Matrix mafia Day 3 - no-one died? [Abandoned]

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The mod obviously meant that it's unlikely for a player, any player, to randomly post gamebreaking info and then edit it out to say it's snowing 5 seconds later, I mean it would take someone who has no idea what is going on, and yet is a seamless liar. And as I have said, I agree, there is no logical point in assuming there was a scum cover-up.


However I must say that your meta-gaming could use some work, the mod is impartial, to try to play the mod and infer some game related motive is very unusual, to try to prove he is scum OR town. I will also point out that the mod was in fact talking about a mod punishment, NOT anything related to our option of a lynch, just look at the same post you are reading so much into, he says "why I'M being lenient", he is explaining his reason for being lenient on a player in a rule related event as the mod, he is no way being partial to any faction or guiding us to our best interest.

[Fircoal]

You've got to be kidding me... Seriously? Either you're both unable to read between the lines (which I extremely doubt, especially with edoc) or you're both scum...

Are you in this game?
And I disagree. Not all new players take the effort to read the rules because the rules are practically the same on every mafia forum. I edited once as well because I never ever played a forum where editing was prohibited, and I was assuming the rules were the same anyways. This is the key reason why I'm being lenient about it.

Also I think it is REALLY farfetched to think he was saying "oh my scumbuddies are x y and z" and then edited that out xD

The bolded part for me is an indirect way to think that way. Just got a feeling that aage defending a noob townie, who shouldn't be lynched for what he had done and by saying that he shouldn't be lynched, aage is inferring that it's not to our benefit, thus he's not scum. It's extremely unfriendly and unwelcoming to do that to a noob (it's likely he won't come back after such experience)

Aage pretty much directly said that it's extremely bad to lynch a player judging from that and defended him and you're saying that he didn't. Seriously guys...

No, we are say that the defense in no way proves he is town, which is quite different. The mod isn't town aligned, they tend to root for the underdog, a lone SK or something. Not suggesting that he is a SK, just that because the mod doesn't wish him dead doesn't mean he is town.

SKs are always so fun to root for, but so unrewarding. D:

Also Commander by the same notion could Aage be saying that so that we won't lynch him because he doesn't want to see a noob scum being lynched because he's a noob and editted out something stupid? Are you ready for MOD WIFOM!??!?!!?!??!

[Haggis_McMutton]

Yeah, I agree that you can't really imply anything about 00icon from that mod post. And yeah, he's starting to accumulate bad habits it seems, but they still seem more like newbtells than anything to me. Just stop skimming man.

I guess edoc's still the most suspicious to me, but still not really enough to upgrade my fos to a vote(besides, he's still at L-2 isn't he? )
Sigh, guess I'm gonna have to try to re-read this one as well ...

[aage]

No, we are say that the defense in no way proves he is town, which is quite different. The mod isn't town aligned, they tend to root for the underdog, a lone SK or something. Not suggesting that he is a SK, just that because the mod doesn't wish him dead doesn't mean he is town.

If you'll have enough time, read his whole post again and it's exact wording. Unless more concrete information will come out, I will definitely assume him to be town. Not saying that I couldn't be wrong and you couldn't be right, but this along with 00coin being a noob suggests there's no case here and that we would be better off looking somewhere else.

Okay. He's scum.

Happy?

NO I am NAWT being serous

[00iCon]

If you'll have enough time, read his whole post again and it's exact wording. Unless more concrete information will come out, I will definitely assume him to be town. Not saying that I couldn't be wrong and you couldn't be right, but this along with 00coin being a noob suggests there's no case here and that we would be better off looking somewhere else.

Despite knowing i'm town, i still don't understand how you could get such a definite read! There's some pointing in that direction, but no real concrete evidence. Still thanks for standing up for me.
But now allow me to question YOUR motives. Are you trying to get me on your side to support you with every scummy lynch you make?

Okay. He's scum.

Happy?

