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Postby Gnome on Sun Nov 11, 2007 7:50 am

Belgium

So this is Belgium as it is now, 10provinces and 1 capital province (brussel)
Every capital is divided in 'arrondissementen' (don't know how to translate)

that makes it 42 territorys and 11 continents.

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Let me know what you think
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Postby cairnswk on Sun Nov 11, 2007 7:59 am

Nice start gnome...i like the colours and the layout...not so keen on the legend, needs some work as it is too transparent for me...but nice work!
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Postby Gnome on Sun Nov 11, 2007 8:09 am

ya I can see where it went wrong, I putted the background layers on top of the legend...that will get fixed in the next version :wink:
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Postby serious_conq on Sun Nov 11, 2007 8:33 am

you mean you put them on top of the legend... go study your verbs lol.

I guess cairnswk is quite right, but I have another remark: why did you make 2 continents consisting of 1 country giving 1 and 2 army bonusses? It seems unfair to me, that when you start and you got Nijvel, you're doomed to win the game...

I think at that point the map is a bit too easy. You could better split it up. If you make it a 2 or a 3 bonus, either way is fine to me. It's just that you are far to lucky in deployments if you got that one.

Or you need to program it to a neutral all games, a solution too. But this way it doesn't work for me.
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Postby Gnome on Sun Nov 11, 2007 8:56 am

serious_conq wrote:you mean you put them on top of the legend... go study your verbs lol.

I guess cairnswk is quite right, but I have another remark: why did you make 2 continents consisting of 1 country giving 1 and 2 army bonuses? It seems unfair to me, that when you start and you got Nijvel, you're doomed to win the game...

I think at that point the map is a bit too easy. You could better split it up. If you make it a 2 or a 3 bonus, either way is fine to me. It's just that you are far to lucky in deployments if you got that one.

Or you need to program it to a neutral all games, a solution too. But this way it doesn't work for me.


ya I'm still looking for the right bonuses, I just added them as an example, maybe I should make it 'vlaams brabant+waals brabant' bonus +4 and 'waals' brabant on it's own +1
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Postby onbekende on Sun Nov 11, 2007 9:22 am

I cal dips on bonus calculations

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Postby Mr_Niels on Sun Nov 11, 2007 10:05 am

i have to say, i love you gnome!
i live in belgium.. and i think its fantastic you are trying to make this map.

if you want some help i can always help you..

i think brugge isnt right, i think brugge lies where ieper is now on your map
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Postby Gnome on Sun Nov 11, 2007 10:18 am

Mr_Niels wrote:i think brugge isnt right, i think brugge lies where ieper is now on your map


Well I got everything from my own atlas and from wikipedia so I'm pretty sure everything is right...I tried to do everything as accurate as possible.

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details: switched layers to make legend readable
and changed waals brabant's bonus
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I think I need some more impassable borders to make the gameplay better,
anyone suggestions about these?
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Postby firstholliday on Sun Nov 11, 2007 11:24 am

a lot of continents....
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Postby Gnome on Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:07 pm

firstholliday wrote:a lot of continents....

your point being?
A lot of people like to have quick bonuses so I don't think this is a problem
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Postby onbekende on Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:54 pm

Mr_Niels wrote:i have to say, i love you gnome!
i live in belgium.. and i think its fantastic you are trying to make this map.

if you want some help i can always help you..

i think brugge isnt right, i think brugge lies where ieper is now on your map
I sorry I will have to say this but

how old are you?
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Postby mibi on Sun Nov 11, 2007 1:41 pm

I accidentally ad blocked map image, can you link it for me.
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Postby RjBeals on Sun Nov 11, 2007 1:50 pm

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You're map is GREAT!

Postby MarVal on Sun Nov 11, 2007 2:18 pm

Hello Gnome,

Just as I was telling in earlier contact, you're map is GREAT! I like the style, backgrounds, colors, textures and borderlines. Also the images of "Manneken Pis" and "het Atomium". The legend with no "backgroundtable", I love it as it is transparent. Nice and original look.

About the gameplay. You can i.e. place impassible borders on Wallonië like some hills on it. That area has a lot of hills, so you can take them and make some borders impassible.

Some suggestions of mine:

1. Is it possible to make Halle-Vilvoorde, Leuven and Nijvel one continent and called it i.e. Vlaams-Waals Brabant? I like the bonus of Brussel.

