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Postby heavycola on Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:01 am

jay_a2j wrote:
Norse wrote:I'll be honest here, that wasn't one of the "rockefeller's" in that picture, the americo is made up, and them quotes were falsified.

I'm ashamed that anyone who I would have thought would see through this is absolute falsified nonsense, so as to to discredit any truth in other video's, did not see this.



Did you see the Lou Dobbs segment on ABC about the NAU? Wow, the "made up" , "falsified" stuff made it all the way to prime time television! :roll:


Yeah, the Amero is made up!


A quote from the site you linked to : "These private-issue fantasy pattern coins will be struck as an annual series, starting in the latter part of 2007."


i think 'fantasy' is the operative word here.
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Postby Jehan on Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:02 am

Dancing Mustard wrote:My father was unwise enough to leave the liquor cabinet unlocked.


most unwise, anywho, Asian union = not going to happen, china dislikes Japan, south Korea dislikes Japan and china, wait, they all dislike each other, so what would lead to the formation of an Asian union?
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Postby static_ice on Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:17 am

Jehan wrote:
Dancing Mustard wrote:My father was unwise enough to leave the liquor cabinet unlocked.


most unwise, anywho, Asian union = not going to happen, china dislikes Japan, south Korea dislikes Japan and china, wait, they all dislike each other, so what would lead to the formation of an Asian union?


maybe north korea and china, two of the strongest asian countries, will join and overpower the rest?
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Re: THIS IS A MUST WATCH!!!!!!!!

Postby heavycola on Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:44 am

jay_a2j wrote:Just humor me. Watch this video to its completion. Please.



WATCH ME


For some reason its not working. Log into youtube and look for this (NORTH AMERICAN UNION & VCHIP TRUTH) video. I'm telling you...if this doesn't wake you up nothing will.


OK, I humoured you.

Jay/xtra - do you believe anything these days? As long as it's fed to you by a serious-sounding narrator with a creepy soundtrack to underline how deadly serious the truth really is?

Did you seriously not question anything about this film?

I had a few Qs:
Why did the fat rockefeller dude tell a journalist his entire world government plans months beforehand? is he even a rockefeller?
Why did the film present the fat rockefeller dude's quotes in dorect speech, when we could HEAR that they were being reported indirectly? And, apparently, 8 years after they were supposedly spoken! That is, at best, incredibly sloppy and unprofessional reportage. At best. Any professional journalist trying that would be fired, because it is misleading and mendacious.
And why did this journalist not share his revelations with anyone until years after 9/11? Do you think the journalist might have had any self-serving motives at all?
Who is this journalist and what are his credentials?
Come to think of it, who is the narrator and why does he get your instant, unblinking trust? What are his credentials?
How are they going to sneak a new currency past half a billion people? Why the secrecy?
How are they going to implant chips into half a billion people?
Plenty have talked about world government over the years - is this film really using a couple of public-realm speeches (note: made in the senate, not in some secret illuminati backroom) as proof that this conpsiracy has been going since then?
Is the EU actually borderless, as they offhandedly claim halfway through? (hint: no)

I am tired of typing now. I don't expect answers, but it staggers me that you just buy into this stuff without a thought for where it came from, and that the people presenting it to you win your trust unthinkingly. It's extraordinary.
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Re: THIS IS A MUST WATCH!!!!!!!!

Postby jay_a2j on Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:47 am

heavycola wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Just humor me. Watch this video to its completion. Please.



WATCH ME


For some reason its not working. Log into youtube and look for this (NORTH AMERICAN UNION & VCHIP TRUTH) video. I'm telling you...if this doesn't wake you up nothing will.


OK, I humoured you.

Jay/xtra - do you believe anything these days? As long as it's fed to you by a serious-sounding narrator with a creepy soundtrack to underline how deadly serious the truth really is?

Did you seriously not question anything about this film?

