UnMafia 3 (1/19) *OVAR* GO GO GO!!!

[Victor Sullivan]

Vote Vic Hopefully there is an explanation and you weren't just being a fruit.

I was being a fruit.

I'm the town copier, homes. Need I say more?

[The Weird One]

Vote Vic Hopefully there is an explanation and you weren't just being a fruit.

I was being a fruit.

I'm the town copier, homes. Need I say more?

This doesn't account for you acting like a dumbass. Unless it comes with a whorish post restriction [I could be wrong, but I don't remember fir giving too many PR's]...

[Skoffin]

I have other shit to say, but I'll leave that for later.

Chu, even though your comments prove useful to us townies, I do feel that you probably shouldn't be making them. Based on the comment that Victor is acting like an idiot well... that leaves me to conclude that he was not given a role of jester. Some had speculated that he might be based on this game and his behaviour, but if the mod also thinks he's being dumb then I can only conclude that victor was not given any roles where he could be given leeway for acting too silly.

So either he is scum trying to act too loony to give a jester impression, or he's just being a really bad townie.

I think you've jumped on a conclusion too soon... Even if Fircoal would be saying he is acting like an idiot, it could be because he's a jester since that requires him to be acting like an idiot. Still I think this whole argument is flawed since I like to metagame which tells me Victor must be mafia in each of his games atm. And I don't really buy that.

I don't think so. People with jester roles tend to act ridiculous in attempt to get lynched, most mods (including chu) would know that. Thus is would be bizarre for Chu to make comments on how idiotic he has been playing, as any jester would likely do so. As a Jester, would you consider 'accidentally hammering' another player? I think most would - that is an incredibly scummy thing to do, he could get voted heavily for that the following day had he actually lynched her. But Chu decided to discount that vote because he didn't think it was a real vote - if victor were a jester I'd imagine it would be counted as intentional. I cannot fathom a reason why chu would made those responses if vic were a jester.
So I still believe that Vic is either an idiot townie, or was bad mafia hoping to lynch vio with a 'joke vote' and try to bullshit out of it tomorrow.

I don't really think I'm jumping to conclusions too soon. Hell, I've not even voted him yet. I've merely pointed out my opinions and left anyone to argue against them. It would be useless of me to not say them at all.
What has been bothering me, however, is that when I argued on Vio we had people shift on to her with barely any comment. When I made this post on vic we again had several people shift over to him without adding to it. I feel that people should be making more of an arguement for their actions instead of sheeping along with things. Especially me, as I just know that if I happen to be wrong on a lynch I'm sure to have a mass bandwagon on me tomorrow 'because I totes started it'.

[ga7]

I had pinned Vic as Jester, if he's not he should be blacklisted for being a complete moron. Input more tomoz

[FloresDelMal]

I had pinned Vic as Jester, if he's not he should be blacklisted for being a complete moron. Input more tomoz

i am not against giving the win to jesters, the chu doesn't stop the game at that, if i remember well when i won unmafia 2 as a jester the game kept going on, i don't see a safer lynch atm.

[aage]

I don't think so. People with jester roles tend to act ridiculous in attempt to get lynched, most mods (including chu) would know that. Thus is would be bizarre for Chu to make comments on how idiotic he has been playing, as any jester would likely do so. As a Jester, would you consider 'accidentally hammering' another player? I think most would - that is an incredibly scummy thing to do, he could get voted heavily for that the following day had he actually lynched her. But Chu decided to discount that vote because he didn't think it was a real vote - if victor were a jester I'd imagine it would be counted as intentional. I cannot fathom a reason why chu would made those responses if vic were a jester.
So I still believe that Vic is either an idiot townie, or was bad mafia hoping to lynch vio with a 'joke vote' and try to bullshit out of it tomorrow.

I think Chu decided not to count the vote because he unvotes in the same post...
Going into discussion with you about that, however, will probably lead nowhere, so I'll rest the point, after noting that I still disagree. Also, as a good player anyone should be able to ignore the comments made by a moderator about a player's behaviour related to their role. That's not meant as an indirect insult, btw.

I don't really think I'm jumping to conclusions too soon. Hell, I've not even voted him yet. I've merely pointed out my opinions and left anyone to argue against them. It would be useless of me to not say them at all.
What has been bothering me, however, is that when I argued on Vio we had people shift on to her with barely any comment. When I made this post on vic we again had several people shift over to him without adding to it. I feel that people should be making more of an arguement for their actions instead of sheeping along with things. Especially me, as I just know that if I happen to be wrong on a lynch I'm sure to have a mass bandwagon on me tomorrow 'because I totes started it'.

If I read your post correctly it led you to believe him to be either stupid or scummy. I think that's a pretty conclusive thing to think.
I agree on the second part. I smell scummy bandwagoners.

