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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby jusplay4fun on Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:55 pm

Qwert wrote:note for everybody> winners dont commit crimes, winners dont kill civilians . These its old rule through entire human history , no mater who commit crimes .US. Europe ASia Africa Russia.
You can agree or disagree but these its facts.


History and the Record of who did what (commit crimes, kill civilians) is often written by the Victors. To the Victor belongs the spoils.

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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby jonesthecurl on Thu Apr 21, 2022 11:55 am

I haven't read that one, but 'Person of the Year' is not an accolade, it's an assessment of a person's influence on world events, which is why Hitler was once awarded it.
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby HitRed on Thu Apr 21, 2022 12:39 pm

http://content.time.com/time/specials/2 ... 57,00.html

The link is one of many sections. Interesting.

When this intense and brooding KGB agent took over as President of Russia in 2000, he found a country on the verge of becoming a failed state. With dauntless persistence, a sharp vision of what Russia should become and a sense that he embodied the spirit of Mother Russia, Putin has put his country back on the map. And he intends to redraw it himself.


Putin is not a boy scout. He is not a democrat in any way that the West would define it. He is not a paragon of free speech. He stands, above all, for stability—stability before freedom, stability before choice, stability in a country that has hardly seen it for a hundred years. Whether he becomes more like the man for whom his grandfather prepared blinis—who himself was twice TIME's Person of the Year—or like Peter the Great, the historical figure he most admires; whether he proves to be a reformer or an autocrat who takes Russia back to an era of repression—this we will know only over the next decade. At significant cost to the principles and ideas that free nations prize, he has performed an extraordinary feat of leadership in imposing stability on a nation that has rarely known it and brought Russia back to the table of world power.


http://content.time.com/time/specials/2 ... 79,00.html
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby bigtoughralf on Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:59 pm

HitRed wrote:Interview with Putin 2007

Reporter to Putin -Earlier you used the phrase Thou shalt not steal. Have you read the Bible?

Putin responds
Yes, I have.


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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby mookiemcgee on Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:03 pm

If Saxi's suddenly disappears in the near future I think we will all know why

https://www.newsweek.com/oligarchs-murd ... de-1699766
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby 69PutinRespector on Thu Apr 21, 2022 6:21 pm

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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby bigtoughralf on Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:19 am

mookiemcgee wrote:If Saxi's suddenly disappears in the near future I think we will all know why


He's been trafficked to Dubai and forced to join some sheikh's harem?
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby jusplay4fun on Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:10 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:If Saxi's suddenly disappears in the near future I think we will all know why

https://www.newsweek.com/oligarchs-murd ... de-1699766


pukin' putin is evil. PERIOD.

None of this is a surprise. Look what he did to others:

Alexander Litvinenko
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]He fled with his family to London and was granted asylum in the United Kingdom, where he worked as a journalist, writer and consultant for the British intelligence services. During his time in Boston, Lincolnshire, Litvinenko wrote two books, Blowing Up Russia: Terror from Within and Lubyanka Criminal Group, wherein he accused the Russian secret services of staging the Russian apartment bombings in 1999 and other acts of terrorism in an effort to bring Vladimir Putin to power. He also accused Putin of ordering the assassination of the Russian journalist Anna Politkovskaya in 2006.

On 1 November 2006, Litvinenko suddenly fell ill and was hospitalised after poisoning by polonium-210; he died from the poisoning on 23 November.[6] The events leading up to this are a matter of controversy, spawning numerous theories relating to his poisoning and death. A British murder investigation pointed to Andrey Lugovoy, a former member of Russia's Federal Protective Service (FSO), as the main suspect. Dmitry Kovtun was later named as a second suspect.[7] The United Kingdom demanded that Lugovoy be extradited, however Russia denied the extradition as the Russian constitution prohibits the extradition of Russian citizens, leading to a straining of relations between Russia and the United Kingdom.[8]


Still defiant: Russian dissident Navalny gets more jail time
Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny was sentenced to nine years in prison on charges of fraud, which Mr. Navalny says are politically motivated. The sentence comes as President Vladimir Putin carries out a broader crackdown on dissent.

https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2022/0322/Still-defiant-Russian-dissident-Navalny-gets-more-jail-time
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby jusplay4fun on Sat Apr 23, 2022 10:17 pm

HitRed wrote:http://content.time.com/time/specials/2007/personoftheyear/article/0,28804,1690753_1690757,00.html

The link is one of many sections. Interesting.

