[OFFICIAL] Lion King Mafia - Town Scarred as Mafia Wins!

[Samlen]

yep gopher, which is the name of the mole informant who gave the tip which allowed mufasa to save the cubs from the hyenas in the elephant graveyard, small but crucial role perfect for a town tracker, now will you give it a rest trying to mislead town and actually build a defense for yourself?

What other defense can I do other than figure out who else is scummy? I have nothing to add to my claim of being a giraffe with no abilities and I feel my actions of yesterday were all justifiable, to some degree. If you want to bring up a point other than "The setup must be exactly like this so your claim is likely fake," I will more than happily respond to it.

[Djfireside]

I tend to agree more with Sam's outcome than Flores. A standard game should have quite a bit of VT as it keeps the balance. Im sure that there are VT's and it makes sense they are animals but I have an issue with Sam's claim for the fact that you are saying you are part of a herd but no one else has come up to say they are also your animal so I don't see a herd which makes me wonder if you were tied to kwon in that aspect.

More than twelve days have passed since your previous post and that's the entirety of what you have to say?

Yes. I could reiterate much of what has happened but I have nothing out of the ordinary to add to it so left it all be. I chose to add some points to the Sam case and see if I can get some more information and reaction. As I stated I believe their statement of the nameless animal but wanted clarification on their statement of the herd. Im trying to move forward with some ideas.

[mandalorian2298]

I tend to agree more with Sam's outcome than Flores. A standard game should have quite a bit of VT as it keeps the balance. Im sure that there are VT's and it makes sense they are animals but I have an issue with Sam's claim for the fact that you are saying you are part of a herd but no one else has come up to say they are also your animal so I don't see a herd which makes me wonder if you were tied to kwon in that aspect.

Except this isn't a standard game, but a Nag game and he's not that crazy about Vanillas. Godfather Mafia had 3 Vanilla Townies out of 30 players (which Flores knows since she played in it.)

[Samlen]

I tend to agree more with Sam's outcome than Flores. A standard game should have quite a bit of VT as it keeps the balance. Im sure that there are VT's and it makes sense they are animals but I have an issue with Sam's claim for the fact that you are saying you are part of a herd but no one else has come up to say they are also your animal so I don't see a herd which makes me wonder if you were tied to kwon in that aspect.

More than twelve days have passed since your previous post and that's the entirety of what you have to say?

Yes. I could reiterate much of what has happened but I have nothing out of the ordinary to add to it so left it all be. I chose to add some points to the Sam case and see if I can get some more information and reaction. As I stated I believe their statement of the nameless animal but wanted clarification on their statement of the herd. Im trying to move forward with some ideas.

The part of the herd is just what i was told. I assume it's because all the animals in the lion king are, more or less, part of the same kingdom/group/herd. I don't know if it's safe to assume that each vanilla townie is a different animal, but it seems that way from the claims we've gotten so far.

[mandalorian2298]

I tend to agree more with Sam's outcome than Flores. A standard game should have quite a bit of VT as it keeps the balance. Im sure that there are VT's and it makes sense they are animals but I have an issue with Sam's claim for the fact that you are saying you are part of a herd but no one else has come up to say they are also your animal so I don't see a herd which makes me wonder if you were tied to kwon in that aspect.

More than twelve days have passed since your previous post and that's the entirety of what you have to say?

Yes. I could reiterate much of what has happened but I have nothing out of the ordinary to add to it so left it all be. I chose to add some points to the Sam case and see if I can get some more information and reaction. As I stated I believe their statement of the nameless animal but wanted clarification on their statement of the herd. Im trying to move forward with some ideas.

The part of the herd is just what i was told. I assume it's because all the animals in the lion king are, more or less, part of the same kingdom/group/herd. I don't know if it's safe to assume that each vanilla townie is a different animal, but it seems that way from the claims we've gotten so far.

...including Kwan's claim, that has been proven fake, which means that a) Scum have been given fake claims and b) those claims are for different, Vanilla, animals.

[Minister Masket]

Fair enough. Following the leader it may be but the leader in question has a damn good effective track record so far and I think we can probably all agree it has done enough damage to scum to almost certainly prove his role alignment. Skittles basically did the same thing in Civ Mafia and tore through scum in the early game by heading up the enquiries. It helps to recognise the pattern.

What exactly is his track record? He didn't get Rag killed, a day vig killed him and we're assuming it's Dakky that made the shot.
The only other notable thing he has at this moment was that he contributed in killing a mafia aligned jester. Someone who has a win condition of getting lynched to begin with.

I'm not sure how Skittles played it out in Civ but I can't concede that Mandy's record is really all that great to where we all need to just hop on board and trust his judgment 100% without question.

