Matrix Mafia Endgame, Town and Survivors win!

[vodean]

Wonder Priest power, activate!

Vote S7C

@ hippo: Seriously? You're trying to pressure jak? Dafuq?

Time for the moment of 100% truth..

unless that phrase means something. or hes still getting support from another day-power. it would certainly suggest hes mafia if hes not priest. theres only one way to find that out.

[thechuck51]

Wonder Priest power, activate!

Vote S7C

@ hippo: Seriously? You're trying to pressure jak? Dafuq?

Time for the moment of 100% truth..

unless that phrase means something. or hes still getting support from another day-power. it would certainly suggest hes mafia if hes not priest. theres only one way to find that out.

Its from the old super friends cartoon. The wonder twins would always say "wonder twin powers, activate!" and turn into whatever lame item was needed at the time. Everywhere is just having a little fun with his big moment.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

well i hope he is truthful. dont know why i put myself out there. but whatever ill do what i need for town. just when that vote count comes if it does can someone unvote i dont like what doom is doing and i think he will hammer me if you dont so.

fastposted...
they werent lame items...they were very useful

[Nebuchadnezer]

Phew! Caught up on the last few pages.

My thoughts:

Hippo is a fool for wanting to vote Jak.

Doom is odd for the No lynch. Hell, lynch me if we get to an impasse...at least we'll get some voting patterns.

Is everyone satisfied with everywhere's claim now?

Neb

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Phew! Caught up on the last few pages.

My thoughts:

Hippo is a fool for wanting to vote Jak.

Doom is odd for the No lynch. Hell, lynch me if we get to an impasse...at least we'll get some voting patterns.

Is everyone satisfied with everywhere's claim now?

Neb

obviously not.

[safariguy5]

Vote Count

clever(10)- leehar, vodean, ghostly, IB,neb, jak, betiko, hippo, sound, shield
vodean(4)- mob, chuck, jonty, clever
everywhere(3)- edoc, dj, aage
no lynch(1)- doom

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

Day will end midnight PST June 12. If no lynch is determined by then, a no lynch will occur.

[thehippo8]

Well, ya can't get clearer than that!

unvote

But lookie here ...

On Edoc? I asked him like one question and he floored me with his response, I kinda had to unvote. I could say the exact same thing about you right now.

And as far as I am aware I have not backed off the everywhere lynch yet, so I still don't really know what you are getting at.

Can you tell me why you don't believe my claim and/or are not convinced by my demonstration?

I believe you are a priest, but there is nothing to say that you have to be a town priest.

Lot's of talk but no vote. Is there any reason why you shouldn't be pressured?

Without boring everyone with another longwinded case. Let me put it simply. You attacked neb day 1, you L1-ed Skill on day 2, you appear dead set on getting rid of everywhere. But does any of that matter this late in the day?

[jonty125]

I'm going to FOS hippo, for that strange post on lynching jak & then now unvoting S7C!! I thought we were trying to kill 2 birds with one stone (test claim & lynch S7C). Also, Doom's vote was strange but he is cleared.

unvote vote S7C

[thehippo8]

I'm going to FOS hippo, for that strange post on lynching jak & then now unvoting S7C!! I thought we were trying to kill 2 birds with one stone (test claim & lynch S7C). Also, Doom's vote was strange but he is cleared.

unvote vote S7C

Fos back at ya Jonty. There was no such suggestion. Why would Clever agree to that? And anyways, skim much? I said ages ago that it'd be hypocritical of me to lynch a vt considering!

[jonty125]

I'm going to FOS hippo, for that strange post on lynching jak & then now unvoting S7C!! I thought we were trying to kill 2 birds with one stone (test claim & lynch S7C). Also, Doom's vote was strange but he is cleared.

unvote vote S7C

Fos back at ya Jonty. There was no such suggestion. Why would Clever agree to that? And anyways, skim much? I said ages ago that it'd be hypocritical of me to lynch a vt considering!

In a lynch, generally the lynched doesn't agree. And Doom said he would come in and drop the hammer (with the priest claim was cleared), so that gives the impression of S7C been lynched.

[vodean]

jonty, you didnt even give us time to analyze and discuss. it was by no means certain that we would lynch S7C. I was honestly about to try and get a claim out of pmc, because I do agree that hes one of the scummier individuals. unfortunately, my notes on this game are very poor, and i cant say whos been associating with him.