When this intense and brooding KGB agent took over as President of Russia in 2000, he found a country on the verge of becoming a failed state. With dauntless persistence, a sharp vision of what Russia should become and a sense that he embodied the spirit of Mother Russia, Putin has put his country back on the map. And he intends to redraw it himself.


Putin is not a boy scout. He is not a democrat in any way that the West would define it. He is not a paragon of free speech. He stands, above all, for stability—stability before freedom, stability before choice, stability in a country that has hardly seen it for a hundred years. Whether he becomes more like the man for whom his grandfather prepared blinis—who himself was twice TIME's Person of the Year—or like Peter the Great, the historical figure he most admires; whether he proves to be a reformer or an autocrat who takes Russia back to an era of repression—this we will know only over the next decade. At significant cost to the principles and ideas that free nations prize, he has performed an extraordinary feat of leadership in imposing stability on a nation that has rarely known it and brought Russia back to the table of world power.


http://content.time.com/time/specials/2 ... 79,00.html
Interview with Putin 2007

Reporter to Putin -Earlier you used the phrase Thou shalt not steal. Have you read the Bible?

Putin responds
Yes, I have.


he has performed an extraordinary feat of leadership in imposing stability on a nation that has rarely known it and brought Russia back to the table of world power.


And this justifies pukin's putin's wars in Syria, Chechnya, and now Ukraine? This excuses his killing of civilians and destroying their homes and businesses? This excuses reprehensible the atrocities committed by Russian troops in all these places? NO, and an EMPHATIC NO, in case anyone misses the point.

HitRed, what you quoted was written in 2007. What we NOW know, some 15 years later, are answers to the type of leader pukin' putin is: he is a despot and an evil tyrant, worse than some of the tyrannical Czars of Russia. He is cruel and his forces commit war crimes. The determined defiance of the brave people of Ukraine has shown the world what type of vile evil ruler putin is.

We now know the answer to "whether he proves to be a reformer or an autocrat who takes Russia back to an era of repression—this we will know only over the next decade" asked in your article that you cited. He is worse than repression mentioned as only a possibility. Stability in Russia does not justify any of putin's wars or atrocities or repression.
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby Qwert on Sun Apr 24, 2022 1:21 am

jusplay4fun wrote:
HitRed wrote:http://content.time.com/time/specials/2007/personoftheyear/article/0,28804,1690753_1690757,00.html

The link is one of many sections. Interesting.

When this intense and brooding KGB agent took over as President of Russia in 2000, he found a country on the verge of becoming a failed state. With dauntless persistence, a sharp vision of what Russia should become and a sense that he embodied the spirit of Mother Russia, Putin has put his country back on the map. And he intends to redraw it himself.


Putin is not a boy scout. He is not a democrat in any way that the West would define it. He is not a paragon of free speech. He stands, above all, for stability—stability before freedom, stability before choice, stability in a country that has hardly seen it for a hundred years. Whether he becomes more like the man for whom his grandfather prepared blinis—who himself was twice TIME's Person of the Year—or like Peter the Great, the historical figure he most admires; whether he proves to be a reformer or an autocrat who takes Russia back to an era of repression—this we will know only over the next decade. At significant cost to the principles and ideas that free nations prize, he has performed an extraordinary feat of leadership in imposing stability on a nation that has rarely known it and brought Russia back to the table of world power.


http://content.time.com/time/specials/2 ... 79,00.html
Interview with Putin 2007

Reporter to Putin -Earlier you used the phrase Thou shalt not steal. Have you read the Bible?

Putin responds
Yes, I have.


he has performed an extraordinary feat of leadership in imposing stability on a nation that has rarely known it and brought Russia back to the table of world power.


