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Does an apartheid state like Israel have the right to exist and spread its racism?

 
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Re: Iran Deal - Better than Nothing

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:19 am

mrswdk wrote:Kim Jong-Un fed his uncle to dogs after having him executed.


Yeah, that's another good example of westerners trying, and failing, to understand the world through fantasy stories told by professional politicians. Or any of these. A quick look at the poll affirms it even further. Doe-eyed Americans are happy to pay double what they should be paying for gasoline so they can feel good about "boycotting" Iranian oil to "save" Israel, despite the fact Israel itself isn't boycotting said oil.
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Re: Iran Deal - Better than Nothing

Postby khazalid on Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:20 am

saxitoxin wrote:
khazalid wrote:saxi, what do you make of ahmadinejad's statement (i paraphrase) that israel should be wiped off the face of the earth? doesn't that kind of rhetoric concern you? and if not, why?


#1 - This has been repeated by AIPAC and its politician mouthpieces with such fevered intensity that it has become a fact through process of repetition, despite having never happened. Doe-eyed Republicans, Clinton Democrats, the Ed Millibands and David Camerons of the world, however, don't care about facts; they occupy a land of delusion in which whomever has the loudest megaphone creates reality. And so they happily market these simple, cartoonish fictions of "mad Mullahs" by which they can inspire their glassy-eyed followers to sit, stand, cry, smile, shout, or whatever action is required at the moment.


well, whaddya know.

*retreats from thread*
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Re: Iran Deal - Better than Nothing

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:26 am

khazalid wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
khazalid wrote:saxi, what do you make of ahmadinejad's statement (i paraphrase) that israel should be wiped off the face of the earth? doesn't that kind of rhetoric concern you? and if not, why?


#1 - This has been repeated by AIPAC and its politician mouthpieces with such fevered intensity that it has become a fact through process of repetition, despite having never happened. Doe-eyed Republicans, Clinton Democrats, the Ed Millibands and David Camerons of the world, however, don't care about facts; they occupy a land of delusion in which whomever has the loudest megaphone creates reality. And so they happily market these simple, cartoonish fictions of "mad Mullahs" by which they can inspire their glassy-eyed followers to sit, stand, cry, smile, shout, or whatever action is required at the moment.


well, whaddya know.

*retreats from thread*


There's no reason to retreat from the thread. At this moment in time you just need to internalize the fact that (1) you were tricked and duped, and, (2) you were tricked and duped by Israel. Now, anytime in the future you hear any argument in support of Israel you need to pre-suppose it is simply fiction.
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Re: Iran Deal - Better than Nothing

Postby muy_thaiguy on Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:26 am

mrswdk wrote:Kim Jong-Un fed his uncle to dogs after having him executed.

Kim Jong-Un is a psychotic dictator.

Funny how those two tend to go hand in hand.
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Re: Iran Deal - Better than Nothing

Postby mrswdk on Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:42 am

muy_thaiguy wrote:
mrswdk wrote:Kim Jong-Un fed his uncle to dogs after having him executed.

Kim Jong-Un is a psychotic dictator.

Funny how those two tend to go hand in hand.


psst - I was referring to a complete lie which was widely circulated in Western media before being thoroughly discredited as the invention of some random blogger.
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Re: Iran Deal - Better than Nothing

Postby khazalid on Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:48 am

saxitoxin wrote:
khazalid wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
khazalid wrote:saxi, what do you make of ahmadinejad's statement (i paraphrase) that israel should be wiped off the face of the earth? doesn't that kind of rhetoric concern you? and if not, why?


#1 - This has been repeated by AIPAC and its politician mouthpieces with such fevered intensity that it has become a fact through process of repetition, despite having never happened. Doe-eyed Republicans, Clinton Democrats, the Ed Millibands and David Camerons of the world, however, don't care about facts; they occupy a land of delusion in which whomever has the loudest megaphone creates reality. And so they happily market these simple, cartoonish fictions of "mad Mullahs" by which they can inspire their glassy-eyed followers to sit, stand, cry, smile, shout, or whatever action is required at the moment.


well, whaddya know.

*retreats from thread*


There's no reason to retreat from the thread. At this moment in time you just need to internalize the fact that (1) you were tricked and duped, and, (2) you were tricked and duped by Israel. Now, anytime in the future you hear any argument in support of Israel you need to pre-suppose it is simply fiction.


the duplicity in this instance seems to be the result of a convenient mis-translation via american media. regardless, i think there are enough statements of intent from iran to constitute a threat along those lines. the situation in palestine is terrible and the Israelis are totally complicit in what is essentially an interminable war crime - of that there can be little argument, but relocating 8 million people is not the answer, and neither is atomising them.
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Re: Iran Deal - Better than Nothing

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:50 am

khazalid wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
khazalid wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:
khazalid wrote:saxi, what do you make of ahmadinejad's statement (i paraphrase) that israel should be wiped off the face of the earth? doesn't that kind of rhetoric concern you? and if not, why?


