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Re: t-o-m

Postby cicero on Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:52 pm

cena-rules wrote:
Optimus Prime wrote:Alright folks,

According to the first post made by cena-rules, this thread is intended to be a discussion of why t-o-m was banned. It is not for discussing the legitimacy of whether other can post for a banned member, who is baiting who, and who should be banned next.

Get it on topic, or stay away.

The Lockerbots will start to roll if you don't get it back on track.

Regards, Optimus Prime



beat you to asking Im just not important enough to lock

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Can I just check, as OP, is that you requesting this thread be locked ?
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Re: t-o-m

Postby Fruitcake on Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:53 pm

cena-rules wrote:yeah it probably is paranoia but if you compare t-o-m to frop they are about equal and only one of them is posting in here


that's because t-o-m is permabanned.
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Re: t-o-m

Postby cena-rules on Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:54 pm

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cena-rules wrote:because we always seem to be picked up on everything unlike other people and clans

Because of course it has nothing to do with the behavior of multiple members of your clan? No, of course not. Don't be naive cena-rules, you know as well as everyone else here that several members of your clan can be listed as baiting, flaming, and being general nuisances across the forums.

If you can't open your eyes to see that, and to see that t-o-m was involved in all those things, it isn't the problem of the public at large. I never had issues with t-o-m at any point, he's a nice enough guy, and we even had a fun battle between ourselves after he challenge me to a game on my favorite map.

However, he did push the lines on many occasions, and he was warned as outlined by Twill. He suffered the consequences, and a "revolt" or "campaign" to get him reinstated simply isn't going to work. You know that, we all know that.


I know that but see my last post for an example

@fruitcake that my point
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Re: t-o-m

Postby LFAW on Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:55 pm

Frop, as you have shown many times before, you don't even have a brain cell capable of anything other then posting garbage.

I doubt anyone cares about your opinion nor gives a sh*t what you think about tom because quite frankly he was liked and you aren't.

Good day.

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Re: t-o-m

Postby timmytuttut88 on Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:55 pm

Fruitcake wrote:
cena-rules wrote:yeah it probably is paranoia but if you compare t-o-m to frop they are about equal and only one of them is posting in here


that's because t-o-m is permabanned.

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Re: t-o-m

Postby cena-rules on Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:56 pm

cicero wrote:
cena-rules wrote:
Optimus Prime wrote:Alright folks,

According to the first post made by cena-rules, this thread is intended to be a discussion of why t-o-m was banned. It is not for discussing the legitimacy of whether other can post for a banned member, who is baiting who, and who should be banned next.

Get it on topic, or stay away.

The Lockerbots will start to roll if you don't get it back on track.

Regards, Optimus Prime



beat you to asking Im just not important enough to lock

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Can I just check, as OP, is that you requesting this thread be locked ?


no that is me requesting it be locked if it keeps going off topic
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Re: t-o-m

Postby InkL0sed on Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:58 pm

Oh yes, by the way, out of curiosity: Where is the supposed straw that broke the camel's back? I saw no flaming or spamming from t-o-m recently.
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Re: t-o-m

Postby cena-rules on Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:59 pm

InkL0sed wrote:Oh yes, by the way, out of curiosity: Where is the supposed straw that broke the camel's back? I saw no flaming or spamming from t-o-m recently.

thats what I wanna know
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Re: t-o-m

Postby hecter on Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:59 pm

Optimus Prime wrote:
cena-rules wrote:because we always seem to be picked up on everything unlike other people and clans

Because of course it has nothing to do with the behavior of multiple members of your clan? No, of course not. Don't be naive cena-rules, you know as well as everyone else here that several members of your clan can be listed as baiting, flaming, and being general nuisances across the forums.

If you can't open your eyes to see that, and to see that t-o-m was involved in all those things, it isn't the problem of the public at large. I never had issues with t-o-m at any point, he's a nice enough guy, and we even had a fun battle between ourselves after he challenged me to a game on my favorite map.

However, he did push the lines on many occasions, and he was warned as outlined by Twill. He suffered the consequences, and a "revolt" or "campaign" to get him reinstated simply isn't going to work. You know that, we all know that.

