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Re: ∴∵∴Glacier∴∵∴ (name subject to change)

Postby edbeard on Sat Aug 09, 2008 8:25 pm

snowbound? I don't like the idea of just taking a name from another game.

blizzard is ok but not great. like wca said, it implies snow flying around everywhere.

glacier is just wrong. at least it appears to be. I don't think there are any glaciers on the map itself.

snowstorm might work but it has the same problem as blizzard.

tundra feels apt. it's similar to oasis in that it describes a geographical area where the map is based. though for clarity's sake, calling it arctic tundra makes more sense.



I'd be more inclined to support blizzard or snowstorm if somehow it was included in the gameplay and/or the graphics of the map. Maybe piles of snow from the storm are used as impassable borders? And a shovel allows you to go through those areas! Ok maybe not that last bit.
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Re: ∴∵∴Glacier∴∵∴ (name subject to change)

Postby whitestazn88 on Sat Aug 09, 2008 8:27 pm

i think if you had a little like... white hazy coating over the whole map that made it look like it was snowing would make blizzard an apt title...
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Re: ∴∵∴Glacier∴∵∴ (name subject to change)

Postby pepperonibread on Sat Aug 09, 2008 8:31 pm

wcaclimbing wrote:
glacier wrote:an extended mass of ice formed from snow falling and accumulating over the years and moving very slowly, either descending from high mountains, as in valley glaciers, or moving outward from centers of accumulation, as in continental glaciers.

iceberg wrote:a large floating mass of ice, detached from a glacier and carried out to sea.

tundra wrote:one of the vast, nearly level, treeless plains of the arctic regions of Europe, Asia, and North America.

I think I'm most leaning towards glacier still. Tundra sounds too grey and boring and iceberg wouldn't work for this kind of map.


Glacier: A dirty, slow-moving slab of ice. But tundra is boring...
Kidding of course. But glacier doesn't seem to really make sense to me. Who would live on top of a glacier? I've never heard of any peoples who did or do that. Tundra is actually a climate were some people would stay, however deadly it might be to live there.
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Re: ∴∵∴Glacier∴∵∴ (name subject to change)

Postby ZeakCytho on Sat Aug 09, 2008 8:35 pm

Tundra gets my vote. I like the sound of it.
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Re: ~~~Glacier~~~ (name subject to change)

Postby bryguy on Sat Aug 09, 2008 8:47 pm

wcaclimbing wrote:
pepperonibread wrote:An alternative name I though of: Tundra.
Not sure if it's what you're going for, but maybe...


tundra wrote:one of the vast, nearly level, treeless plains of the arctic regions of Europe, Asia, and North America.

I don't remember my geography well enough. do tundras have snow on them? If they do, then that would be a good name.


basically as far as i know, a tundra is an area the is mostly snow, but has basically some splotches of life (plants) and maybe grass and such.



Also, only thing I have to say, is that it needs more mountainous terrain. I think you should have a large mountain in the top left or right corner, and have some other mountains (smaller) spread out around the map, mostly as impassables.
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Re: ∴∵∴Glacier∴∵∴ (name subject to change)

Postby wcaclimbing on Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:36 pm

Lots of new posts to comment on.
All my responses in RED font.


bspride wrote:why dont you name it snowbound? its from halo 3 if your wondering...but its a great name that i think would fit nicely That does sound like a nice name. Good idea.

hulmey wrote:i like the name snowbound rather than glacier. it gives it much more of ringing , mysterious feeling. Love the graphics WCA....

By far one of the most talented map makers at CC =D> =D> =D>
Thank you a lot :D


edbeard wrote:snowbound? I don't like the idea of just taking a name from another game.
I don't think that would be much of a problem. Blizzard is the company that made Warcraft, and Tundra is a type of Toyota car. Lots of names are being used by all kinds of companies. As long as there isn't anything to make people confuse this map with halo, snowbound might be ok.
blizzard is ok but not great. like wca said, it implies snow flying around everywhere.
glacier is just wrong. at least it appears to be. I don't think there are any glaciers on the map itself.

snowstorm might work but it has the same problem as blizzard.

tundra feels apt. it's similar to oasis in that it describes a geographical area where the map is based. though for clarity's sake, calling it arctic tundra makes more sense.
Not a big fan of names made of two words..... maybe.


