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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 4. The Night of Long Knives

Postby Streaker on Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:05 am

safariguy5 wrote:Well, considering this is Knox, having played with him before, I do believe this is how he plays anyways. Sure, that was an OMGUS vote on /, but I'm inclined to give more leeway to someone who managed to convince us to not hammer him yesterday without revealing role. It could very well be that the role is so important for town to not lose. After all, to me, it's easier to kill talkative scum than submarining scum because the talkative ones will probably make a mistake or freudian slip or something eventually. I'm actually going to go with the original line of argument and vote streaker. Submarining has me worried about him as clearly there is some very contentious debate going on as well as failing to respond to knox's case on him from yesterday.


Wait right there. You say that I am submarining, while there are others out there with less then HALF my posts? Yes, I'm pointing my finger to Sax...

About Knox' case on me, at that time there was no need yet to make a big defense. When a few votes were turned on me, at the beginning of the day, I explained myself... That could hardly be considered 'failing' to respond on the case against me.

As for the 'contentious' debate, as you call it, that's just the point. A lot has been said, leaving little for me to add. I'd hate to repeat other players cases.

It is quite obvious how you are trying to protect Knox, here. Draw away attention from him by shifting focus on him, to me. Al this while you aren't even paying attention to ALL of the arguments against Knox?

Ofcourse it's possible for Knox to be town, but if he's lynched and turns out scum, safariguy will make a lovely target for the next day... (It feels like he's protecting his fellow maffia, maybe even boss).

That said, I really won't repeat much of the case against Knox other then that it's very suspicious of how he has been manipulating town. And I don't like being manipulated. It's what scum would do. The part that stands out above all, to me, is where he immediatly halts conversation that is aimed towards him, or at someone he doesn't want investigated. Instead, he only focuses or promotes cases that he lead to in the first place.

I'll try and see if I can find some more evidence to the cooperation between safari and Knox, hoping to better support the case.

For now, Knox is at L-2 if I counted correctly, and I won't put him at L-1 until he can claim. (Nothing wrong with asking for a claim at this point, right?)

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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 4. The Night of Long Knives

Postby Streaker on Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:08 am

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safariguy5 wrote:Well, considering this is Knox, having played with him before, I do believe this is how he plays anyways. Sure, that was an OMGUS vote on /, but I'm inclined to give more leeway to someone who managed to convince us to not hammer him yesterday without revealing role. It could very well be that the role is so important for town to not lose. After all, to me, it's easier to kill talkative scum than submarining scum because the talkative ones will probably make a mistake or freudian slip or something eventually. I'm actually going to go with the original line of argument and vote streaker. Submarining has me worried about him as clearly there is some very contentious debate going on as well as failing to respond to knox's case on him from yesterday.


Wait right there. You say that I am submarining, while there are others out there with less then HALF my posts? Yes, I'm pointing my finger to Sax...

About Knox' case on me, at that time there was no need yet to make a big defense. When a few votes were turned on me, at the beginning of the day, I explained myself... That could hardly be considered 'failing' to respond on the case against me.

As for the 'contentious' debate, as you call it, that's just the point. A lot has been said, leaving little for me to add. I'd hate to repeat other players cases.

It is quite obvious how you are trying to protect Knox, here. Draw away attention from him by shifting focus on him, to me. Al this while you aren't even paying attention to ALL of the arguments against Knox?

Ofcourse it's possible for Knox to be town, but if he's lynched and turns out scum, safariguy will make a lovely target for the next day... (It feels like he's protecting his fellow maffia, maybe even boss).

That said, I really won't repeat much of the case against Knox other then that it's very suspicious of how he has been manipulating town. And I don't like being manipulated. It's what scum would do. The part that stands out above all, to me, is where he immediatly halts conversation that is aimed towards him, or at someone he doesn't want investigated. Instead, he only focuses or promotes cases that he lead to in the first place.

I'll try and see if I can find some more evidence to the cooperation between safari and Knox, hoping to better support the case.