#1 - This has been repeated by AIPAC and its politician mouthpieces with such fevered intensity that it has become a fact through process of repetition, despite having never happened. Doe-eyed Republicans, Clinton Democrats, the Ed Millibands and David Camerons of the world, however, don't care about facts; they occupy a land of delusion in which whomever has the loudest megaphone creates reality. And so they happily market these simple, cartoonish fictions of "mad Mullahs" by which they can inspire their glassy-eyed followers to sit, stand, cry, smile, shout, or whatever action is required at the moment.


well, whaddya know.

*retreats from thread*


There's no reason to retreat from the thread. At this moment in time you just need to internalize the fact that (1) you were tricked and duped, and, (2) you were tricked and duped by Israel. Now, anytime in the future you hear any argument in support of Israel you need to pre-suppose it is simply fiction.


the duplicity in this instance seems to be the result of a convenient mis-translation via american media. regardless, i think there are enough statements of intent from iran to constitute a threat along those lines. the situation in palestine is terrible and the Israelis are totally complicit in what is essentially an interminable war crime - of that there can be little argument, but relocating 8 million people is not the answer, and neither is atomising them.


Sadly, we don't have the capacity in an internet forum to completely deprogram you.

Zionism will be brought to heel by an Iranian nuclear weapons program that poses a credible threat to "Israel." As Dr Waltz explained:

    The existence of a single nuclear power without a balancer is a recipe for instability in the long-run. The amazing thing is that Israel managed to remain a single nuclear power for such a long time! Israel is an anomaly in this way. This anomaly will be removed if Iran becomes a nuclear power.

    http://thediplomat.com/2012/07/kenneth- ... -the-bomb/
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Re: Iran Deal - Better than Nothing

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Jul 16, 2015 12:37 pm

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Anthropologists for the Boycott of Israel, a group of 1,100 university archaeologists and anthropologists, has just published a handy guide to boycotting the Zionist entity. Advise includes guidelines for non-cooperation with Israeli archaeological programs, refusal of technical assistance to Israeli excavations, and rejection of academic papers originating from Israeli institutions.
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Re: Iran Deal - Better than Nothing

Postby GoranZ on Thu Jul 16, 2015 4:08 pm

How the deal looks like :D

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Re: Iran Deal - Better than Nothing

Postby tzor on Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:04 pm

saxitoxin wrote:Anthropologists for the Boycott of Israel, a group of 1,100 university archaeologists and anthropologists,


Sounds more like an organization founded by Dr. René Emile Belloq than Dr. Henry Walton Jones, Jr.

But then again, you always reminded me of that little Nazi monkey. :twisted:

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Re: Iran Deal - Better than Nothing

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:30 pm

tzor wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:Anthropologists for the Boycott of Israel, a group of 1,100 university archaeologists and anthropologists,


Sounds more like an organization founded by Dr. René Emile Belloq than Dr. Henry Walton Jones, Jr.

But then again, you always reminded me of that little Nazi monkey. :twisted:

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Among the members of Anthropologists for the Boycott of Israel are Dr Philippe Bourgois of Penn whose father was one of less than 100 people to successfully escape from Auschwitz.
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Re: Iran Deal - Better than Nothing

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Jul 16, 2015 7:42 pm

77 =
Percent of Americans Who Consider Iran a "Critical Threat"

25 =
Percent of Americans Who Can Find Iran on a Map

2000+=
Estimated number of Iranian ground troops engaged in the fight against ISIS

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0 =
Estimated number of Israeli ground troops engaged in the fight against ISIS

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0 =
Number of U.S. Military Personnel Killed by Iranian Armed Forces

34 =
Number of U.S. Military Personnel Killed by Israeli Defense Forces

3 =
Number of Christmas tweets sent to the Holy Father from the current President of Iran
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0 =
Number of Christmas tweets sent to the Holy Father from the current President of Israel
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2,350 (years) =
Age of Persian Civilization

67 (years) =
Age of Israeli "Civilization"
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Re: Iran Deal - Good But Not Enough

Postby Metsfanmax on Thu Jul 16, 2015 10:21 pm

saxitoxin wrote:I am opposed to the Iran deal, though, as the sanctions should have been unilaterally lifted.