He didn't pull the trigger but arguably he certainly 'got' Ragian killed, being the prime person to pick up on his posts (alliteration for the nation!), immediately before the kill scene. And definitely not carried out in a light handed enough manner to consider if it was fellow scum members putting distance between each other early on. Mandy's first post after the kill scene merely reinforces the idea in my head that he was never allied to Ragian.
And yeah, he did contribute for 'letting' Kwanton win, but if you're gonna make that point then it's the same as saying I should be praised for defending Kwanton at the same time, which I'm not particularly proud of since he was scum nonetheless.

I tend to agree more with Sam's outcome than Flores. A standard game should have quite a bit of VT as it keeps the balance. Im sure that there are VT's and it makes sense they are animals but I have an issue with Sam's claim for the fact that you are saying you are part of a herd but no one else has come up to say they are also your animal so I don't see a herd which makes me wonder if you were tied to kwon in that aspect.

Agreed. Nag may not be known for including Vanillas but there's only so many named characters in Lion King. Plus from the actual animal species that the vanillas have claimed, it looks like Nag chose to watch I Just Can't Wait To Be King on repeat 50 times and picked the two or three animals that stuck out the most (the ostrich is the give-away).

[Skittles!]

I've been fairly quiet the past few RL days because I haven't known what to say or what I can input. Mandy and Flores seems to be leading the charge here against Samlen, and Samlen is loosely defending himself.

I saw the issues of Kwan throughout Day 1 purely because I thought he had a post restriction to adhere to the storyline. Now that Mufasa has been killed on Night 1, and it seems like he was given a day kill to compensate. I don't know if Kwan was actually given a fake claim or if he was just trying to latch on to the vanilla townie claims with loose naming of animals seen throughout the movie.

I am also a little bit weary of Fircoal. He joined the Kwan vote fourth, and didn't think much of his typo. But he still uses the common excuse

And now we're jumping on Kwan's typo? Well on this I'm mixed. I don't think his typo means much of anything. I've done typos like that before while town, but I do think his jumping up and seconding his role after it had been safe is noteworthy. I don't think it's that big of a deal but I am still suspcious of him and would like to see him respond. Thusly I'll Unvote. Vote: Kwanton in hopes of getting a response from him.

Minister Masket says similar about the typo but gives kwanton the benefit of the doubt too. i'm going to dismiss this because knowing MM and how he plays, he always gives players the benefit of the doubt when he's town, because he thinks everyone has the same role as him (See: Pokemon Mafia).

So while I somewhat agree with the Samlen vote, it kind of worries me how quickly this game is going. Did scum slip up that hard, that quickly? Two of them are already gone, and even if Samlen does just voted off and is town, that still leaves us (as in, town) in a good position. As long as we learn information from the lynch, then it'd even greatly benefit us. However, I tend to agree more with Sam's hypothesis with role divider tbh.

yep gopher, which is the name of the mole informant who gave the tip which allowed mufasa to save the cubs from the hyenas in the elephant graveyard, small but crucial role perfect for a town tracker, now will you give it a rest trying to mislead town and actually build a defense for yourself?

You either have a superb memory because you've watched the movie so many times, or this is a soft claim. Or alternatively you looked it up on Wikipedia or something.

Skittles basically did the same thing in Civ Mafia and tore through scum in the early game by heading up the enquiries. It helps to recognise the pattern.

Did I? lololololol

[Minister Masket]

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Minister Masket says similar about the typo but gives kwanton the benefit of the doubt too. i'm going to dismiss this because knowing MM and how he plays, he always gives players the benefit of the doubt when he's town, because he thinks everyone has the same role as him (See: Pokemon Mafia).

Skittles basically did the same thing in Civ Mafia and tore through scum in the early game by heading up the enquiries. It helps to recognise the pattern.

Did I? lololololol

I think so. Granted Hotshot and benga didn't exactly make it difficult for the town to expose them but you were definitely at the forefront of the town push against them.

[madmitch]

Come on Mandy, do you know something about Sam that we don't ? Why the push on him?If it is because of his statement about being apart of the herd ? then you are wrong because I receive the same role ,different animal but the same role. If you get rid of Sam then I must be next,almost like you are thinning out the herd You could be Scar

[mandalorian2298]

Come on Mandy, do you know something about Sam that we don't ? Why the push on him?If it is because of his statement about being apart of the herd ? then you are wrong because I receive the same role ,different animal but the same role. If you get rid of Sam then I must be next,almost like you are thinning out the herd You could be Scar

If you want to find out why I'm voting Sam, then the quickest way to find out is to carefully re-read my previous posts.

If you are afraid of being the next one on my lynch list....then the quickest way to assuage that fear is to carefully re-read my previous posts.

[FloresDelMal]

Nag may not be known for including Vanillas but there's only so many named characters in Lion King. Plus from the actual animal species that the vanillas have claimed, it looks like Nag chose to watch I Just Can't Wait To Be King on repeat 50 times and picked the two or three animals that stuck out the most (the ostrich is the give-away).