So you'll readily admit to not doing what the greater community wants?

Note: I'm not saying that the greater community wants tom back. But, if the greater community did want him back and were part of a campaign to bring him back, that
Optimus Prime wrote:simply isn't going to work.
Kinda silly that the forum isn't here for the members but rather the people in power...
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Re: t-o-m

Postby timmytuttut88 on Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:00 pm

t-o-m even said some of his warnings are for having a signature too big. What are the other warnings for?
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Re: t-o-m

Postby Optimus Prime on Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:03 pm

hecter wrote:
Optimus Prime wrote:
cena-rules wrote:because we always seem to be picked up on everything unlike other people and clans

Because of course it has nothing to do with the behavior of multiple members of your clan? No, of course not. Don't be naive cena-rules, you know as well as everyone else here that several members of your clan can be listed as baiting, flaming, and being general nuisances across the forums.

If you can't open your eyes to see that, and to see that t-o-m was involved in all those things, it isn't the problem of the public at large. I never had issues with t-o-m at any point, he's a nice enough guy, and we even had a fun battle between ourselves after he challenged me to a game on my favorite map.

However, he did push the lines on many occasions, and he was warned as outlined by Twill. He suffered the consequences, and a "revolt" or "campaign" to get him reinstated simply isn't going to work. You know that, we all know that.

So you'll readily admit to not doing what the greater community wants?

Note: I'm not saying that the greater community wants tom back. But, if the greater community did want him back and were part of a campaign to bring him back, that
Optimus Prime wrote:simply isn't going to work.
Kinda silly that the forum isn't here for the members but rather the people in power...


hecter, have you ever seen a permabanned member returned to their previous status? I never have. I am simply stating a fact based upon what seems to be the prior practice of those who make those decisions. I am willing to be that t-o-m doesn't gain nearly as much support as Norse, xtratabasco, or many others who are now gone, but who knows I could be wrong. None of them were reinstated following their respective "revolutions" by their friends, were they?
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Re: t-o-m

Postby Fruitcake on Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:03 pm

LFAW wrote:Frop, as you have shown many times before, you don't even have a brain cell capable of anything other then posting garbage.

I doubt anyone cares about your opinion nor gives a sh*t what you think about tom because quite frankly he was liked and you aren't.

Good day.

LFAW


Sorry to disagree and all that, but actually I quite like Frop.

Back on topic, the facts are, t-o-m is on a permaban. It matters not whether he was liked loved, loathed or even laughed at. He broke the rules, he was warned, he ignored the warnings, he was banned. I fail to see any real validity to a contrary argument. Please remember, as a BpB member, I have recent recollection of our clan being on the receiving end of some pretty stern treatement not so long ago. However, we are all still here as a clan (well apart from one).
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Re: t-o-m

Postby cicero on Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:05 pm

Can we just take this to Live Chat so that we all don't have to be embarrassed (and bored) by others reading this and then feeling the need to contribute further and so perpetuating this whole 'discussion' ?

This is the wrong kinda teacup in my opinion.
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Re: t-o-m

Postby hecter on Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:06 pm

timmytuttut88 wrote:t-o-m even said some of his warnings are for having a signature too big. What are the other warnings for?

Better be careful fruitcake, your signature is currently 10 pixels to high. Owenshooters is also too high.
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Re: t-o-m

Postby timmytuttut88 on Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:13 pm

cicero wrote:Can we just take this to Live Chat so that we all don't have to be embarrassed (and bored) by others reading this and then feeling the need to contribute further and so perpetuating this whole 'discussion' ?

This is the wrong kinda teacup in my opinion.

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Re: t-o-m

Postby The Fuzzy Pengui on Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:14 pm

hecter wrote:
timmytuttut88 wrote:t-o-m even said some of his warnings are for having a signature too big. What are the other warnings for?

Better be careful fruitcake, your signature is currently 10 pixels to high. Owenshooters is also too high.