I had a few Qs:
Why did the fat rockefeller dude tell a journalist his entire world government plans months beforehand? is he even a rockefeller?
Why did the film present the fat rockefeller dude's quotes in dorect speech, when we could HEAR that they were being reported indirectly? And, apparently, 8 years after they were supposedly spoken! That is, at best, incredibly sloppy and unprofessional reportage. At best. Any professional journalist trying that would be fired, because it is misleading and mendacious.
And why did this journalist not share his revelations with anyone until years after 9/11? Do you think the journalist might have had any self-serving motives at all?
Who is this journalist and what are his credentials?
Come to think of it, who is the narrator and why does he get your instant, unblinking trust? What are his credentials?
How are they going to sneak a new currency past half a billion people? Why the secrecy?
How are they going to implant chips into half a billion people?
Plenty have talked about world government over the years - is this film really using a couple of public-realm speeches (note: made in the senate, not in some secret illuminati backroom) as proof that this conpsiracy has been going since then?
Is the EU actually borderless, as they offhandedly claim halfway through? (hint: no)

I am tired of typing now. I don't expect answers, but it staggers me that you just buy into this stuff without a thought for where it came from, and that the people presenting it to you win your trust unthinkingly. It's extraordinary.



Because they had become friends.

Because maybe they though some deaf people would watch the video?

First of all, he probably didn't believe him, then after 911 happened and Afghan./Iraq were invaded he realized it was true. Didn't say anything out of fear afterwords.

It won't we sneaked but welcomed.

It will start with a national ID card, then later (to make life easier) a mark will be required.
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Re: THIS IS A MUST WATCH!!!!!!!!

Postby heavycola on Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:24 am

jay_a2j wrote:
heavycola wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Just humor me. Watch this video to its completion. Please.



WATCH ME


For some reason its not working. Log into youtube and look for this (NORTH AMERICAN UNION & VCHIP TRUTH) video. I'm telling you...if this doesn't wake you up nothing will.


OK, I humoured you.

Jay/xtra - do you believe anything these days? As long as it's fed to you by a serious-sounding narrator with a creepy soundtrack to underline how deadly serious the truth really is?

Did you seriously not question anything about this film?

I had a few Qs:
Why did the fat rockefeller dude tell a journalist his entire world government plans months beforehand? is he even a rockefeller?
Why did the film present the fat rockefeller dude's quotes in dorect speech, when we could HEAR that they were being reported indirectly? And, apparently, 8 years after they were supposedly spoken! That is, at best, incredibly sloppy and unprofessional reportage. At best. Any professional journalist trying that would be fired, because it is misleading and mendacious.
And why did this journalist not share his revelations with anyone until years after 9/11? Do you think the journalist might have had any self-serving motives at all?
Who is this journalist and what are his credentials?
Come to think of it, who is the narrator and why does he get your instant, unblinking trust? What are his credentials?
How are they going to sneak a new currency past half a billion people? Why the secrecy?
How are they going to implant chips into half a billion people?
Plenty have talked about world government over the years - is this film really using a couple of public-realm speeches (note: made in the senate, not in some secret illuminati backroom) as proof that this conpsiracy has been going since then?
Is the EU actually borderless, as they offhandedly claim halfway through? (hint: no)

I am tired of typing now. I don't expect answers, but it staggers me that you just buy into this stuff without a thought for where it came from, and that the people presenting it to you win your trust unthinkingly. It's extraordinary.



Because they had become friends.

Because maybe they though some deaf people would watch the video?

First of all, he probably didn't believe him, then after 911 happened and Afghan./Iraq were invaded he realized it was true. Didn't say anything out of fear afterwords.

It won't we sneaked but welcomed.

It will start with a national ID card, then later (to make life easier) a mark will be required.


deaf people use subtitles, jay. And if you can't see the difference between direct and indirect speech, then let's move on.

More importantly by far is why you trust the narrator and this journalist so unquestioningly. I think that is worrying.
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Re: THIS IS A MUST WATCH!!!!!!!!