2. About the names of the area of Wallonië (South-Belgium for those who don't know where Wallonië lies or see the map of BeNeLux ;-) ). Its a French Language area, so why aren't you put the French names on it?

But what I say in my first lines, I loved your map. With your Belgium map it makes the Low Lands area complete with the BeNeLux map already playable and the Netherlands in Final Forge. Its just waiting who will make the Luxembourgh map :-)

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Postby Chirondom on Sun Nov 11, 2007 2:20 pm

serious_conq wrote:you mean you put them on top of the legend... go study your verbs lol.

I guess cairnswk is quite right, but I have another remark: why did you make 2 continents consisting of 1 country giving 1 and 2 army bonusses? It seems unfair to me, that when you start and you got Nijvel, you're doomed to win the game...

I think at that point the map is a bit too easy. You could better split it up. If you make it a 2 or a 3 bonus, either way is fine to me. It's just that you are far to lucky in deployments if you got that one.

Or you need to program it to a neutral all games, a solution too. But this way it doesn't work for me.
Not everyone here has English at a first language. [-X I like the map, though.
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Postby mibi on Sun Nov 11, 2007 3:29 pm

nice start, is luxembourg part of belgium or something?
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Postby Gnome on Sun Nov 11, 2007 4:58 pm

mibi wrote:nice start, is luxembourg part of belgium or something?


Well Mibi, long ago in the middle ages, Belgium was not a country as it is now.
It was divided in earldoms and there was also the earldom of Luxembourg (or something like that)
And that one separated itself from the rest and got independent.
When Belgium was made, it stayed on itself.
And nowadays Dutch people goes to Luxembourg to buy cars etc. because the tax is lower there :wink:

And Belgium also has a province that is called Luxembourg because that province was a part of the earldom but it was conquered by the Spanish along with the rest of Belgium...while a part of the earldom was never taken and stayed independent.

I think it's something like that...maybe there are some mistakes in my story...(actually this history would make a good map :wink: )
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Postby I GOT SERVED on Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:21 pm

Firstly, this is a nice start. In my opinion, this map needs much more impassibles. Other than that, I like the idea of having this many continents.

Keep up the good work!
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Postby MarVal on Sun Nov 11, 2007 6:03 pm

Hello Gnome, what did you think of my suggestions?

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Postby Mr_Niels on Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:12 am

yah.. it could be a bit different but it quite accurate, only 'Nijvel'. we call it Waals-brabant.. dont know how you guys say it in english
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Postby Mr_Niels on Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:17 am

I GOT SERVED wrote:Firstly, this is a nice start. In my opinion, this map needs much more impassibles. Other than that, I like the idea of having this many continents.

Keep up the good work!


maybe the belgian river 'Schelde' who runs trough from antwerp to.. i dont know anymore, i learned this too many years ago.

and the the river 'Maes' who run trough Wallon.

EDIT: i just realised you're from belgium ;) Haha, dan zalt gn probleem zen
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Re: You're map is GREAT!

Postby Gnome on Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:56 am

MarVal wrote:Some suggestions of mine:

1. Is it possible to make Halle-Vilvoorde, Leuven and Nijvel one continent and called it i.e. Vlaams-Waals Brabant? I like the bonus of Brussel.

2. About the names of the area of Wallonië (South-Belgium for those who don't know where Wallonië lies or see the map of BeNeLux ;-) ). Its a French Language area, so why aren't you put the French names on it?


1.It's a good idea...although I like having a lot of continents in the middle, it keeps te fight going...but It won't hurt to take Nijvel to the rest of brabant and just call the continent 'Brabant' :wink:

2.sure no problem, I'll see what it looks like and post you a dutch-french version
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Postby jasnostj on Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:11 am

What if Belgium doesn't survive long enough to take this map through the foundry?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_ ... ion_crisis
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Postby Gnome on Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:37 pm

Belgium will never split...they can't split...The people doesn't want to split, only the government is acting crazy. And I'm sure Belgium is never merging together with the Netherlands...you don't have to believe what wikipedia says...I can also make some stuff like that... :wink:
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Postby Mr_Niels on Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:07 am

i dont know, in a poll, 45 % of the netherlands want to get together with Vlaanderen and call it 'Nevla' :)
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