Their signatures are 500 by 125 pixels, perfectly in the 600 by 150 pixel limit. Now, last chance for everybody to keep this on topic or it's locked...
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Re: t-o-m

Postby freeroll84 on Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:16 pm

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Re: t-o-m

Postby Natewolfman on Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:17 pm

Im not surprised he got banned... i have nothing against tom at all, fun guy, but lately especially his commends have been consistantly on the wrong side of the CC law... all minor, but so many of them, my only surprise is that it wasnt done sooner :S
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Re: t-o-m

Postby hecter on Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:17 pm

The Fuzzy Pengui wrote:
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timmytuttut88 wrote:t-o-m even said some of his warnings are for having a signature too big. What are the other warnings for?

Better be careful fruitcake, your signature is currently 10 pixels to high. Owenshooters is also too high.

Their signatures are 500 by 125 pixels, perfectly in the 600 by 150 pixel limit. Now, last chance for everybody to keep this on topic or it's locked...

Great mod you are... With the text underneath, it brings fruitcakes signature to a grand total of 160 pixels. ownens I'm not sure... If you read the guidelines, it very clearly states...
Guidelines wrote:Signatures larger than 150 pixels high by 600 pixels wide just scream “I am compensating for something” and should be reduced in size. Note this size restriction includes all parts of the signature, i.e. all banners and all text. Here is a comparison box:

And who's been off topic? This is about somebody being banned, and we're talking about the reasons of such ban and the validity of said rules.
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Re: t-o-m

Postby owenshooter on Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:18 pm

hecter wrote:
timmytuttut88 wrote:t-o-m even said some of his warnings are for having a signature too big. What are the other warnings for?

Better be careful fruitcake, your signature is currently 10 pixels to high. Owenshooters is also too high.

t-o-m wasn't banned for his sig... nobody cares about the glaring spelling error in it, it is cute and amusing...-0

p.s.-i strongly agree with nate's last comments.
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Re: t-o-m

Postby Frop on Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:18 pm

LFAW wrote:Frop, as you have shown many times before, you don't even have a brain cell capable of anything other then posting garbage.

I doubt anyone cares about your opinion nor gives a sh*t what you think about tom because quite frankly he was liked and you aren't.

Good day.

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You've proven time and time again that you're not the most perceptive person around, so please allow me to remind you that I'm not particularly bothered whether or not people like me on a forum.

I would however like to urge you to seek professional help as you're clearly very much concerned with how people perceive you on the internet. You shouldn't be ashamed though, you are definitely not the only person who feels insecure about his/her sexuality.

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Re: t-o-m

Postby hecter on Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:19 pm

owenshooter wrote:
hecter wrote:
timmytuttut88 wrote:t-o-m even said some of his warnings are for having a signature too big. What are the other warnings for?

Better be careful fruitcake, your signature is currently 10 pixels to high. Owenshooters is also too high.

t-o-m wasn't banned for his sig... nobody cares about the glaring spelling error in it, it is cute and amusing...-0

p.s.-i strongly agree with nate's last comments.

No, but if somebody only got 8 warnings, two of which were for signature infractions, they shouldn't be permabanned.
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Re: t-o-m

Postby daydream on Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:20 pm

he got 4 previous bans, thats more than enough warning right there.
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Re: t-o-m

Postby owenshooter on Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:24 pm

hecter wrote:No, but if somebody only got 8 warnings, two of which were for signature infractions, they shouldn't be permabanned.

well, thankfully you are an admin and can correct this error... oh, wait... oops... seriously, twill outlined it pretty clearly, and i don't really think you can argue with his decision. he stated the reasons very clearly and concisely. t-o-m can still post in his clan forum and can still play games and can still order CC t-shirts from the CC Store, so he will be ok.-0
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Re: t-o-m

Postby timmytuttut88 on Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:26 pm

Some of the terrible things t-o-m did include!

•Rickrolling!
•Posting a C thread!
•Posting "I HATE Twill" threads after wicked was banned!
•Spam!
•Flaming outside of FW!
•Posting a picture of KLOBBER (come on though the guy was a dick)
•And the other stuff he cant remember since he cant look in his inbox

Out of all of these the only one that is serious would probably be the KLOBBER one (which he got a two week ban for). I don't think we'll ever know what got the perma-ban though...
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