[strike wolf]

Vote Vic Hopefully there is an explanation and you weren't just being a fruit.

I was being a fruit.

I'm the town copier, homes. Need I say more?

And what's your roles ability?

[Iliad]

Vote Vic Hopefully there is an explanation and you weren't just being a fruit.

I was being a fruit.

I'm the town copier, homes. Need I say more?

Never heard of that role. And yeah, if you don't say more the town will lynch you.

[LSU Tiger Josh]

Chu does let games continue after a jester win. With that said, I am also of agreement that the odds are against him being a jester. I'll wait for his answer before deciding to vote him or not.

[Skoffin]

I don't think so. People with jester roles tend to act ridiculous in attempt to get lynched, most mods (including chu) would know that. Thus is would be bizarre for Chu to make comments on how idiotic he has been playing, as any jester would likely do so. As a Jester, would you consider 'accidentally hammering' another player? I think most would - that is an incredibly scummy thing to do, he could get voted heavily for that the following day had he actually lynched her. But Chu decided to discount that vote because he didn't think it was a real vote - if victor were a jester I'd imagine it would be counted as intentional. I cannot fathom a reason why chu would made those responses if vic were a jester.
So I still believe that Vic is either an idiot townie, or was bad mafia hoping to lynch vio with a 'joke vote' and try to bullshit out of it tomorrow.

I think Chu decided not to count the vote because he unvotes in the same post...
Going into discussion with you about that, however, will probably lead nowhere, so I'll rest the point, after noting that I still disagree. Also, as a good player anyone should be able to ignore the comments made by a moderator about a player's behaviour related to their role. That's not meant as an indirect insult, btw.

I don't really think I'm jumping to conclusions too soon. Hell, I've not even voted him yet. I've merely pointed out my opinions and left anyone to argue against them. It would be useless of me to not say them at all.
What has been bothering me, however, is that when I argued on Vio we had people shift on to her with barely any comment. When I made this post on vic we again had several people shift over to him without adding to it. I feel that people should be making more of an arguement for their actions instead of sheeping along with things. Especially me, as I just know that if I happen to be wrong on a lynch I'm sure to have a mass bandwagon on me tomorrow 'because I totes started it'.

If I read your post correctly it led you to believe him to be either stupid or scummy. I think that's a pretty conclusive thing to think.
I agree on the second part. I smell scummy bandwagoners.

Perhaps, or could be simply because he also thinks that Victor has been nothing but a dickhead this whole time.
I don't intend on going further with that point anyway, so I guess this dies here.
Perhaps we should ignore those comments, but the moderator should be the one making calls on what they should or should not be saying. Once something is written in this thread it becomes part of the game. Sure we could try to ignore and make no comment on it, but we will still have formed opinions in our own minds on what was said. We should also be ignoring meta, but no one seems to be doing that either.
You seem to be taking the same approach as Vio in insulting anyone who disagrees with you and it was equally annoying when she was doing it.

Essentially yes, he is either stupid or scummy. But not a jester in my mind.

I've already stated this reason and reasons previously on why I still do not believe Victor to be a jester, but can't be fucked looking into him any more. Some one else can give their take on him.

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As for vio, my issue on that case is it seemed that she was ignoring the comments already made on her to take a leap at commander's absence. She wanted him dead no matter what, not caring for him returning or coming back. That, in my mind, does not seem town like. I do not believe that we will get as much information from a straight lynch on him now as she claims. His role is essentially inactive now, meaning it is in no way a threat at this present time even if he is mafia. For the record, I still have not seen anything sufficient enough to conclude that he is mafia. Based on the logic provided he could very easily be a town power role. I wish to leave him until we can get a proper response from him or any replacement.

As town tracker Vio, you should have been far less stubborn than you were. It's all fine and dandy to latch on to a theory and run with it, but you need to be able to work with what you have in a manner best suited to the town. You hadn't fleshed out your thoughts and you ran yourself into a near lynch leading to, if you really are a tracker, being outed as an important PR. A great townie knows how to manipulate others into voting on a lynch they believe to be good, a good townie knows when to shut up or fix their errors. They do not run further afield with their unfinished theory and then essentially sacrifice themself. You could have used your abilities to find a lot more information out and then put that out there, you did not need to 'take one for the team' on day one.

In other news, I will probably be out of this game for the next day or two. Good day.

[nagerous]

Vote Vic Hopefully there is an explanation and you weren't just being a fruit.

I was being a fruit.

I'm the town copier, homes. Need I say more?

Never heard of that role. And yeah, if you don't say more the town will lynch you.

FOS Iliad, copier is a regular role that fircoal likes to use.

[ga7]

It baffles me that in this game so far SKoff has posted more content than in her whole CC mafia history before. She must be scum
I'll try to post this evening, then I might not be active till the weekend.

[The Weird One]

Vote Vic Hopefully there is an explanation and you weren't just being a fruit.