I'd be more inclined to support blizzard or snowstorm if somehow it was included in the gameplay and/or the graphics of the map. Maybe piles of snow from the storm are used as impassable borders? And a shovel allows you to go through those areas! Ok maybe not that last bit.


whitestazn88 wrote:i think if you had a little like... white hazy coating over the whole map that made it look like it was snowing would make blizzard an apt title...
Maybe. At least the background on the map key could have snow on it (I'm setting it up same as Oasis, btw. with the landscape behind the text). The problem with putting anything white over the image is that the image is already very white. any more white and you wouldn't be able to see whats going on, you'd just have a square of white to look at.


pepperonibread wrote:Glacier: A dirty, slow-moving slab of ice. But tundra is boring...
Kidding of course. But glacier doesn't seem to really make sense to me. Who would live on top of a glacier? I've never heard of any peoples who did or do that. Tundra is actually a climate were some people would stay, however deadly it might be to live there. What you said about glacier makes sense to me. That probably wouldn't be a good name, espeically with the village and everything else that will be in this map eventually.


bryguy wrote:basically as far as i know, a tundra is an area the is mostly snow, but has basically some splotches of life (plants) and maybe grass and such.
ok. I'm not sure about adding grass, but it helps to know that.

Also, only thing I have to say, is that it needs more mountainous terrain. I think you should have a large mountain in the top left or right corner, and have some other mountains (smaller) spread out around the map, mostly as impassables.
There will be a mountain or two. The terrain to the left (which you can't see on this preview) will probably be more rough and mountainous than what you see now. I haven't put much thought into how to make the mountains, so I have no idea how they would work out.


First off, my apologies if I missed anything that I should have commented on. You guys posted a lot!
Regarding the map name, after reading everything you guys have posted, I think Glacier is the wrong name for this map.
Right now I am leaning most towards Snowbound or Tundra. Snowbound because it has a sort of mysterious feel to it, like Hulmey said. And it makes sense for the map, cause the village is surrounded by snow that you can't cross without getting hurt.
Tundra because it seems to be the most correct name, at least geographically, to describe whats on the map so far.
Snowstorm and Blizzard would probably be too difficult to work out. The image is already so light, any attempt to put fog or snow over the map would leave me with a white square. And you can't easily play risk on a white square. Still considering those two, I'm just not sure how I would work the name into the graphics.


Just did a bit of math, if we keep posting at this rate, we will be going at an unheard of 115 posts per day (give or take a few). Thats ridiculous :roll: 30 posts in just about 6 hours 15 minutes.
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Re: ∴∵∴Glacier∴∵∴ (name subject to change)

Postby whitestazn88 on Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:40 pm

i'm not sure it will keep up at that rate, especially since basically all everyone is doing is contemplating what you'll do... and at some point people will get bored of debating the merits of tundra over blizzard or whatever
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Re: ∴∵∴Glacier∴∵∴ (name subject to change)

Postby wcaclimbing on Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:44 pm

whitestazn88 wrote:i'm not sure it will keep up at that rate, especially since basically all everyone is doing is contemplating what you'll do... and at some point people will get bored of debating the merits of tundra over blizzard or whatever


I'll probably throw up some kind of poll soon. Whenever we get it worked down to a reasonable list of names.
Right now it is:
Glacier
Tundra
Snowbound
Snowstorm
Blizzard
Snowblind

I think Glacier has been voted off the list, though.
I'm not sure about Snowstorm or Blizzard, so I'll wait for a few more comments before making a poll, unless everyone agrees and we don't need a vote.

My vote is for Tundra or Snowbound, btw. I'm not sure which one yet.
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Re: ∴∵∴Glacier∴∵∴ (name subject to change)

Postby ZeakCytho on Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:55 pm

My vote still goes to Tundra.
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Re: ∴∵∴Glacier∴∵∴ (name subject to change)

Postby AndyDufresne on Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:07 pm

Hm, perhaps Snowblind.

Or less catchy names like: Frozen North, Ice Trek, Frost Fair.


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Re: ∴∵∴Glacier∴∵∴ (name subject to change)

Postby edbeard on Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:09 pm

I'm not saying using snowbound is a bad idea for that reason, wca. I just think it's lazy and unimaginative.

You don't like the double names but 'Winter [something]' could work too. Or just combine them for one name.


AndyDufresne wrote:Hm, perhaps Snowblind.

Or less catchy names like: Frozen North, Ice Trek, Frost Fair.