FOS Jonty
FOS pmc

i move to make them our cases for tomorrow

[pmchugh]

Well, ya can't get clearer than that!

unvote

But lookie here ...

On Edoc? I asked him like one question and he floored me with his response, I kinda had to unvote. I could say the exact same thing about you right now.

And as far as I am aware I have not backed off the everywhere lynch yet, so I still don't really know what you are getting at.

Can you tell me why you don't believe my claim and/or are not convinced by my demonstration?

I believe you are a priest, but there is nothing to say that you have to be a town priest.

Lot's of talk but no vote. Is there any reason why you shouldn't be pressured?

Without boring everyone with another longwinded case. Let me put it simply. You attacked neb day 1, you L1-ed Skill on day 2, you appear dead set on getting rid of everywhere. But does any of that matter this late in the day?

vote everywhere- forgot I unvoted.

There is no reason why I shouldn't be pressured although there are reasons I shouldn't be lynched.

I never did much day 1, and I was against the neb case so you might wanna check that.
Day 2- you are right I voted skill and helped get him lynched but I stand by the reasons why I did it.
Everywhere- I am not dead set, but I seriously do not want to lynch clever for playing exactly the same way he does in every game and although I am less sure about vodean he seems to have at least put some effort into scum hunting. At the moment everwhere is the best option on the table and I vote with my balls not with BW of the day, I fail to see how this is scummy in the slightest.

[jonty125]

jonty, you didnt even give us time to analyze and discuss.

You are quite aware he is still @ L-1.

[pmchugh]

jonty, you didnt even give us time to analyze and discuss.

You are quite aware he is still @ L-1.

Actually I am not sure, does everywheres vote count if it is no longer the hammer? Or is it that it never goes on because it would have been the hammer?

[jonty125]

jonty, you didnt even give us time to analyze and discuss.

You are quite aware he is still @ L-1.

Actually I am not sure, does everywheres vote count if it is no longer the hammer? Or is it that it never goes on because it would have been the hammer?

From the VC, the impression I got was that the vote was not cast as that was the hammering vote

[vodean]

ah, i see. hippo hid his unvote in his unusual color at the top of his post, and then went on to presenting new ideas. i got caught up in a half-decent case, which is something we have not had since every got cleared this morning. honsetly, i am kinda for lynching S7C and ending the day... we have gone as far as we can in one day. maybe as far as we should. i also think that if clever does turn up as not VT, he is linked to hippo. shortly after the dispatch is released with a strategy about presenting a new case right before a lynch to distract attention, hippo proceeds to use this strategy.

[betiko]

I'm also in favour of lynching clever. we have more to win than to lose and this day 3 is just endless.
i think the chances that everywhere is not a town priest are pretty low, he did prove something, clever did not. I'm personally ok with anyone hammering, this is starting to be boring..

[MoB Deadly]

my predictions

clever - town
vode - town

everywhere - scum

strong fos - betiko

[Some7hingCLEVER]

i thought that when he proved it people were gonna unvote now i find im gonna get lynched? i know im a vt and one of the vt was gonna get lynched but whatever. either way its not what i agreed to but who cares?

and i also love how doom can do something like that but noone looks into it.

[Iron Butterfly]

Excuse me but did I miss somthing?

Every was cleared how? Because Clever didnt get hammered/lynched? I did not see a vote count regarding that situation and Hippo removed his vote. What exactly does this prove?

[betiko]

my predictions

clever - town
vode - town

everywhere - scum

strong fos - betiko

care to elaborate what you say about us 4? what makes you think that everywhere being priest has more chances of being scum than town? the flavour doesn't fit mafia. For me it's a role related to the oracle, therefore most likely beneficial to town.
we have 4 vts and i want to get rid of one. VT is the number 1 fakeclaim for scum, and clever is definitely for me the scummiest.

fastposted

[edocsil]

Excuse me but did I miss somthing?

Every was cleared how? Because Clever didnt get hammered/lynched? I did not see a vote count regarding that situation and Hippo removed his vote. What exactly does this prove?

Dude, flip back a few pages, it's legit.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Excuse me but did I miss somthing?

