The Board of Canvassers of Wayne County, Michigan - which contains the city of Detroit - tonight refused to certify the results of the November 3 election.
"Based on what I saw and went through in poll books in this canvass, I believe that we do not have complete and accurate information in those poll books," she said.
In August, 72% of Detroit's poll books were found to be out of balance, a condition that precluded them from being used if a recount were requested. The issues prompted the state to send in additional help ahead of the general election, including veteran state elections official Thomas.
Detroit had problems with precinct count mismatches in the November 2016 election. Election officials couldn’t reconcile vote totals for 59% of precincts in the city during a countywide canvass of vote results with most of the issues involving too many votes.
Under Michigan law, all of Wayne County's records now have to be remanded to the Michigan Elections Commission who must decide by November 27 whether or not to certify them. If it determines the results are uncertifiable then the statewide results cannot be certified and the Senate and House of Representatives of Michigan are to convene and select, in joint session, the winner of the election from among the two persons receiving the greatest number of votes in the unofficial results.
Currently, the Michigan Legislature has 80 Republican members and 68 Democratic members. The two candidates receiving the greatest number of votes in the unofficial results are Donald J. Trump and Joseph Robinette Biden III.
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
If the Rats lose Michigan, we just need to sap an extra 21 votes from Biden to get him down to 269 votes. Then the Electoral College is dissolved and the House of Representatives can re-elect Donald Trump our 45th president!
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
saxitoxin wrote:The Board of Canvassers of Wayne County, Michigan - which contains the city of Detroit - tonight refused to certify the results of the November 3 election.
"Based on what I saw and went through in poll books in this canvass, I believe that we do not have complete and accurate information in those poll books," she said.
In August, 72% of Detroit's poll books were found to be out of balance, a condition that precluded them from being used if a recount were requested. The issues prompted the state to send in additional help ahead of the general election, including veteran state elections official Thomas.
Detroit had problems with precinct count mismatches in the November 2016 election. Election officials couldn’t reconcile vote totals for 59% of precincts in the city during a countywide canvass of vote results with most of the issues involving too many votes.
Under Michigan law, all of Wayne County's records now have to be remanded to the Michigan Elections Commission who must decide by November 27 whether or not to certify them. If it determines the results are uncertifiable then the statewide results cannot be certified and the Senate and House of Representatives of Michigan are to convene and select, in joint session, the winner of the election from among the two persons receiving the greatest number of votes in the unofficial results.
Currently, the Michigan Legislature has 80 Republican members and 68 Democratic members. The two candidates receiving the greatest number of votes in the unofficial results are Donald J. Trump and Joseph Robinette Biden III.
-------That's my county...Bad news Sax...Talib and other mob rule...Got them to punk out...Make a deal with the Sec. Of State...to audit the votes... ...and they agreed to certify Wayne's results...We shall see....But don't worry Sax...The Rebels are keeping a close eye on things... ...... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...
Michigan's Wayne County certifies election results in reversal of earlier decision
Election officials in Michigan’s largest county voted to certify election results on Tuesday night, ending a short-lived deadlock that could have delayed the state from confirming a victory for President-elect Joe Biden.
The Wayne County Board of Canvassers voted 4-0 to certify results. As part of the agreement, the board, which consists of two Republicans and two Democrats, asked Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson to audit the election process and pursue reforms to prevent discrepancies in the future, according to local reports.
The reversal came just hours after a previous vote resulted in a 2-2 deadlock along party lines. Republicans who initially voted against certification cited concerns related to absentee poll books in certain Detroit-area precincts that did not match.
Michigan's Wayne County certifies election results in reversal of earlier decision
Election officials in Michigan’s largest county voted to certify election results on Tuesday night, ending a short-lived deadlock that could have delayed the state from confirming a victory for President-elect Joe Biden.
The Wayne County Board of Canvassers voted 4-0 to certify results. As part of the agreement, the board, which consists of two Republicans and two Democrats, asked Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson to audit the election process and pursue reforms to prevent discrepancies in the future, according to local reports.