Postby Backglass on Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:43 am

jay_a2j wrote:It will start with a national ID card, then later (to make life easier) a mark will be required.


This whole "mark of the beast" mythology cracks me up.

Jay: Why is it that the concept of a FUTURE monetary system is instantly considered demonic by you, yet people young and old are getting tatoos in droves and "marking" themselves TODAY, and you say nothing?
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Postby Skittles! on Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:13 am

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jay_a2j wrote:It will start with a national ID card, then later (to make life easier) a mark will be required.


This whole "mark of the beast" mythology cracks me up.

Jay: Why is it that the concept of a FUTURE monetary system is instantly considered demonic by you, yet people young and old are getting tatoos in droves and "marking" themselves TODAY, and you say nothing?

Because, Backglass, we're talking about the GOVERNMENT (!!!), not some random tattoo artists!

Jeez! And I thought you were smarter than that. Shame on you, shame.
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Re: THIS IS A MUST WATCH!!!!!!!!

Postby jay_a2j on Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:21 am

Backglass wrote:Jay: Why is it that the concept of a FUTURE monetary system is instantly considered demonic by you, yet people young and old are getting tatoos in droves and "marking" themselves TODAY, and you say nothing?




Because if the "mark" mentioned in the book of Revelation is the same mark for the National ID... It will also consist of renouncing Christ as the Son of God... and will be a one-way ticket to separation from God in the next life.
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Postby Neutrino on Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:45 am

jay_a2j wrote:
Because if the "mark" mentioned in the book of Revelation is the same mark for the National ID... It will also consist of renouncing Christ as the Son of God... and will be a one-way ticket to separation from God in the next life.


Wait, wait, wait...

Not only is the government composed entirely of insane megalomaniacs who wish to rule the known universe with an iron hand, they also want to convert the entire population of said universe into devil worshipers? :shock:
When will their evil end!?!?

Pray tell, are there aliens involved too? Do they kidnap good, god-fearing Americans and experiment on them until they are transformed into soldiers for the Devil (as part of their evil pact with THE GOVERNMENT)?

Jay, lay off the drugs. Seriously. They seem to have eroded what remained of your common sence and replaced it with some strange mishmash of various conspiracy theories.
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Postby Dancing Mustard on Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:51 am

Sorry to side-track a teeny-tiny bit, after all the GOVERNMENT OF EVIL is a very serious (and definitely not made up) business. But has anybody seen Napoleon Ier since his last post in this thread? Or has he disappeared completely?
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Postby heavycola on Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:56 am

Dancing Mustard wrote:Sorry to side-track a teeny-tiny bit, after all the GOVERNMENT OF EVIL is a very serious (and definitely not made up) business. But has anybody seen Napoleon Ier since his last post in this thread? Or has he disappeared completely?


Please move along. Return to your television sets and your puppet goverments. There is nothing to see here.

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Postby 2dimes on Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:33 am

page 2 Guiscard wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:One world government is the final step. We all would gain a borderless society much like the EU. Same currency (Amero). We would lose much more..... our sovernty and our freedom.


Err... we have borders... Hate to burst your bubble, Jay, but you can't just wander across Europe passportless and unmolested.


page 3 Guiscard wrote:
Napoleon Ier wrote:no seriously, the Eu is all about no borders. You can travel across passportless, just Britain is an exception thanks to good slippery negotiation (all credit to you)


I know it is, and I think thats an improvement... I'm just pointing out the realities of the current situation to Jay.
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Postby riggable on Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:36 am

I don't believe that the rockefellers actually make the money for the U.S. government. Someone please prove this either way.
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Postby mr. incrediball on Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:38 am

i've watched a minute and 15 seconds so far. is the whole thing about the north american union?

because if so i don't give a rat's ass
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Postby 2dimes on Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:50 am

I watched Jay, there's some things in there that seem legit. Some of it is rather chicken littleish.

