Denise wrote:I have a 65% win rate at trips and a 58% win rate at 4 player dubs with those settings. I enjoy your preferred settings on simple maps and have played quite a lot of them though not as a steady diet, as you have.
In my opinion, a more aggressive way of playing is the answer. The early luck of the opposition requires more aggression to overcome in dubs than it does in trips or quads. Dubs is more luck based so of course the meticulous, cautious process that is sometimes so effective in trips and quads at overcoming deficits doesn't always pan out in dubs as well as it should. If dubs is more luck dependent then it makes sense to rely more on luck and throw caution to the wind more often that one would in trips or quads games.
Setting up a play must be done faster also, since there are less players to use in doing so. I've thought about this before and I've always thought that being as successful at dubs as I can takes a bit more aggression, so I think that is the main difference. At least that's how I see it.
Thanks for the comment, Denise.
Your argument does make sense to me. I am a fairly defensive trips player, I do tend to build my position over a couple of rounds, I detest leaving an open 1 that might get hit.
I know that a 45% win rate suggests an error of thinking on my part, either because of map selection or base strategy. I refuse to accept the 'those settings are just luck' argument.
If I look at what I almost never do; such as throw 6 on 3 from the first move, or what I certainly prefer to do; like throw an 11 on the second move, or what I sometimes do on a first move; have one 4 on 3 shot and send the other 2 for a stack and fort, then your ideas about being more aggressive does indeed make me think.
Generally, I suspect the issue is that my team strategy has been developed on such a narrow form (I mean I'd rather die then even play flat!) that everything comes unstuck with a change from trips to dubs even with the same settings. Well not completely unstuck - I am averaging around 50% these days - but still not good enough.
That we have the same trips percentage on those settings but your dubs percentage is a full 13% higher is more than suggestive, and I take your point about being more aggressive on round 1 very seriously.