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yep. there's lots of cold words that can be used for the map. taking one from something else just feels like we didn't even think about it.
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Re: ∴∵∴Glacier∴∵∴ (name subject to change)

Postby sfhbballnut on Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:10 pm

Impressive image and another creative idea, love the story going with the map, as to gameplay, mines sound like a good idea, perhaps food stores, igloos(igloo is hokie, but I just mean snow shelter) or shelters as other bonuses. fire would look good in some of those places. As far as the name I'm a fan of Snowbound, and am rather against tundra, I see caribou and permafrosted grass lands when I think tundra, and snowbound is kinda cool. I'll keep an eye out here, good luck!

*snowblind also good*edit*
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Re: ∴∵∴Glacier∴∵∴ (name subject to change)

Postby wcaclimbing on Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:13 pm

Snowblind might work.
*adds to the list of possible names*

And another vote for Snowbound.

edbeard wrote:I'm not saying using snowbound is a bad idea for that reason, wca. I just think it's lazy and unimaginative.

You don't like the double names but 'Winter [something]' could work too. Or just combine them for one name.

A double name could work, as long as its something good. I'd like it if the name could stay short and simple. But if its a good name, I'm fine with it, even if its a bit longer.
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Re: ∴∵∴Glacier∴∵∴ (name subject to change)

Postby whitestazn88 on Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:15 pm

winterbourne?

i dunno, i just remember it as a name from the short story daisy miller i had to read during my summer classes... it could be interesting
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Re: ∴∵∴Glacier∴∵∴ (name subject to change)

Postby wcaclimbing on Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:20 pm

whitestazn88 wrote:winterbourne?

i dunno, i just remember it as a name from the short story daisy miller i had to read during my summer classes... it could be interesting

lol. I had to read that book a few years back also.
no thanks.
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Re: ∴∵∴Glacier∴∵∴ (name subject to change)

Postby whitestazn88 on Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:22 pm

it's quite a terrible story actually lol, but i dunno, just thought of the name,

still think blizzard is the one to go with though...
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Re: ∴∵∴Glacier∴∵∴ (name subject to change)

Postby edbeard on Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:23 pm

I'd rather see and know more about the map before deciding on a name too. You haven't really said too much about the gameplay or about what exactly the bonuses will be.

Right now all we really know is the story summary you gave and that bonuses will be smaller the closer they are to the center.

Instead of thinking of a cool name, let one come out from what the gameplay and image are.
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Re: ∴∵∴Glacier∴∵∴ (name subject to change)

Postby bspride on Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:40 pm

my votes for snowbound...makes the map feel very desolate...as if your stranded in a camp in the middle of nowhere kinda like your map...
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Re: ∴∵∴Glacier∴∵∴ (name subject to change)

Postby wcaclimbing on Sat Aug 09, 2008 11:58 pm

looks like Snowbound has the most support so far.
Its the name I'm leaning towards, also.
If you don't want it to be Snowbound, could you guys support one of the other names, or provide an alternate name?
Cause Snowbound is the favorite so far, I think.
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Re: ∴∵∴Glacier∴∵∴ (name subject to change)

Postby bryguy on Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:45 am

wcaclimbing wrote:looks like Snowbound has the most support so far.
Its the name I'm leaning towards, also.
If you don't want it to be Snowbound, could you guys support one of the other names, or provide an alternate name?
Cause Snowbound is the favorite so far, I think.


i have some thoughts for names!


Tundra
Snowbound
Icy-place-of-death :mrgreen:
Snowstorm
Yukon :mrgreen:
Tundra Oasis
Another Map by Wcaclimbing


okay so i got nothin....

i myself like Tundra and Snowbound, but i agree with ed that i would rather see/know more about the map before deciding on a name
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Re: ∴∵∴Glacier∴∵∴ (name subject to change)

Postby The Viking on Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:59 am

Someone mentioned adding igloos to the map.
How about an eskimo name?

For example 'Kaneq', which means frost in a certain eskimo language.


You could even expand on that idea and have some sort of eskimo theme, or something.
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Re: ∴∵∴Glacier∴∵∴ (name subject to change)

Postby whitestazn88 on Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:31 am

ice climbers!
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Re: ∴∵∴Glacier∴∵∴ (name subject to change)

Postby bryguy on Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:41 am

Frost
Frostbite
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i myself like Frostbite
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Re: ∴∵∴Glacier∴∵∴ (name subject to change)

Postby Androidz on Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:55 am

Maybe some firecamps along the way or tunnel paths protecting from the frostbite?

If you use Highbriges/Tunnel paths. It should probbably a much longer way to reach the bonuses but it will give you adventages?
Maybe it leads you to a secret Canyon/Shaft.
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Re: ∴∵∴Glacier∴∵∴ (name subject to change)

Postby sam_levi_11 on Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:07 am

snow name like snowbound

im sorry... :(
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