For now, Knox is at L-2 if I counted correctly, and I won't put him at L-1 until he can claim. (Nothing wrong with asking for a claim at this point, right?)

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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 4. The Night of Long Knives

Postby safariguy5 on Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:22 am

I think it's funny how you suddenly deem my rather light case on you as worthy of a response while Knox's rather detailed case on you went completely unnoticed. Sure, I could have gone with an easy vote on Saxland, but he's got a very strong pr as does Vio, and I don't think this is at the stage in the game where we'd be picking on the pr people just yet. Especially since I have stated a couple times that I think one or both of them belong to Christians or are from the insane asylum. You are neither crazy nor religious, and I'm just trying to pursue multiple leads for the days to come.
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 4. The Night of Long Knives

Postby aage on Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:38 am

safariguy5 wrote:I think it's funny how you suddenly deem my rather light case on you as worthy of a response while Knox's rather detailed case on you went completely unnoticed.

very well spotted. It might be well possible that Knox was making a case on a scumbuddy?
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 4. The Night of Long Knives

Postby Streaker on Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:50 am

aage wrote:
safariguy5 wrote:I think it's funny how you suddenly deem my rather light case on you as worthy of a response while Knox's rather detailed case on you went completely unnoticed.

very well spotted. It might be well possible that Knox was making a case on a scumbuddy?


Rather funny ? You call me out for not answering, so I respond. I chose your post to reply on, because I had more to say then just an answer on the case against me. It would be funny to contribute on the case against Knox, and just ignore your post above.
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 4. The Night of Long Knives

Postby TheSaxlad on Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:18 pm

andz whyz yo pointing youz fingerz atz me. i dunz nuffin. Stillz unsure about ma manz dlanorz, ill thinkz it overz ya?
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 3. Replacements needed.

Postby Commander9 on Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:34 pm

Vote Count:

Streaker (2) - TG, safari
jeraado (2) - edoc, naxus
knox (6) - iliad, / , Haggis, jeraado, Edoc, aage L-2
/ (1) - knox

15 alive, 8 to lynch.
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 4. The Night of Long Knives

Postby Dlanor A. Knox on Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:33 pm

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Skoffin wrote: I'll also state that, while generally it is bad to lie to the town, that is not always so. Sometimes ploys can be in the towns best interests so long as they are done right .... It's generally a more advanced thing to do, however they can easily go awry if you're not careful.

I agree. I did a ploy at the beginning of resteraunt mafia in order to get discussion going and seeing who would jump and a bad BW. While this was almost identical to what knox claims to have done, I think he is either lying about the ploy, or he took it too far hoping it would catch into a lynch. The difference between the two are that in my resteraunt ploy I dropped some small accusations toward vio, focused on her a lil bit, and then watched as lots of people either jumped on her or defended her. However, once I got an actual lead and before the wagon got out of hand, I stated what I did and drew attention toward the new lead (herk). Vio never got near a lynch (unlike jeraado in this game) and as soon as I had something constructive to add to the town discussion, I shared it so that attention was diverted away from vio and she was not hurt by the original ruse. This ploy by knox (if thats what it really was) went much too far than it should have. I think the only reason knox called it off was because he saw that a strong bunch of us were defending jeraado. If jeraado had been lynched and came up town, it would not have been difficult to drum up support for his lynch tomorrow.

In summary, my thoughts are this:
Knox is either:
A) scum who started a wagon and then called it a ploy in order to save his own skin
B) an overconfident townie who is not quite as experienced at mafia as I thought he was (for letting the ruse go so far)


I'm leaning toward A right now, but I want to see how the discussion turns up before I place my vote anywhere.


Done with this. You clearly can't see the point of a gambit, so I'm not going to argue with you about experience...

I'm claiming a Town JOAT. Do what you all will.
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 4. The Night of Long Knives

Postby naxus on Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:26 pm

any name to go with that?

And how is that when we suspected you earlier you came up with huge posts and a long defense but now your being so stubborn?

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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 3. Replacements needed.

