Easter Rising - Ireland [Cancelled]

by **RobinJ** on Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:22 pm

You do all realise that the republicans were a bunch of cunts that day? British AND Irish were both fighting in France and a few wankors decided to stab them in the back. Deserved everything they got - no romantacism about them at all

by **gdeangel** on Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:58 pm

RobinJ - Does that mean your signing on for unionist side?

I'd have started the thread with a more circumspect quotation, but then you've got to admit the republicans were better (or at least more prolific) song writiers!

by **wicked** on Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:11 pm

Keep it about the tourney guys, nothing else.

by **hulmey** on Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:20 pm

How can you have a racist tourney!!!!

by **hulmey** on Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:23 pm

this is a fucking disgrace of a tourney!! Can the mods please ban this tournie or get the maker to name it more approriately...

Ps....You were quick enough to lock down rebelman's thread and continue to let this piece of shit stain commentrating blood shed and terroism....

Shame on you Conquer Club

by **wicked** on Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:27 pm

This is a part of history and a re-enactment of such. This issue was settled and agreed to by both sides in 1921 and Britain and Ireland have lived peacefully ever since (and I'm not talking about Northern Ireland, as that has nothing to do with this historical event). You can't really call it racist because the tourney organizer isn't saying "Irish are better" or vice versa; he's saying, you can pick either side, just like any other tourney. This tourney isn't an insult to either side, it's just a re-enactment of history.

by **hulmey** on Sun Mar 09, 2008 7:27 am

You can't really call it racist because the tourney organizer isn't saying "Irish are better" or vice versa;

Well read the poem or arent you any good at translating poetry.

by **wicked** on Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:40 pm

It's a song hulmey. A historical one at that. Your disdain for the tournament is noted. You are not required to play in it. But it'll stay open for those who do want to play in it.

by **vampir2124** on Sun Mar 09, 2008 7:43 pm

ill be a unionist seen as there arent so many...

by **gdeangel** on Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:34 pm

Humley - Just so you know, this tournament was launched without any lyric and less character, and nobody signed up. Would you like to pay attention to facts? The dates of St. Patrick day, etc. just fit well. The main thing is to play a tourney on Ireland with the opportunity for shifting match strategies (i.e., along the lines of coordinated callouts).

To show my sincerity, I'll be playing unionist. If you want to sign up, go ahead and be by guest... since you apparently have identified a "terrorist" strategy that fits this tourney (sorry, I'm only a minor student of game theory - and I don't see it) please share your expertise by showing us how well you can do with it in the game play.

PS - thanks for the free bump and nice avatar!

by **Rallyraider** on Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:28 am

i'll take something

by **hulmey** on Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:23 am

LOL............................

Whats his face gets a warning for being racist and this Tournament is about to continue. Wow....

Maybe i should start a Tournament Called 9/11 - The Fall of the Twin Towers.......

Ps...I do like the way you have formatted this Tournament but i just think the name and its meaning is in appropriate

by **KoE_Sirius** on Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:51 am

wicked wrote:This is a part of history and a re-enactment of such. This issue was settled and agreed to by both sides in 1921 and Britain and Ireland have lived peacefully ever since (and I'm not talking about Northern Ireland, as that has nothing to do with this historical event). You can't really call it racist because the tourney organizer isn't saying "Irish are better" or vice versa; he's saying, you can pick either side, just like any other tourney. This tourney isn't an insult to either side, it's just a re-enactment of history.

Peacefully? You haven't read Michael Collins then?
This tourney should be banned.He is deliberately flouting peoples ignorance.

by **hulmey** on Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:52 am

Quite agree Sirius...........Although we all know that the Irish brain washed the rest of the world (mainly americans) into believing their cause (terroism) is just!!

Now can we please ban this tournie.

by **Optimus Prime** on Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:30 pm

It's not going to get banned. So, it isn't going to do you any good to keep asking for it to be.

If you don't want to participate, move along and make a thread debating the topic in flame wars or something.