Someone has called the chip the RFID 666, that seems like missleading information to scare people.

I'm not seeing anything creadable enough from anywhere to make a solid case for this being the mark of the beast directly. I realise however it's most certainly something to keep up on and be aware of.

Norse mentioned they can't turn the chip off. I agree but I think the film is trying to make the statement that your banking can be cancelled at any moment. Just as a credit card is now. When your card is turned down for a purchase it's not the card that is changed but the account attached to it.

riggable wrote:I don't believe that the rockefellers actually make the money for the U.S. government. Someone please prove this either way.

It's not them it was the Rothchilds, and they don't print or make the money.

I don't have any evidence but don't find it difficult to believe that the banking system is allowed to set how much currency is available.

The way I've heard the story is that the federal reserve used to have to hold a certain amount of physical gold to back the US currency and that was changed.
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Postby Guiscard on Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:53 am

2dimes wrote:
page 2 Guiscard wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:One world government is the final step. We all would gain a borderless society much like the EU. Same currency (Amero). We would lose much more..... our sovernty and our freedom.


Err... we have borders... Hate to burst your bubble, Jay, but you can't just wander across Europe passportless and unmolested.


page 3 Guiscard wrote:
Napoleon Ier wrote:no seriously, the Eu is all about no borders. You can travel across passportless, just Britain is an exception thanks to good slippery negotiation (all credit to you)


I know it is, and I think thats an improvement... I'm just pointing out the realities of the current situation to Jay.


'I took EU is all about no borders' to mean that is their aim. I agree with that. It would be an improvement. What it is not, however, is the current state of affairs.

I think the current border system is a little ridiculous. But both my statements stand. You need a passport now, but I'd rather not need one.
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Postby 2dimes on Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:55 am

What border in the EU do you need a passport to cross?
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Postby Guiscard on Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:55 am

2dimes wrote:What border in the EU do you need a passport to cross?


Our border.
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Postby 2dimes on Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:56 am

Guiscard wrote:
2dimes wrote:What border in the EU do you need a passport to cross?


Our border.
What border is "Our Border"?
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Postby cena-rules on Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:57 am

I didnt watch it therefore it is not a must watch so you lied
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Postby 2dimes on Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:58 am

Guiscard wrote:
2dimes wrote:What border in the EU do you need a passport to cross?


Our border.
Canada is not part of the EU so obviously you need a passport to enter the EU from here.
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Postby Guiscard on Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:59 am

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Guiscard wrote:
2dimes wrote:What border in the EU do you need a passport to cross?


Our border.
What border is "Our Border"?


Which country do I come from, 2dimes... see if you can do a little detective work...

And further to that, I've traveled fairly extensively in Europe - France, Spain, Italy, Germany, Poland, Greece, Netherlands, Belgium, Portugal - for every one of those places I have required a passport when entering the country.
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Postby 2dimes on Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:11 pm

Guiscard wrote:
2dimes wrote:
Guiscard wrote:
2dimes wrote:What border in the EU do you need a passport to cross?


Our border.
What border is "Our Border"?


Which country do I come from, 2dimes... see if you can do a little detective work...

And further to that, I've traveled fairly extensively in Europe - France, Spain, Italy, Germany, Poland, Greece, Netherlands, Belgium, Portugal - for every one of those places I have required a passport when entering the country.
Gotcha, I need a passport to enter England from Canada. I coverd that.

What I was not aware of is that England is EU and hence adopted the euro. Sorry I have not been there since 2005 when they were not.

At that time I cleared EU costums with my trusty Canuck passport entering France at Frankfurt Germany Image, then could have mailed my passport home if I was not going to two non EU countries on the way back.

Let me state that a little more clearly, I did not need a passport to fly from Frankfurt to Tolouse. I did indeed need a passport to exit the EU and enter the UK.

What EU border was that we're talking about again?
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Postby cena-rules on Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:12 pm

England has not adopted the euro
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