Postby Commander9 on Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:37 pm

Vote Count:

Streaker (2) - TG, safari
jeraado (2) - edoc, naxus
knox (7) - iliad, / , Haggis, jeraado, Edoc, aage, naxus L-1
/ (1) - knox

15 alive, 8 to lynch.
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 4. The Night of Long Knives

Postby jeraado on Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:47 pm

Dlanor A. Knox wrote:Done with this. You clearly can't see the point of a gambit, so I'm not going to argue with you about experience...

I'm claiming a Town JOAT. Do what you all will.


That's pathetic, you deserve to be lynched for such a weak defense. If you're scum then stop sulking and play the game, and if you're town (yeah right!) then you've played your role really badly and can't have any complaints about the result. I hate it when people throw a tanty when things don't go their way.
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 4. The Night of Long Knives

Postby safariguy5 on Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:58 pm

Yeah, I don't see how that's going to be the power role that decides town victory.

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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 4. The Night of Long Knives

Postby Commander9 on Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:41 am

Dlanor A. Knox, Jack Merchant - Jack Of All Trades, has been lynched.

Scene coming tomorrow, as it's friggin 11:40 PM.
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 4. The Night of Long Knives

Postby aage on Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:21 am

Commander9 wrote:Dlanor A. Knox, Jack Merchant - Jack Of All Trades, has been lynched.

Scene coming tomorrow, as it's friggin 11:40 PM.

Are we going to know which trades? :p
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 4. The Night of Long Knives

Postby Streaker on Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:36 am

aage wrote:
Commander9 wrote:Dlanor A. Knox, Jack Merchant - Jack Of All Trades, has been lynched.

Scene coming tomorrow, as it's friggin 11:40 PM.

Are we going to know which trades? :p



Next thing you know, with that question, the answer will be 'all' of them 8-[
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 4. The Night of Long Knives

Postby aage on Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:04 am

Streaker wrote:
aage wrote:
Commander9 wrote:Dlanor A. Knox, Jack Merchant - Jack Of All Trades, has been lynched.

Scene coming tomorrow, as it's friggin 11:40 PM.

Are we going to know which trades? :p



Next thing you know, with that question, the answer will be 'all' of them 8-[

I was thinking the same after I pressed submit, but I bet there“s just a couple of trades he does.
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 4. The Night of Long Knives

Postby Skoffin on Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:42 am

JOAT has a pretty standard set of actions, but we can discuss that tomorrow.
(Or rather, I'd say now but I'm not sure if comm would define that as 'game related speak' :? )
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 4. The Night of Long Knives

Postby Commander9 on Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:25 pm

Damnit, running a bit short on time. I'll try to get it now, but most likely it will only be in ~ 8h or so.
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 4. The Night of Long Knives

Postby Dlanor A. Knox on Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:52 pm

Here comes the boom...

Don't say you weren't warned. 3/4 scum factions... have fun.

Just as a note: There's another thing I have that makes me more valuable :S
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 4. The Night of Long Knives

Postby Dlanor A. Knox on Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:54 pm

jeraado wrote:
Dlanor A. Knox wrote:Done with this. You clearly can't see the point of a gambit, so I'm not going to argue with you about experience...

I'm claiming a Town JOAT. Do what you all will.


That's pathetic, you deserve to be lynched for such a weak defense. If you're scum then stop sulking and play the game, and if you're town (yeah right!) then you've played your role really badly and can't have any complaints about the result. I hate it when people throw a tanty when things don't go their way.


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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 4. The Night of Long Knives

Postby Commander9 on Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:53 pm

Jack Merchant has been one slick type, but even though while doing business with him was a pain, he was a good man. Jack He, just as his name would tell someone, was a successful business man. He wasn't the most orthodox one and wasn't afraid sometimes to do something that would help him... or hurt his opponents. All was going down well, until, one day, a fiend broke into his office and the place a complete mess. Jack easily killed him with his shotgun, but when he saw a swarm of others coming, his rational part of brain worked and he ran. Fast. Really fast. Jack barely survived, but he was certain that he won't be giving up yet and that he'll reconquer the life that was taken from him. So, he slowly started working out on his lost wealth, wheeling and dealing and getting his influence back. However, you can never be successful and not attract any enemies... Jack had to learn it the hard way.

