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Postby Jack0827 on Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:41 pm

hear is a link that preaty well describes the battle in most of its stages.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Gettysburg
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Postby sully800 on Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:42 pm

KEYOGI wrote:Back on topic.

After a quick bit of research I think Gettysburg could work quite well. Some things to consider though. The map's I've looked at are all quite tall, so it may have to be rotated to make it playable without having to scroll. I was also wondering if we could do away with traditional continents and offer bonuses for holding strongpoints such as McPherson Ridge, Big Round Top, etc. I think it would be nice to give it that real battlefield feel, rather than fighting over continents. Just something to consider.


Rotating the map won't be a big deal, as most people won't know what the area looks like anyway (so nothing will seem out of wack). Just indicate North properly and it will be fine.

As for giving bonuses for the territories instead of continents- It makes sense from the battlefield perspective, but I don't know how well it will work for a CC map. After all, someone will begin each game controlling those territories, through no skill of their own...so starting with bonuses could mess up the games.

Perhaps you should just make the key battle points powerful by their position on the map- Big and Little Round Top could attack many countries through one way borders and only a few countries could attack them. That could make it worthwhile to hold the key areas without specifically giving them a bonus.
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Postby Jack0827 on Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:47 pm

sully800 wrote:
KEYOGI wrote:Back on topic.

After a quick bit of research I think Gettysburg could work quite well. Some things to consider though. The map's I've looked at are all quite tall, so it may have to be rotated to make it playable without having to scroll. I was also wondering if we could do away with traditional continents and offer bonuses for holding strongpoints such as McPherson Ridge, Big Round Top, etc. I think it would be nice to give it that real battlefield feel, rather than fighting over continents. Just something to consider.


Rotating the map won't be a big deal, as most people won't know what the area looks like anyway (so nothing will seem out of wack). Just indicate North properly and it will be fine.

As for giving bonuses for the territories instead of continents- It makes sense from the battlefield perspective, but I don't know how well it will work for a CC map. After all, someone will begin each game controlling those territories, through no skill of their own...so starting with bonuses could mess up the games.

Perhaps you should just make the key battle points powerful by their position on the map- Big and Little Round Top could attack many countries through one way borders and only a few countries could attack them. That could make it worthwhile to hold the key areas without specifically giving them a bonus.


I agree a little with both perspectives so maby some sort of compromise. the battle was almost completly about getting the best positoins. the main strongholds would need to be ridges with lesser hills also playing a part. while the valley in betwean would be almot imposible to hold and would always change sides
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Postby Luke035 on Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:40 pm

I love this idea. My wife and I went to Gettysburg on our honeymoon. This might just be the pitch I can throw to get her involved in CC and not grumble whenever she sees me sit down to my computer desk and call up my latest games in progress.
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Postby Unit_2 on Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:08 am

Luke035 wrote:I love this idea. My wife and I went to Gettysburg on our honeymoon. This might just be the pitch I can throw to get her involved in CC and not grumble whenever she sees me sit down to my computer desk and call up my latest games in progress.


i'd love to see that you and your wife would play. so, i think me and KEYOGI will work on this a bit. so keep posting what you think is best so we can make it Right.
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Postby cairnswk on Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:11 pm

Unit 2...hi....Keyogi dropped by and kinda suggested that I might lilke to have a look at Ghettysburgh with U.
I'll have a look over the weekend...if you're OK with that....and put some basic ideas on a map...i have good Fireworks skills, please refer my maps in current development as per my signature block.
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Postby KEYOGI on Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:52 pm

Sorry cairnswk, that was actually directed at DiM but if anyone is willing to help Unit_2 then I'm sure it'll be appreciated. I haven't started work on this project yet, let alone fully commit to it, so if there's some enthusiastic cartographers itching to be involved in another map then it's okay by me, but Unit_2 will have to approve, it's his project. :wink:

I'm sure there's someone who could produce this thing quicker than I could. I have enough things on my plate, this could take me months.
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Postby Unit_2 on Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:40 pm

ok, i will let someone help me, but i need to know who they are and know them first. before i accept him/her.

and i am going to get a base of it , ASAP
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Postby KEYOGI on Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:08 pm

Well, both DiM and cairnswk are decent cartographers from what I have seen. They can both create nice looking maps and both listen to what the foundry has to say.

I'll still have input, just like any other map, but if you want to get this moving anytime soon, I recommend one of the above guys to help you out. 8)
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Postby Unit_2 on Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:16 pm

tho can you help me get a map KEYODI
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Postby KEYOGI on Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:50 am

Here's some maps for you to work from:
http://www.gettysburgphotographs.com/index2.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Gettysburg
http://www.brotherswar.com/Gettysburg_Map.jpg

I think the important thing would be to try and represent the ridges and hills well since they offer significant strategic value.
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Postby cairnswk on Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:15 am

Keyogi & Unit_2
Sorry i misinterpreted the call for assistance. I withdraw my offer of do-ing the map help this weekend and am happy that if Unit_2 wants asssitance, the offer assistance still applies. No hard feelings.
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Postby TheHappyJ on Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:09 pm

OK... I am pretty darned new to CC, but my friends and I fussed with variant Risk maps on paper before I found this site. I have made a Gettysburg map for miniatures wargaming... would this be helpful? I am NOT computer savvy, but have some mapping skills via being an RPG DM... My wife is currently working on her US History master's with a Civil War focus. Somewhere in all of that I would hope I could be helpful, but I'm not sure, as this is the first day I've even looked at a thread. I would love to see a battlefield of Gettysburg, though. Is there a space for me in the project?
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Postby Unit_2 on Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:36 am

ok everyone, i am re-opening this up, please ignore all the stuff said before as thsi s a new start, here is the basic map, please tell me what you think needs added to make it playable, i.e. territorys, conts. bonuses, Etc.

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Postby Unit_2 on Tue Sep 18, 2007 6:02 pm

no one likes the idea/conncept?
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Postby edbeard on Tue Sep 18, 2007 6:08 pm

Idea is good, but you haven't given us anything to comment on really. Without an actual map with territories and continents, you won't get much if any support.

I know you have a few ideas/maps going, but I'd say concentrate on one of them.
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