And this justifies pukin's putin's wars in Syria, Chechnya, and now Ukraine? This excuses his killing of civilians and destroying their homes and businesses? This excuses reprehensible the atrocities committed by Russian troops in all these places? NO, and an EMPHATIC NO, in case anyone misses the point.

HitRed, what you quoted was written in 2007. What we NOW know, some 15 years later, are answers to the type of leader pukin' putin is: he is a despot and an evil tyrant, worse than some of the tyrannical Czars of Russia. He is cruel and his forces commit war crimes. The determined defiance of the brave people of Ukraine has shown the world what type of vile evil ruler putin is.

We now know the answer to "whether he proves to be a reformer or an autocrat who takes Russia back to an era of repression—this we will know only over the next decade" asked in your article that you cited. He is worse than repression mentioned as only a possibility. Stability in Russia does not justify any of putin's wars or atrocities or repression.

Maybe if you interviewing Taliban they will say that Americans are evil?
Anyway i think right now that trial between Johnny Deep and Amber herd are much important then some war 10000 km away from US. According on comments after Johhny deep testimony , Amber are very evil person who its look use lies and physical torturing of Johnny Deep . A lot of attention are switch from boring conflict to exciting trial .
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby mookiemcgee on Sun Apr 24, 2022 10:56 am

FACTS right there. Putin may be compared by some to Hitler, but frankly Amber Heard has the edge right now.
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby jusplay4fun on Wed Apr 27, 2022 1:11 am

I will ignore the distractions above by Qwert; that is typical irrelevant and trivial input by Qwert, anyway.

Now for real news:

It's 7 a.m. in Kyiv. Here's what you need to know
As heavy fighting continues in eastern Ukraine, tensions are also rising in neighboring Moldova after a series of unexplained explosions in the breakaway region of Transnistria — prompting some to warn Russia may be eyeing the territory.

Here are the latest developments:

Kherson referendum: Many civilians are fleeing Kherson, located in southern Ukraine, ahead of what Ukrainian leaders have called a sham referendum staged by Russia. Kherson and its surrounding areas were the first to be taken by advancing Russian forces early in the war, and Russia now plans to hold a vote in the region to try to show popular support for the creation of a new entity called the Kherson People's Republic.

Fighting in the east: Russia is continuing efforts to surround Ukrainian forces in the east of the country, a Ukrainian presidential advisor said Tuesday. Heavy fighting is continuing in Donetsk and Luhansk, with Russian missile attacks having damaged a school, a hospital, and other civilian infrastructure, according to Donetsk officials.

Tensions in Transnistria: Ukrainian officials are claiming that a spate of unexplained attacks in and around neighboring Moldova suggest Russia may be trying to open a new front in the two-month war. In Transnistria, a breakaway territory in Moldova that isn't recognized internationally, there was a rocket attack on Monday and unexplained explosions on Tuesday -- leading the Moldovan president to call an emergency meeting of the country's security council.

Russian oil embargo: Russian energy giant Gazprom will shut off gas supplies to both Bulgaria and Poland's state-owned gas companies after the two countries refused to pay in rubles. Russia delivered an ultimatum last month for countries to pay their energy in rubles or risk being cut off from vital supplies.

The nuclear question: Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky warned that the carelessness of Russian troops who occupied the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant signals the danger of Russia using nuclear weapons. Also on Tuesday, British Prime Minister Boris Johnson said he does not expect Russia to use tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine.

Diplomatic efforts: United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres and Russian President Vladimir Putin met in Moscow on Tuesday for about an hour. Guterres will head to Ukraine later this week to meet Zelensky and the Ukrainian foreign minister. Meanwhile, the US State Department confirmed that some diplomats had temporarily returned to the Ukrainian city of Lviv on Tuesday.

Foreign aid: Germany has agreed to deliver anti-aircraft tanks to Ukraine, the first time it has provided this type of heavy weaponry during the war. Meanwhile, the US Defense Department has established a control center in Germany to coordinate shipments and “streamline the delivery” of military assistance to Ukraine.


https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-04-27-22/index.html


and more:

An ammunition depot in Russia's Belgorod region is on fire, regional governor says
From CNN's Paul P. Murphy, Josh Pennington and Hannah Ritchie

An ammunition depot is on fire in a rural village in Russia's Belgorod region, said regional governor Vyacheslav Gladkov on his Telegram Wednesday.