I was being a fruit.

I'm the town copier, homes. Need I say more?

Never heard of that role. And yeah, if you don't say more the town will lynch you.

FOS Iliad, copier is a regular role that fircoal likes to use.

What, pray tell, does it do?

[pmchugh]

I am busy with uni etc etc i.e my life sucks.

Well Ihaven't read through this thread, I may have even been replaced which would be qutie ammusing. From the last two pages it seems as if Victor is acting like an uber noob and tbh I wouldn't be surprised if it were some wacky PR (maybe with jester added to make it fit) but I don't think he would act all that strange for no reason, but maybe thats just fircoals modding style getting in my head

I am gonna throw a little fos at frenchie though (or whoever was leading the lynch the jester movement) as its a good excuse to get off a quick lynch for scum.

[Victor Sullivan]

Vote Vic Hopefully there is an explanation and you weren't just being a fruit.

I was being a fruit.

I'm the town copier, homes. Need I say more?

Never heard of that role. And yeah, if you don't say more the town will lynch you.

FOS Iliad, copier is a regular role that fircoal likes to use.

What, pray tell, does it do?

The copier can copy someone's action one night, then use it the next. It's semi-investigative, since I know who has the action I take. In other words, I can detect scum if I get a kill action, janitor action, or other actions generally attributed to mafia members.

I had pinned Vic as Jester, if he's not he should be blacklisted for being a complete moron. Input more tomoz

I already said I was being a fruit... FoS ga7 for skimming when my comment was like two posts up from yours. Anyways, if I were a jester, why wouldn't I just keep fooling around or give a terrible fake claim? I want to stay alive, thank you very much. I have yet to be a copier, so I'd really like to test it out

[ga7]

Might be my lacking some english meaning of fruit there, don't get it... But yeah Copier is a regular Fir role, I just don't get if you HAD to act like that or not. Pmc you did skimread badly as I was advocating not lynching the guy I pointed out would be a likely jester

[edocsil]

Might be my lacking some english meaning of fruit there, don't get it... But yeah Copier is a regular Fir role, I just don't get if you HAD to act like that or not. Pmc you did skimread badly as I was advocating not lynching the guy I pointed out would be a likely jester

Being a fruit basically means acting oddly, usually in a harmless manner.

[Victor Sullivan]

Might be my lacking some english meaning of fruit there, don't get it... But yeah Copier is a regular Fir role, I just don't get if you HAD to act like that or not. Pmc you did skimread badly as I was advocating not lynching the guy I pointed out would be a likely jester

Being a fruit basically means acting oddly, usually in a harmless manner.

Yes, not to be confused with "fruity", which means something quite different...

[Campin_Killer]

I just replaced uh....somebody.
I'll be reading up

[Fircoal]

I just replaced uh....Commander9.
I'll be reading up

[naxus]

I just replaced uh....Commander9.
I'll be reading up

Thats good. Can maybe get an answer to sort out the whole violet thing

[The Weird One]

I just replaced uh....Commander9.
I'll be reading up

Thats good. Can maybe get an answer to sort out the whole violet thing

She's already stated that she's not going to stop until she gets a roleclaim or a lynch. [unless I misread her posts. If I did, please correct me] I doubt that there will be any "sorting out" that can be done...

[aage]

I just replaced uh....Commander9.
I'll be reading up

Thats good. Can maybe get an answer to sort out the whole violet thing

She's already stated that she's not going to stop until she gets a roleclaim or a lynch. [unless I misread her posts. If I did, please correct me] I doubt that there will be any "sorting out" that can be done...

Well, tbh, getting a roleclaim from Commander himself might get a little tricky as he is having finals.

[The Weird One]

I just replaced uh....Commander9.
I'll be reading up

Thats good. Can maybe get an answer to sort out the whole violet thing

She's already stated that she's not going to stop until she gets a roleclaim or a lynch. [unless I misread her posts. If I did, please correct me] I doubt that there will be any "sorting out" that can be done...

Well, tbh, getting a roleclaim from Commander himself might get a little tricky as he is having finals.

He was replaced, dear...

[FloresDelMal]

It baffles me that in this game so far SKoff has posted more content than in her whole CC mafia history before. :lol: She must be scum
I'll try to post this evening, then I might not be active till the weekend.

isn't? lol i think i'm actually starting to like her, i didn't knew she could be dis articulated
on other point i can confirm that ga7 is out of town and out of net til saturday night or sunday (not too clear on that yet).

The copier can copy someone's action one night, then use it the next. It's semi-investigative, since I know who has the action I take. In other words, I can detect scum if I get a kill action, janitor action, or other actions generally attributed to mafia members.

this sound legit unvote victor and pwetty pwease shape up, now you will need a doctor protection *sighs* doctor out there please protect this kid unless he gets counterclaimed