There are exactly 14 named characters on the lion king original film, even if for some strange twist of fate we happen to have 1/3 of no name characters why are we assuming so easily that all of them must be VT there is such thing as a "Goon" the VT equivalent of scum, even if the no name flavor might be true, it means nothing alignment wise

You either have a superb memory because you've watched the movie so many times, or this is a soft claim. Or alternatively you looked it up on Wikipedia or something

I only lipsync for my life

[nagerous]

FYI I am away for the long weekend so won't have much internet access . Ga7 will be monitoring the game and I may be called upon to post a quick fire scene if necessary

[madmitch]

Come on Mandy, do you know something about Sam that we don't ? Why the push on him?If it is because of his statement about being apart of the herd ? then you are wrong because I receive the same role ,different animal but the same role. If you get rid of Sam then I must be next,almost like you are thinning out the herd You could be Scar

If you want to find out why I'm voting Sam, then the quickest way to find out is to carefully re-read my previous posts.

If you are afraid of being the next one on my lynch list....then the quickest way to assuage that fear is to carefully re-read my previous posts.

oh you are a tricky devil but I don't remember any tasmania devils in the movie

[Djfireside]

Come on Mandy, do you know something about Sam that we don't ? Why the push on him?If it is because of his statement about being apart of the herd ? then you are wrong because I receive the same role ,different animal but the same role. If you get rid of Sam then I must be next,almost like you are thinning out the herd You could be Scar

I agree with Mitch's role statement and went off to do some research and while I am having issues with the herd statement, I believe the animal and type claim so I will not vote either. Kwon didnt even put up an animal if I remember correctly so there is a separation there.

[FloresDelMal]

I agree with Mitch's role statement and went off to do some research and while I am having issues with the herd statement, I believe the animal and type claim so I will not vote either. Kwon didnt even put up an animal if I remember correctly so there is a separation there.

Well since everyone is chiming in, I can also confirm that I was not given a name. I'm just an antelope

FOS dj for skimming

[mandalorian2298]

I agree with Mitch's role statement and went off to do some research and while I am having issues with the herd statement, I believe the animal and type claim so I will not vote either. Kwon didnt even put up an animal if I remember correctly so there is a separation there.

Well since everyone is chiming in, I can also confirm that I was not given a name. I'm just an antelope

FOS dj for skimming

You are being unfair Flores. Kwan has written that 4 days after DJ wrote this:

... While there can be the advocate for a no lynch, doing nothing during the day will gain absolutely nothing. The only way you can gain information in this game is by pressuring people, reading their responses and in some cases pushing for a claim to gain as much info as possible.

and, with those words of wisdom, ended his participation in Day 1.

[DirtyDishSoap]

Not to derail the discussion on DJ's skimming, but we've also have the lack of input from both Fircoal and Hotshot.

[HotShot53]

With DJ only showing up to defend sam... is there a chance they are our last two scum? Since DJ hasn't even tried to scum hunt this game, that deserves a vote. vote Djfireside

I will also consider voting for sam if the day drags on and people think he is the better lynch, as he is my second choice.

[DirtyDishSoap]

I'm more on board with that since I believe Sam's claim is legitimate.

Vote DJ.

[DirtyDishSoap]

Goes against what Hot shot said with Sam, but I don't think DJ is offering much and is trying to lurk

[FloresDelMal]

You are being unfair Flores. Kwan has written that 4 days after DJ wrote this:

... While there can be the advocate for a no lynch, doing nothing during the day will gain absolutely nothing. The only way you can gain information in this game is by pressuring people, reading their responses and in some cases pushing for a claim to gain as much info as possible.

and, with those words of wisdom, ended his participation in Day 1.

btw amongst the inactives i am also missing skoff, without her red text it feels kinda lonely in here heh

[ga7]

Vote Count :

Sam (4) Mandy, Benga, MM, Flores
DJ (2) Hotshot, DDS
No lynch till nag gets back (7) ga7

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!

[madmitch]

Just a couple of thoughts before the weekend, Sam yo claim you are a giraffe,part of the herd, so why push for a non-lynch when it would hurt town? Did you claim what you did because of my soft claim? and why say you name was Ed ? was that ajoke or a mistake onyour part? Mandy why did you mention joat?We know that king mufasa was day vig, and are you still wary of DDS ?and where is Skoffin?

[Samlen]

Because my argument for day 1 lynches is that they tend to hurt the town more than help. The "Ed the Bone Eating Giraffe" was a joke on my part, i'm just a giraffe with no name.

[FloresDelMal]

DEAD:

1) Ragian - Banzai (Mafia Tracker) - killed day one!
2) Kwanton - Ed (Mafia Idiot) lynched day one!
3)Dakky - Mufasa (King) died night one!