The reversal came just hours after a previous vote resulted in a 2-2 deadlock along party lines. Republicans who initially voted against certification cited concerns related to absentee poll books in certain Detroit-area precincts that did not match.
The Board reversed course and results have been certified.
Blue Wave Baby!
... from your linked article
“The Wayne County Board of Canvassers voted 4-0 to certify results. As part of the agreement, the board, which consists of two Republicans and two Democrats, asked Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson to audit the election process and pursue reforms to prevent discrepancies in the future, according to local reports.”
The initial vote was deadlocked along Party Lines. Apparently the Republicans on the Board tried to throw a wrench in the works... then the PEOPLE spoke and said “No our votes will count!”... and the scared Republicans backed down.
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They will fall by their own hand. They will slip and fall on their own devices. My will, will prevail over the enemy and all will be thrown into the fires of Hell. Their reward is who they seek, the leader of all evil, Satan. They will burn forever in the flames that are never quenched.
Mine is the kingdom of love not hate. My mercy flows eternally from my heart to all those who accept me as their Lord and Savior. My reign will be forever, never to end for those who will enjoy eternal life. I am the Son of Man begotten of Mary. A woman created to serve the eternal Son of the Father in ways no other could. I reach out to those with pure hearts to speak my words to those who do not hear: to read and take notice and heed.
I am King and Lord of all! I speak with one voice to all to seek the Kingdom of God and his righteousness over all else. There is nothing higher than to seek his righteousness for one’s self and for the world. I am one in the same who came down from Heaven to speak to many knowing only a few will heed and obey my words.
am just watching some fake news about it & apparently if it's it's close - within a 1/4% - the state would pay for a recount, but if it's more than that, team trump would have to put up the $$$ themselves, and, they'd have to pay it upfront - which would seem like a no go for them... . this is just getting ridiculous...
riskllama wrote:am just watching some fake news about it & apparently if it's it's close - within a 1/4% - the state would pay for a recount, but if it's more than that, team trump would have to put up the $$$ themselves, and, they'd have to pay it upfront - which would seem like a no go for them... . this is just getting ridiculous...
That sounds like Wisconsins rules. If it was .25% margin the state pays, if it's 1% or less a candidate can ask, but has to pay 3 million dollars to have it done.
In short it's 50 little countries right now that each have their own rules.
As Saxi has already alluded to though, the recount results themselves don't matter much because no one things the recount is going to change the results, the trumpians just want 'no official election winner' at certification time in enough states that neither biden nor trump reach 270 and no one wins. I think the only state where the % margin is really close enough that it could flip in a recount is GA, everywhere else it's just about trying to stop the state from certifying a winner before the deadline.
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WILLIAMS5232 wrote:
as far as dukasaur goes, i had no idea you were so goofy. i mean, you hate your parents so much you'd wish they'd been shot? just move out bro.
riskllama wrote:am just watching some fake news about it & apparently if it's it's close - within a 1/4% - the state would pay for a recount, but if it's more than that, team trump would have to put up the $$$ themselves, and, they'd have to pay it upfront - which would seem like a no go for them... . this is just getting ridiculous...
Recount costs and investigation / legal defense costs are two different things.
riskllama wrote:am just watching some fake news about it & apparently if it's it's close - within a 1/4% - the state would pay for a recount, but if it's more than that, team trump would have to put up the $$$ themselves, and, they'd have to pay it upfront - which would seem like a no go for them... . this is just getting ridiculous...
That sounds like Wisconsins rules. If it was .25% margin the state pays, if it's 1% or less a candidate can ask, but has to pay 3 million dollars to have it done.
In short it's 50 little countries right now that each have their own rules.