NO I am NAWT being serous

Lol, thanks! this is the same fate as getting modkilled

[Commander9]

Okay, fine, lets just get this back on track. While I still won't agree, but I can see that this will go nowhere, so it's best to just move back where we finished. I'm still almost sure that he will turn out to be town, but we'll see.

[strike wolf]

Actually I'm thinking he might turn up lyncher or some similar role. He's made a couple attempts now to go out of his way to attack your motives.

I also don't see how the mod's posts really cleared him...aage seemed to be speaking more along the lines that he shouldn't be modkilled for editting one post than announcing to everyone that icon wasn't scum.

A lyncher isn't a threat to us as long as we know the target but I'm going to reread (his posts in particular) before I sway my vote from him.

[FloresDelMal]

I also don't see how the mod's posts really cleared him...aage seemed to be speaking more along the lines that he shouldn't be modkilled for editting one post than announcing to everyone that icon wasn't scum.

QFT aage is better than that, he couldn't sabotage his own game, we shouldn't read too much into his commentary.

[strike wolf]

Reviewing the case, I think that yes there is a good chance icon could be a lyncher or maybe a role that's a bit more interesting however considering his overall behavior he's still the best choice for a lynch especially considering that this game needs a bit of a shot in the arm.

[edocsil]

Reviewing the case, I think that yes there is a good chance icon could be a lyncher or maybe a role that's a bit more interesting however considering his overall behavior he's still the best choice for a lynch especially considering that this game needs a bit of a shot in the arm.

This. A vote count would be another good one.

[TheSaxlad]

Reviewing the case, I think that yes there is a good chance icon could be a lyncher or maybe a role that's a bit more interesting however considering his overall behavior he's still the best choice for a lynch especially considering that this game needs a bit of a shot in the arm.

Of course theres a lyncher. Think bacl to cypher in the first matrix film.

He sold them out to get back into the matrix. I reckon whoever he is trying to lynch must be one of the main characters... neo, or morpheus maybe.

[strike wolf]

Reviewing the case, I think that yes there is a good chance icon could be a lyncher or maybe a role that's a bit more interesting however considering his overall behavior he's still the best choice for a lynch especially considering that this game needs a bit of a shot in the arm.

Of course theres a lyncher. Think bacl to cypher in the first matrix film.

He sold them out to get back into the matrix. I reckon whoever he is trying to lynch must be one of the main characters... neo, or morpheus maybe.

Wouldn't Cypher be a traitor though? Not necessarily a lyncher.

I've been hesitant to say this because quite honestly it's speculative as hell and it's a bit early in the game for speculating as far as game set up is concerned but if we were to assume that The Source is the godfather could that make Agent Smith a potential usurper?

[00iCon]

Are you suspicious because i play jokingly? do you want me to play seriously, unlike myself?

Also, where did you get the idea that main characters had to be players, Sax? maybe that's just back-story?

[Commander9]

Are you suspicious because i play jokingly? do you want me to play seriously, unlike myself?

Also, where did you get the idea that main characters had to be players, Sax? maybe that's just back-story?

All most any time a mafia is hosted with some sort of the theme, all of the main protagonists and antagonists are included. I'd say Sax has fairly logical thoughts here.

[strike wolf]

Are you suspicious because i play jokingly? do you want me to play seriously, unlike myself?

Also, where did you get the idea that main characters had to be players, Sax? maybe that's just back-story?

It is fairly speculative at this point to speculate on the speculativeness of the speculation that this game could consist of major characters from a movie that speculates what robots might do to people in the future speculating that the robots speculated that humans were a disease and needed to be isolated. But tell me who would you speculate is in this game if you fail to speculate that there are major characters as I would speculate that you speculate your own speculations to be just. Other than that there is a difference between playing jokingly and fishing for lynches as you seemed to have been doing.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

aage perhaps a prod is in order?

