[Official] HP Mafia - MVP: Aage - Archive

[StorrZerg]

Deal with mets This game. Has a massive hard on when it comes to defending people and giving town reads. His scummy reads tend to be off hand comments about play, while not offering or trying to push harder on his scum target. He isn't asking people inquisitive questions, and his conversation is kept to a minimum, just banter between him and streaker really.

Pressuring mets great.
claim? Not sure. Need others to weigh in.

im going to relook hotshot, I think he has a bigger chance of being scum. More to follow.

Ps.mets call out on Hotshot's "scum read" was weird. Hotshot's case was jut entirely play by play commentary of mets, with a conclusion of "well I guess scum". And mets reaction seemed a bit overly defensive.

[StorrZerg]

@Wing
because that's all he has this gamE. He lacks greatly being more active, he is skating by, pretending to contribute. Tell me his activity is normal for a 2 week day 1. It isn't. Secondly his post don't have many conclusion, many of the people he talks about my reaction is "why did you bother writing nothing "

Then we have the classic case on dazza "he pushed pershy! Pershy was the vig! I just do not agree that dazza had the worst reason.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

I have such thorough problems with how this game is being played.

This was on Wednesday. Nothing changed since.

@Storr - Hotshot makes lists early in most games and he never has strong reads. The reads are weak and non-committal but that's not out of the norm for Hotshot.

I find it amusing how reliant Town are at the moment on the claimed third party. We need Aage back asap, even if we dont know his alignment.

[StorrZerg]

When he is town, imo he has more to say in other posts, and while he is mafia his content is entirely dependent on the posts.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

You're making a meta based argument here which I cannot follow as I have not played in these parts long enough to know the truth. At the end of the day here, you're third party and just want a lynch, I'm not going to follow any meta based argument you make.

[StorrZerg]

You're making a meta based argument here which I cannot follow as I have not played in these parts long enough to know the truth. At the end of the day here, you're third party and just want a lynch, I'm not going to follow any meta based argument you make.

Don't be a dick about this. You are acting like you have read some past games. Cause I know your not referring to active games. So I'm calling you out to make sure your not making crap up.

You have a null read you are arguing and I want you to make a stance on him. So don't you keep throwing the 3rd party shit in my face, I can damn well help keep this game active .

As for needing a lynch. I suppose I need something, but lynching anyone isn't what I need. I need to help drive this game away from "well we didn't get any new claims, so let's lynch storr" so what do I need? A lynch on a scum.

That's what I need, and we'll shit it's what town needs to. Town needs better options on who to lynch, aka scum leaDs. Since lynching me does hurt town, since its one less Person who can vote against mafia. Additionally town is going to miss lynch again. It's a part of the game of mafia.

[strike wolf]

I think the Mets case is likely a waste of time. He seems to be playing to his meta so far and I am not picking up anything particularly scummy from him at the moment. Hotshot is difficult to tell how much might be inactivity but right now I would lean scum on him. The reads post is something he almost always does day 1 or early day 2 and by itself is not indicative of town or scum for him. It is the general lack of contributions that bug me with him.

[Streaker]

Anyone wanna lynch hotshot?

If you wanna win with town, then play town. I know it's what you are doing, but 'more soft then usual'.
Make the actual case on HotShot instead of seeing if it's gonna stick in advance.

When he is town, imo he has more to say in other posts, and while he is mafia his content is entirely dependent on the posts.

The issue I have is you don't start building your case until later... And it's just meta. Not the best route on D2.
Agree on the mets statement regarding HS though.

@Wing
because that's all he has this gamE. He lacks greatly being more active, he is skating by, pretending to contribute. Tell me his activity is normal for a 2 week day 1. It isn't. Secondly his post don't have many conclusion, many of the people he talks about my reaction is "why did you bother writing nothing "

Then we have the classic case on dazza "he pushed pershy! Pershy was the vig! I just do not agree that dazza had the worst reason.

I would have liked it so much better if you'd have started of with this. I will reread HS also, and see what I can come up with. I especially agree with the 'no conclusion'.

Now be it on whoever it is, we need more votes in here. As mets said, you can push a case all day long, in a game this size it's the mob that will decide...