Every was cleared how? Because Clever didnt get hammered/lynched? I did not see a vote count regarding that situation and Hippo removed his vote. What exactly does this prove?

ya everywhere didnt even vote me yet. so it coudnt be proven. thats really strange coming from hippo.

fastposted.
im glad you find me scummy

lets do some digging shall we? i just went through all your post through day 3 and this is the first i found were you think i was scummy may i add you posted it..yesterday

yeah, i was agreeing with all hippo said lately, but this last post, really? no good reason to lynch vodean or clever, a vt claim is rock solid? and trinity a possible scum?? I don't know if you've seen the movie, i don t remember, but she's a main character from the good guys, just after neo and at the same level as morpheus (rip). If it hasn't been counterclaimed, doom and jak are 100% town masons, the flavour would just make absolutely no sense, just like that accusation and that clearing out.
FOS hippo

I'm ok with the test on clever, because i think he deserves a lynch anyway after all what happened on day 3 with him (continuously sheeping, skimming, overly afraid of a lynch being a vt... i don't trust him and the chances he is scum are way higher than a priest role..)
unvote, vote clever

fastposted

oh and lets not forget that i went through and found you voted sg7 more than 3 times and most of them close to deadline. so why is he not scummy in your eyes anymore? what did he say to change your mind. and let me find the post.

if im mafia why would i defend town? seriously if im mafia why would i not just sit back and let a townie die. im not saying he is for sure town but its what i believe. therefore me being town. i didnt want him to die. what exatly is wrong with that?

because if you are mafia, you are going to tr to look town. that's a moot point.

regarding vodean, well, she sure had to look through a lot of pages, posted a lot of things without having yet the knowledge of the future pages. I disagree with most of the things she said but don't think it's worth a vote! applause for all her inputs though and being so active.

I'm still on SG7, that is still not around. he shows up once in a while to jokevote and tries too hard sometimes to look concerned about the town.

by the way, how can ghostly still not be replaced while other people have been replaced far after him? is that a mod tell?
ghostly has a well suited name.

by the way, i moved and i'm waiting for my modem to arrive, so can only post from work and will be less active in the next couple of weeks.

here he says i do seem a little off but sg7 is still scummier. why you leaving him alone now. cause town is for my lynch? trying to look town betiko?

ok so who thinks that between clever and vodean one is definitely not town? who thinks that it wouldn't be a good idea to look somewhere else?

SG7 is always joking about being scum in every game, and he often ends up actually being scum. i think it wouldn't hurt to make him claim, i'm really not convinced about the 2 major cases (vodean and clever) we have here.

and here you said you didnt want to lynch me or vodean. what changed? and notice he still pushes at sg7

im still for this lynch... hes had 48 hours to think about it and pick a nobody to claim as that would most likely not have been included... he could have had plenty of time to mull over it with his scumbuddies hippo, edoc, sg7, everything, and chuck.

that is sketchy flavor analysis...
he was talked to... but that scene was about mifune's death only. not the kid

seriously? either you are a really bad player, either you are scummy as hell. sorry about the 80 pages.
unvote, vote vodean

and here you vote vodean after saying you believe one of us is town other might not be (see above post in red). now you think its me and what did i do to change your mind. inbetween now and then i didnt do anything scummy so what changed your mind.

unvote vote betiko

i know this is kinda out there just trying to give you guys something for tommorow

[aage]

Excuse me but did I miss somthing?

Every was cleared how? Because Clever didnt get hammered/lynched? I did not see a vote count regarding that situation and Hippo removed his vote. What exactly does this prove?

He did, Mr. Skimmer. The vote count is on the previous page, and Everywhere's not on it.

i thought that when he proved it people were gonna unvote now i find im gonna get lynched? i know im a vt and one of the vt was gonna get lynched but whatever. either way its not what i agreed to but who cares?

Obviously you don't agree to yourself getting lynched.

Personally, I think the Everywhere-testing and not-hammering S7C has dragged on far longer than usual, which makes me think he's got help. Two masons are already claimed, I doubt there are more.

Vote S7C. This should have happened days ago.

[vodean]

way to go skimming, clever. everywhere DID vote. there was a vote count right after that showing his vote as not being counted. then hippo unvoted.

I am sorry that you got lynched, and am not convinced that you are all THAT scummy anymore, but this needed to stop, and you werent offering a defense. sorry.