-Tails

[VioIet]

Okay, fine, lets just get this back on track. While I still won't agree, but I can see that this will go nowhere, so it's best to just move back where we finished. I'm still almost sure that he will turn out to be town, but we'll see.

Back on track? Where exactly were we before? I would like a better explanation of how you just know that 00icon is town. Usually people don't defend others quite like that.

Vote Commander9

[aage]

aage perhaps a prod is in order?

-Tails

Yes, perhaps. I reasoned everyone might have a lack of free time due to the holidays ending, but the absence of posts is indeed remarkable.

[Commander9]

Back on track? Where exactly were we before? I would like a better explanation of how you just know that 00icon is town. Usually people don't defend others quite like that.

Vote Commander9

Back on track to analysing the actual user posts as we go into a debate about mod's thoughts and I was the only one who had those thoughts. Skimming?

I don't know, but I'm fairly certain that he's town with the same reasons I've already went through a couple of times few pages ago.

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We're in a deadlock because noone knows where the votes are after 7 pages.

[VioIet]

Back on track to analysing the actual user posts as we go into a debate about mod's thoughts and I was the only one who had those thoughts. Skimming?

I don't know, but I'm fairly certain that he's town with the same reasons I've already went through a couple of times few pages ago.

Obviously those reasons weren't clear, or I wouldn't have asked again. So I will repeat myself. I would like a better explanation of how you just know that 00icon is town. Usually people don't defend others quite like that. Also, isn't "analyzing actual user posts" what you were doing when you gave unclear reasons for knowing 00icon is town?
I don't get "back on track" as we weren't going anywhere to begin with, and this 00icon thing is a new lead.

[aage]

Vote Count

0. aage 1 (Flores)
1. Tailgunner
2. Edoc 5 ( xuereb, Chu, Freezie, Commander9, /)
3. VioIet
4. Haggis
5. Freezie
6. Strike Wolf
7. TheSaxlad
8. Commander9 1 (vioIet)
9. 00iCon 2 (strike wolf, tails)
10. Flow520
11. xuereb 1 (flow)
12. / 1 (Saxlad)
13. Chu
14. Flores 1 (/)

14 alive, 8 to lynch.

Here's the votes after 7 pages. Sorry if I held you up.

[Commander9]

Obviously those reasons weren't clear, or I wouldn't have asked again. So I will repeat myself. I would like a better explanation of how you just know that 00icon is town. Usually people don't defend others quite like that. Also, isn't "analyzing actual user posts" what you were doing when you gave unclear reasons for knowing 00icon is town?
I don't get "back on track" as we weren't going anywhere to begin with, and this 00icon thing is a new lead.

Running a bit short on time in the last few days, but I will leave a quick answer and I'll hopefully make a better post tomorrow.

First of all, we were actually analysing Edoc and not 00coin. Skimming again? Or just defending your scummie?

Yet again, let me repeat - I don't know, but I do think that what aage written it can inferred. I think that he's town and I will continue to do so unless proven wrong.

[Fircoal]

Okay, fine, lets just get this back on track. While I still won't agree, but I can see that this will go nowhere, so it's best to just move back where we finished. I'm still almost sure that he will turn out to be town, but we'll see.

Back on track? Where exactly were we before? I would like a better explanation of how you just know that 00icon is town. Usually people don't defend others quite like that.

Vote Commander9

1) I believe he got into that before, and it's something we don't realy want to focus on.

2) Where is this coming fromzel? I'm suspicious...

[VioIet]

First of all, we were actually analysing Edoc and not 00coin. Skimming again? Or just defending your scummie?

You specifically said that you think 00icon is town, and that is what i questioned you about. It had nothing to do with edoc; that was a completely different issue, that I wasn't even involved in. "You don't know," is not really an acceptable answer for me.

You raised my suspicion; that is why my vote is on you. Also the whole edoc/00icon edit thing was getting us nowhere, and I would like to seek a new lead.