[Talapus]

That's what I need, and we'll shit it's what town needs to. Town needs better options on who to lynch, aka scum leaDs. Since lynching me does hurt town, since its one less Person who can vote against mafia. Additionally town is going to miss lynch again. It's a part of the game of mafia.

Come on storr, there is playing the game and then way over playing your hand. An honestly, you are dancing all over that line right now. As a claimed 3rd party you don't give a damn about town or mafia, you just care about surviving. Don't try saying otherwise.

Secondly, why the hell do you want use focusing on hotshot and then state later that "town" will muslynch again? I assume you mean in general as yes it is bound to happen. But don't post crap about how HS is where we should look and then say we are going to mislynch. Your logic it not impressive right now.

I am however more then willing to look back at all his posts.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Last person to vote gets lynched

[StorrZerg]

@Streaker I'm not allowed to make an actual case. Because to many people don't know how to separate my alignment from the case.

"Your 3rd party you just want a lynch"
"You caused us to lynch the vig instead of you day 1"
"I can't trust you because you're 3rd party"

So yes I'll sling my reads and let others carry a case. You want me to do better on reads, then attack the reads and keep the topic about productive discussion.

@strike I do say otherwise. And I'll say it over and over. I do have a preference for who wins this game. Town. If you want me to play like you think I care, then ill keep my posting to minimal effort to avoid lynching. you should know better that I love scum hunting, Not to mention I've gone on record alot saying I love being vt, I love playing as town.

[strike wolf]

I think you have gotten me mixd up with Talapus.

[StorrZerg]

Meh mixed people up with the @strike. Can ignore the comments pertaining to him.

Fp. Yep

[StorrZerg]

Last person to vote gets lynched

I agree, been a few days, let's see some votes and cases

[Endgame422]

Ill start.
VOTE MUDPUPPY
His logic of trying to get a no lynch just seems like an excuse to get either pershy/deg lynched without having to be responsible when they flipped town.

[Ragian]

Whoa. Tough weekend here ... I am catching up.

But if [charm] was indeed hit with something of a malign character last night, it would suggest that she's town.

I don't think so, given the multitude of likely factions that exist in this game.

Are you saying that it suggests that she's antitown?

I would assume that Minerva had a wand too. I also wonder if mafia kills someone does that mean they have the wand or does the wand disappear/die with the character??

It may be nothing, or something, I don't know and not that it matters since I don't count today! So, don't bother with paying any attention to me if you don't want to.

Quit the cryptographic talk please. Either you have usefull information and you tell us, or you were hit with something you don't want to share and then you shouldn't have brought it up.

You don't count today? Are you hit with a spell that stops you from making reads?

I believe that I have no ability to comment today! Sorry, back at ya on Day 3! Over and out!!

This doesn't make sense. Are you hit with something that prohibits you from stating what you feel about others?

re: dazza, I agree with Stor. Dazza was the first to go for Pershy and he went for him due to inactivity. I don't see the scumminess there.

@endgame, what are your intentions with the vote on MP? Pressure? Claim? Are you basing it only on the fact that he voted Pershy in order to get a stalemate?

[aage]

Alright, I'm back and disappointed.

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I have the feeling I'm more scolding at people instead of playing the game. Storr, I will look into Hotshot's posts in more detail but you don't really seem entirely convinced yourself.

[sempaispellcheck]

I don't care whether mtam is bulletproof - it just bothered me that he didn't answer questions, but I'm seeing now why the questions are not worth answering.

The spell is Expecto Patronum - my Patronus is my second vote.

sempai

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

I have a suspicion that Charm has been hit with a silencing spell and wont be able to provide reads, information or a vote today.

charm wrote:
It may be nothing, or something, I don't know and not that it matters since I don't count today! So, don't bother with paying any attention to me if you don't want to.

I see this as a free pass today, but Charm has a lot of explaining to do D3.

@Rage - What are your intentions with your lack of vote? Pressure? Claim? Are you basing it only on the fact that.. oh wait no there is no vote.