"According to preliminary information, an ammunition depot is on fire near the village of Staraya Nelidovka. No damage has been incurred by residential buildings and houses. There were no casualties among the civilians," Gladkov said.
Staraya Nelidovka is about 10 miles north of the Ukrainian border, and about 10 miles south of the city of Belgorod.

CNN cannot independently confirm that there were no casualties or damage to residential buildings.
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby HitRed on Wed Apr 27, 2022 7:16 am

Clearly Russia is losing troops but Putin doesn’t care. He doesn’t care about any loss: economic, political or military. Today he shut off the gas to Poland and Bulgaria. Natural gas is up 20% as of this morning. Last night it was 3%. SWIFT was easy for the West but in a war no one holds all the cards. Looks like a longer war.

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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby bigtoughralf on Wed Apr 27, 2022 8:04 am

HitRed wrote:Clearly Russia is losing troops but Putin doesn’t care.


Would your strategy be to launch an invasion and then cancel it as soon as your forces racked up 10 deaths?
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby thegroover on Wed Apr 27, 2022 10:30 am

HitRed wrote:Clearly Russia is losing troops but Putin doesn’t care. He doesn’t care about any loss: economic, political or military. Today he shut off the gas to Poland and Bulgaria. Natural gas is up 20% as of this morning. Last night it was 3%. SWIFT was easy for the West but in a war no one holds all the cards. Looks like a longer war.

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Cutting gas supplies to Bulgaria and Poland makes no odds. They are part of the EU so other countries will just slip them some. Its an empty action designed to scare the others into complying and paying with roubles. They wont.
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby jusplay4fun on Wed Apr 27, 2022 10:32 am

HitRed wrote:Clearly Russia is losing troops but Putin doesn’t care. He doesn’t care about any loss: economic, political or military. Today he shut off the gas to Poland and Bulgaria. Natural gas is up 20% as of this morning. Last night it was 3%. SWIFT was easy for the West but in a war no one holds all the cards. Looks like a longer war.

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I agree. I am not sure I will take your advice on my investments, however. :D
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby Dukasaur on Wed Apr 27, 2022 5:30 pm

bigtoughralf wrote:
HitRed wrote:Clearly Russia is losing troops but Putin doesn’t care.


Would your strategy be to launch an invasion and then cancel it as soon as your forces racked up 10 deaths?

When your strategy is predicated on a swift knockout blow and it doesn't work, it might be sensible to consider a negotiated peace.
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Russian peeping forces enter

Postby 2dimes on Wed Apr 27, 2022 5:54 pm

bigwarlordralp has pleanty of peasants to spread across the battlefield.
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby jusplay4fun on Wed Apr 27, 2022 8:00 pm

small-soft-Ralph has only CRAP to spread. And more than 10; it is a CRAP-Load of Crap. Pure Crap, too, i.e., a shitload of shit. :lol: =D>

And I like to paraphrase KoolBak when I discuss manure; that makes me feel and sound less intelligent. How KOOL is dat..??? :D :lol:

Russia has lost 15,000 troops since start of Ukraine invasion, says UK defence secretary – video

https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2022/apr/25/russia-has-lost-15000-troops-since-start-of-ukraine-invasion-says-uk-defence-secretary-video
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby HitRed on Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:07 pm

Russia demands (and gets) payments in rubles

Yea the link is biased but DeDollarization continues

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5acyWFeGJ20
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby Qwert on Thu Apr 28, 2022 1:37 pm

jusplay4fun wrote:I will ignore the distractions above by Qwert; that is typical irrelevant and trivial input by Qwert, anyway.

Now for real news:

It's 7 a.m. in Kyiv. Here's what you need to know
As heavy fighting continues in eastern Ukraine, tensions are also rising in neighboring Moldova after a series of unexplained explosions in the breakaway region of Transnistria — prompting some to warn Russia may be eyeing the territory.