Regards, Optimus Prime

by **hulmey** on Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:40 am

I wont make a thread in Flame Wars. Coz this is not a Flame!!! this is a highly senstive topic to many British people. Doesnt look like its getting much interest anyways.

by **amazzony** on Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:56 am

Why don't you leave this tournament alone??? Or if you are in your crusade of justice then why don't you ask all tournaments about WWII banned because a lot of innocent people died and got hurt in that war? Or why aren't you protesting against Soviet Union or WWII maps? For many nations, these wars and that time of period are bringing up horrible memories about their people and history.

It's clear that idiots only protest a tournament... This is what it is - just a tournament. Not meant to be against anybody or anything. Just a story to support games.

Grow up, people.

I hope you get it running, gdeangel

by **Steelhorse** on Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:40 am

I have followed this thread for almost a week now. I haven't posted in it because I wanted to see where it would go and I wanted to give it some thought.

To me, the most important thing is the intent of the tourney. I don't believe the theme of the tournament is to celebrate the final outcome of history, but merely to reenact the factual, historical events as they ultimately unfolded.

If I thought that anyone were trying to gloat, make fun of a person(s), or rub noses in another's demise, through the use of a tournament, I would have shut it down long ago. I honestly don't believe that is the case here.

Hulmey, you are a valued member of CC and your opinions are as equally considered and weighed as any other member.

But, we can not rewrite history, or it's outcome, as painful as it may be at times.

In the grand scheme of things, this is just a game. Whether this tournament runs or doesn't will change nothing that happened in the past. It's intent is not to offend, but merely to entertain. No more, no less. Therefore, I believe the tournament will be allowed to run.

by **hulmey** on Sat Mar 15, 2008 4:47 am

amazzony wrote:Why don't you leave this tournament alone??? Or if you are in your crusade of justice then why don't you ask all tournaments about WWII banned because a lot of innocent people died and got hurt in that war? Or why aren't you protesting against Soviet Union or WWII maps? For many nations, these wars and that time of period are bringing up horrible memories about their people and history.

It's clear that idiots only protest a tournament... This is what it is - just a tournament. Not meant to be against anybody or anything. Just a story to support games.

Grow up, people.

I hope you get it running, gdeangel

I highly doubt that you can compare the Easter Uprising's and/or Bloody Sunday with World War 2 and so on!! Micheal Collins and his gang were terroists. How you can glorify loyalists and republicans who have car bombed, shot and totured many innocent civilian's over a certain amount of time is just not right!

Conquer Club are allowing this Tournament to progress and thats there preogative. I shall post no more on the Topic

by **gdeangel** on Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:15 pm

Well - time to call it. We haven't gotten the number of signup's I had hoped for. I am calling off the tournament since five people one each side with four challenges is basically not very much of a strategic challenge.

As to the detractors of this tournament, I think you might want to look back into the history of the Easter Rebellion, with has been regarded by many as pre-dating the later tactics of the IRA that involved "terrorist" tactics. The even was something of a coordinated, although clandestinely planned, uprising targetting the establishment of a politically autonomous foothold. Was it a dishonorable tactic given the context of the engagement of the Empire on the continent a la World War I? Perhaps. Yet some have suggested that the heavy handed response against the Republicans in the wake of the rebellion in fact resulted in them going underground to subsequently engage in the tactics you seem to be addressing your remarks to.

At the same time, I would point out that the Easter rising was a specific event in history that happened over 90 years ago. Put in context, people who lost family in the Civil War aren't out there flaming the fact that there is a Civil War map, even though there was plenty of bushwacking, kidnapping of freemen, etc. The reason is that it's history, beyond living generational memory. If you disagree, I think we can agree that its a question of context and leave it at that. Since almost 50% or more of the people signing up here has no preference for which side they fought on, I'd say there is a sizable group here that shares the contextual perspective in which this tournament was conceived.

That is it... there is nothing more to it.

Easter Rising - Ireland [Cancelled]

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