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He has always projected an image of a strong willed person... That not always helped.


Jack always felt really strongly about everything around him, whether that was a bank deal, a cocktail party or annoying everyone around it. Not only that, but he did it in style! He was sure he had found his man and relentlessly pushed to get him ousted - only to fail spectacularly. The survivors gathered around him and got read the gun while shouting : "Just because he uses a lot of smart words and makes good speeches, doesn't mean that he's saying anything!" The responses were brilliant and most of the people shouted "Hell Yeah, we got him now!" Jack didn't last long - he was shot around 20 times... and then another 20 just to be sure. His last gasp words were: "I told you so..."

Dlanor A. Knox, Jack Merchant - Jack Of All Trades, has been lynched.

You have somewhere from 48 to 72 hours to send your actions. Night begins.
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Night 4.

Postby Commander9 on Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:00 pm

Harris Locke has been working restlessly to find what has caused Apocalypse and how to put the end to this horrible sequence which just kept repeating itself. He was almost completely ready for the breakthrough and was about to announce his discoveries to his best friend, but while getting there due to being not exactly normal he missed the shadow and out of the corner, abomination struck. It's claws and a bite hit Harris in the chest and he fell on the ground, his heart pounding quickly and a quick understanding had to came to his mind - "It was time." He was ready to die and just waited for the finishing blow... but it never came. Abomination had struck the protective vest, but when it saw that Harris was not moving anymore, it thought that it's job was finished and it left.

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Harris was rather excited after not dying... He had to be calmed down a bit.

Before the Apocalypse, Hippie Dude has only been known as The Dude, although the legend says that his name was Lebowski. Hippie Dude had big plans and even got a great new rug, but then it happened... Zombies, mutants, gangs... It wasn't easy to survive for him, but always knew the answer to any question. Besides, it's much easier to survive when you don't have to worry about anything and you can just fly away...

On the other side of the agora, Hippie Dude (commonly referred to as The Dude), was happy with his dealings this night - he sold some very high quality "stuff' to some sort of another dude, who need to chill after completing something really important. The Dude didn't really care who it was, but the other dude rambled about some sort of breakthrough and cure and all that other nonsense. He was happy that his work was done for the night and was ready to finally take his rug back and just get a good night sleep... but it wasn't to be.

When he got home, he found some people at his home... yet again. However, this time, without much ceremony, a girl took out a gun, giggled and said: "Thanks a lot, but we don't need your types around here - Hasta la vista." The Dude didn't understood what he had done wrong, but a last thought still smeared through his brain - "Shit, now there's blood on the rug..."


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No abiding tonight, Dude.


Haggis, the Hippie Dude, has been killed.

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 5. The Dude did not abide.

Postby VioIet on Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:50 am

The Gigglers The Gigglers!!!

What happened to the masses????

The infrastracture of your brain long surpassed the sonic boom of the apocalyptic era of the new dawing of a day that is hot when the sun shoots out its flares against the creatures from the shadows of the depths but he...

The One!!!

Thoust that he shall make known, the truth and the way and the light, that will shine the scientific ray amongst all the world, being that it might be lylo soon, but alas the medicine has pondered and found your souls.

Beware Abomination Beware!!!


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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 5. The Dude did not abide.

Postby safariguy5 on Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:10 am

Damn, gigglers popped up again. I'm having trouble trying to figure out whether these insane asylum people have any connection with the gigglers or if the gigglers are related to the Christians or what...
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Mafia - Day 5. The Dude did not abide.

Postby Streaker on Mon Feb 21, 2011 5:02 am

safariguy5 wrote:Damn, gigglers popped up again. I'm having trouble trying to figure out whether these insane asylum people have any connection with the gigglers or if the gigglers are related to the Christians or what...


Having trouble would be an understatement...

Any results on tonights actions?
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