I understand that one of the concerns some Republicans have with this deal relates to the fact that many of the sanctions that would be lifted were placed on Iran for reasons other than their nuclear program, and they don't want to sacrifice those other sanctions to stop the nuclear program.
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Re: Iran Deal - Better than Nothing

Postby riskllama on Thu Jul 16, 2015 10:28 pm

haven't the jews been around a wee bit longer than that, saxi? headsup, your bias is showing...
i'm beginning to think you have some sort of problem with israel, 'sup dude?
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Re: Iran Deal - Better than Nothing

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:18 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:I am opposed to the Iran deal, though, as the sanctions should have been unilaterally lifted.


I understand that one of the concerns some Republicans have with this deal relates to the fact that many of the sanctions that would be lifted were placed on Iran for reasons other than their nuclear program, and they don't want to sacrifice those other sanctions to stop the nuclear program.


tough luck

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haven't the jews been around a wee bit longer than that, saxi?


I don't know if they have or haven't. I never said anything about Jews or Judaism and those aren't topics that interest me very much.

Christians have been around for 2,000 years but Paraguay has only been a nation since 1811. Should I say Paraguay is 2,000 years old just because it has one of the highest concentrations of Christians in the world (96% of the population)?
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Re: Iran Deal - Better than Nothing

Postby riskllama on Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:22 pm

so, your beef is with the nation of israel and not all jews on gods' green earth? is that correct? so you are not the rabid hatemonger nietzsche makes you out to be?
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Re: Iran Deal - Better than Nothing

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:32 pm

SWEEET! The Iranian pop star Amir Tataloo has just collaborated on a tight new music video with the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps to commemorate the peace deal. Some breathtaking shots of Amir aboard the newly launched Iranian Navy frigate IRIS Damavand (named after Mount Damavand, a legendary site in the minority Zorastrian religion; Zorastrians believe the dragon Zahhak is imprisoned inside Damavand).

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Re: Iran Deal - Better than Nothing

Postby apey on Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:37 pm

riskllama wrote:so, your beef is with the nation of israel and not all jews on gods' green earth? is that correct? so you are not the rabid hatemonger nietzsche makes you out to be?

Nietz is just one of my favorite attention whores. Agree and move on.
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Re: Iran Deal - Better than Nothing

Postby warmonger1981 on Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:40 pm

Good question. Do you hate the state of Israel as a government or is it the Jews who live within the state?. If you hate the state of Israel, then are the OK with the Jews? Or do you hate the Jews and are OK with the state of Israel. If Israel is destroyed where is a good place for the Jews to go?
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Re: Iran Deal - Better than Nothing

Postby riskllama on Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:42 pm

"what is florida, alex".
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Re: Iran Deal - Better than Nothing

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:43 pm

warmonger1981 wrote:If Israel is destroyed where is a good place for the Jews to go?


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Re: Iran Deal - Better than Nothing

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:46 pm

riskllama fastposted me

Actually, as a point of trivia, the town with the highest percentage of Jews in North America is Kiryas Joel, N.Y. which is run by the dynastic Satmar Clan. Here's some more info on them:

Teitelbaum's rabbinic authority and wealthy supporters in the United States made him the leader of the radical, anti-Zionist flank of the Orthodox Jewish world. He adopted a policy of utter non-recognition towards the State of Israel, banning his adherents residing there to vote in the elections or to affiliate in any way with the state's institutions. When he visited the country in 1959, a separate train was organized for him, with no Israeli markings. He and his successors routinely condemned the Agudah and its supporters for taking part in Israeli politics. As to Religious Zionism, the Satmar Rebbe described its chief theologian, Abraham Isaac Kook, as "a wicked adversary and enemy of our Holy Faith."

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Our issue is with the make-believe state called Israel, not Jewry. I also dislike Stouffer's microwavable Fetuccini Alfredo and refuse to buy it, even when Ralph's has a $2-off coupon. I also refuse to recognize Stouffer's microwavable Fetuccini Alfredo as legitimate Tuscan cuisine. None of this makes me Anti-Italian or Anti-Catholic.

Ultimately, people should have a right to engage in whatever bizarre hocus-pocus they want, no matter how weird.
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Re: Iran Deal - Better than Nothing

Postby saxitoxin on Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:36 pm

Matthew Dowd, Director of Strategy for Bush-Cheney 2004, sent this tweet:

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The most telling element of this entire deal was how AIPAC waited a day before lodging a reaction; a clever tactical move to avoid drawing attention to their diminished influence in DC. For the first time ever, they are on defense evidenced by the increasingly shrill hysterics coming from the paranoid corners of the Evangelical nutters and traitors. Is there really about to be a second American declaration of independence; independence from Zionism? It seems that, all over, second-tier policymakers like Dowd are dropping hints as to what is occurring in the minds of the first-tier policymakers who must be more guarded publicly until the American public can be de-programmed.
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