Here are the latest developments:

Kherson referendum: Many civilians are fleeing Kherson, located in southern Ukraine, ahead of what Ukrainian leaders have called a sham referendum staged by Russia. Kherson and its surrounding areas were the first to be taken by advancing Russian forces early in the war, and Russia now plans to hold a vote in the region to try to show popular support for the creation of a new entity called the Kherson People's Republic.

Fighting in the east: Russia is continuing efforts to surround Ukrainian forces in the east of the country, a Ukrainian presidential advisor said Tuesday. Heavy fighting is continuing in Donetsk and Luhansk, with Russian missile attacks having damaged a school, a hospital, and other civilian infrastructure, according to Donetsk officials.

Tensions in Transnistria: Ukrainian officials are claiming that a spate of unexplained attacks in and around neighboring Moldova suggest Russia may be trying to open a new front in the two-month war. In Transnistria, a breakaway territory in Moldova that isn't recognized internationally, there was a rocket attack on Monday and unexplained explosions on Tuesday -- leading the Moldovan president to call an emergency meeting of the country's security council.

Russian oil embargo: Russian energy giant Gazprom will shut off gas supplies to both Bulgaria and Poland's state-owned gas companies after the two countries refused to pay in rubles. Russia delivered an ultimatum last month for countries to pay their energy in rubles or risk being cut off from vital supplies.

The nuclear question: Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky warned that the carelessness of Russian troops who occupied the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant signals the danger of Russia using nuclear weapons. Also on Tuesday, British Prime Minister Boris Johnson said he does not expect Russia to use tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine.

Diplomatic efforts: United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres and Russian President Vladimir Putin met in Moscow on Tuesday for about an hour. Guterres will head to Ukraine later this week to meet Zelensky and the Ukrainian foreign minister. Meanwhile, the US State Department confirmed that some diplomats had temporarily returned to the Ukrainian city of Lviv on Tuesday.

Foreign aid: Germany has agreed to deliver anti-aircraft tanks to Ukraine, the first time it has provided this type of heavy weaponry during the war. Meanwhile, the US Defense Department has established a control center in Germany to coordinate shipments and “streamline the delivery” of military assistance to Ukraine.


https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-04-27-22/index.html


and more:

An ammunition depot in Russia's Belgorod region is on fire, regional governor says
From CNN's Paul P. Murphy, Josh Pennington and Hannah Ritchie

An ammunition depot is on fire in a rural village in Russia's Belgorod region, said regional governor Vyacheslav Gladkov on his Telegram Wednesday.

"According to preliminary information, an ammunition depot is on fire near the village of Staraya Nelidovka. No damage has been incurred by residential buildings and houses. There were no casualties among the civilians," Gladkov said.
Staraya Nelidovka is about 10 miles north of the Ukrainian border, and about 10 miles south of the city of Belgorod.

CNN cannot independently confirm that there were no casualties or damage to residential buildings.

irrelevan and trivial??? are you nuts??
Do you know how news work, they need something interesting to hold audience, the war became to much boring for US public they dont care and Media see that , 2 month pass and they dont make profit from these news, just when i look on Live recommendation from youtube i get these results >. Johnny Deep trial 17 live... Ukraine war 2 live . There its no more live coverage on you tube of Ukraine war .
Heck even here in conquer club new post decrease drastically .
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby mookiemcgee on Thu Apr 28, 2022 2:11 pm

I hear Amber heard is a secret Russian spy.
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Re: Russian peacekeeping forces enter Ukraine

Postby Maxleod on Thu Apr 28, 2022 2:44 pm

Qwert wrote:irrelevan and trivial??? are you nuts??
Do you know how news work, they need something interesting to hold audience, the war became to much boring for US public they dont care and Media see that , 2 month pass and they dont make profit from these news, just when i look on Live recommendation from youtube i get these results >. Johnny Deep trial 17 live... Ukraine war 2 live . There its no more live coverage on you tube of Ukraine war .
Heck even here in conquer club new post decrease drastically .


There's still live coverage here:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk

Literally, live, and the front page, has been since that invasion began.
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