As Saxi has already alluded to though, the recount results themselves don't matter much because no one things the recount is going to change the results, the trumpians just want 'no official election winner' at certification time in enough states that neither biden nor trump reach 270 and no one wins. I think the only state where the % margin is really close enough that it could flip in a recount is GA, everywhere else it's just about trying to stop the state from certifying a winner before the deadline.
Trumpians may want that.. or think that’s possible... but it ain’t happening.
No State Office Holder is going to disenfranchise and piss off its’ own constituency like that.
I see the great destruction of your country. Those that work on the side of the enemy, the evil one, are hard at work to bring down this great country which was founded on me and my laws. Those who seek evil are greedy and lust for what they seek - power. This is all they think about and dream about - the power that they seek and lust for. In the end, it will not be enough to satisfy their hunger and lust.
They will fall by their own hand. They will slip and fall on their own devices. My will, will prevail over the enemy and all will be thrown into the fires of Hell. Their reward is who they seek, the leader of all evil, Satan. They will burn forever in the flames that are never quenched.
Mine is the kingdom of love not hate. My mercy flows eternally from my heart to all those who accept me as their Lord and Savior. My reign will be forever, never to end for those who will enjoy eternal life. I am the Son of Man begotten of Mary. A woman created to serve the eternal Son of the Father in ways no other could. I reach out to those with pure hearts to speak my words to those who do not hear: to read and take notice and heed.
I am King and Lord of all! I speak with one voice to all to seek the Kingdom of God and his righteousness over all else. There is nothing higher than to seek his righteousness for one’s self and for the world. I am one in the same who came down from Heaven to speak to many knowing only a few will heed and obey my words.
Go in peace and my mercy.
i really wish i could see your smile when you try to troll people this hard
riskllama wrote:am just watching some fake news about it & apparently if it's it's close - within a 1/4% - the state would pay for a recount, but if it's more than that, team trump would have to put up the $$$ themselves, and, they'd have to pay it upfront - which would seem like a no go for them... . this is just getting ridiculous...
That sounds like Wisconsins rules. If it was .25% margin the state pays, if it's 1% or less a candidate can ask, but has to pay 3 million dollars to have it done.
In short it's 50 little countries right now that each have their own rules.
As Saxi has already alluded to though, the recount results themselves don't matter much because no one things the recount is going to change the results, the trumpians just want 'no official election winner' at certification time in enough states that neither biden nor trump reach 270 and no one wins. I think the only state where the % margin is really close enough that it could flip in a recount is GA, everywhere else it's just about trying to stop the state from certifying a winner before the deadline.
It's actually about even more than that. If we're going to this much effort and spending $100 million to stop a slightly incompetent, milquetoast moderate, Republican-lite candidate like Biden, imagine what we'd do if the Democrats actually elected a candidate they wanted. This is about sending a message. Win or lose, the message has been delivered. You can choose cosmetic, moral victories like A Biden, or you can have no victories at all. But if you actually try to do something, we'll burn you to the ground, eat the ashes, shit them back out, piss on them, detonate a nuke, and bury them in a landfill. This is our house.
Pack Rat wrote:if it quacks like a duck and walk like a duck, it's still fascism
saxitoxin wrote:
It's actually about even more than that. If we're going to this much effort and spending $100 million to stop a slightly incompetent, milquetoast moderate, Republican-lite candidate like Biden, imagine what we'd do if the Democrats actually elected a candidate they wanted. This is about sending a message. Win or lose, the message has been delivered. You can choose cosmetic, moral victories like A Biden, or you can have no victories at all. But if you actually try to do something, we'll burn you to the ground, eat the ashes, shit them back out, piss on them, detonate a nuke, and bury them in a landfill.
The sad thing that diehard Trump Fans don’t realize...
They’re donating all this money to contest the election and getting all worked up for this... when the end result (and the result that Trump knows is coming) will simply be Trump being able to say “I didn’t REALLY lose, they stole it.”
You’re paying all this money and getting all worked up just so his ego isn’t hurt too badly and he can lick his wounds with his delusion.