So this was Ragian D1:

Alright, so that definitely tells us something. Of the people voting sempai, I feel that charm's vote and Pix's vote were the scummiest to me. Having played a few games with Pix, however, I'm not surprised that he skimmed sempai's soft claim (or whatever it's called). Charm, on the other hand, limps in after having received flack for trying to read the setup D1 and after momentum has started to build on sempai saying that she forgot to vote for him the night before.

That adds up in my book.

vote charm

Also, I'd like to add that I'm going boozing tomorrow. I hope the weekends are slower post-wise.

Ok, so D1 this was vaguely an acceptable reason to vote. Charm didnt really back up her vote on Sempai and sheeped. But come D2 why is Ragian still continuing to push exclusively on the same person he has pushed all game with no additional information added? This is whats been bothering me about Rage. There is nothing outside of focus on Charm for mild misdemeanors. I agree that Charm has not been particularly helpful so far, and could be mafia, but thats not a reason to focus. This is all made worse by the, "Pix has been just as bad, but I dont want him lynched" section. There is little difference between the two players in terms of experience.

@Aage - I didnt mean babysitter, I just meant someone who would actually put effort into their posts. I've spent far too much time chatting to Storr. He'll be nightkilled by Mafia before too long if no town players actually offer anything.

[HotShot53]

To storr: what day 1/2 have I been very active in, if I'm not part of a back-and-forth discussion on a case, either one I'm on or one against me? Day 1 I tried to start a case on charm, but not many others joined it and charm didn't post much do defend herself, so there wasn't much to post about. Otherwise, I commented on the cases as they were occurring, as I always do. I don't make posts if I have nothing important to add just for the sake of making posts. So far on day 2 not much has been going on except the people jumping on you and mtam again, which as I had previously posted was not smart to do, So with nothing else to go on, I looked at the most likely places for scum (on the pershy mislynch and the deg almost lynch), since I didn't have time to look at everyone in depth. Out of that, there are a few people I found more scummy and would be willing to join cases on them.

For dazza, I'm not voting him for the inactive pressure, but because that's the only case he's tried to start, otherwise he was just bandwagoning votes. If someone is scum and wanting to start a case to appear towny, starting one on an inactive is as easy as it gets, so he doesn't get towny points from me for that.

I get the feeling storr started the "case" on me just to see what others would say/see how I would respond, not because he actually thinks I am scum, especially since he voted for one of my cases rather than for me lol.

[dd515087]

If mafia or town is dumb enough to just sit back and watch it unfold then they too are throwing their fates into the wind. So not really a safe way to play in my mind. But in the same regard it makes it damn near impossible looking at the wagons at the end of day 1 to really determine who is the most suspicious.

Well a major part of the problem was the timing. I didn't check the thread at all between the time when degaston had the most votes, and the deadline. (Though I was on vacation and in a different time zone from usual, for what it's worth.) I'm sure I wasn't the only one.

Read as - "I dont care who mafia are, but you can be sure its not me"

Vote Mets

No, don't be silly, re-read it. Talapus says that if mafia let it happen then it's because they were doing so intentionally. I was observing that even if you wanted pershy to die, you might have been unable to contribute just because of how the timing played out.

I read it as Mets defending himself when it doesn't look like he was ever actually accused of anything. Leaning scum on him.

[Streaker]

@ wing, you really wanna let charm off the hook today with that half ass claim?

[mtamburini]

I can now fully focus on this game.

We should lynch people by # of posts they have done, Im sure well hit a lot of scum since that is the meta for this site now.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

@ wing, you really wanna let charm off the hook today with that half ass claim?

Yup, If scum have cast silencing charm on a townie, it would be a bit stupid to then lynch said townie. Its day 2 in a 24 player game, I am sure we can find someone else to vote for. Its worrying that there may be a player silenced every single day in this game, and multiple could claim it each day. The more we know about this charm the better, and so we need the player Charm to tell us what happened, as I doubt anyone is going to claim responsibility for it. We wont find that out by lynching Charm today.

As I said, there will need to be an interrogation D3 that Charm will not get away from lightly.

[mtamburini]

@wing what do you think of my suggestion?

Im most likely just going to read by author instead of post time and start counting and seeing if there is any significant posts.

Also since ive not been entirely reading through thread if someone can post players who have claimed and if they have said they have done night actions stuff like that, thatd save me some time and be great