Israel Plans to Restore Death Penalty for Everyone but Jews

[saxitoxin]

GENOCIDE UPDATE - JULY 30

Brave Israelis Attack Another UN School; Slaughter a Bunch More Children

Several Israeli tank shells slammed into a crowded UN school used as shelter for refugees in the Gaza war early on Wednesday, killing at least 15 people and wounding 90, a Palestinian health official and a UN official said.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/gaza-confl ... 60?cmp=rss

and, no, it wasn't a stray shell; they were just trying to kill kids, or as the Israeli government calls them, "little snakes" ...

Starting at around 4:30, several tank shells hit the school compound, a few minutes apart, said the school principal, Fayez Abu Dayeh. He said shells hit two classrooms and a bathroom.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/gaza-confl ... 60?cmp=rss

Israelis are among the world's bravest, most honorable soldiers.

Brave Israelis Trick Palestinian Civilians Into Going to Market - Bomb It

Israel declared a cease-fire and then, an hour later - after Palestinians desperate for food thought it was safe to go to a market to collect fruits and vegetables - bombed it.

International condemnation continues to mount towards Israel over its bombardment of the Gaza Strip, as the death toll rapidly rises following two strikes on Palestinian civilian areas on Wednesday. Despite the humanitarian ceasefire announcement, local reports emerged Wednesday evening that Israeli airstrikes hit a market and multiple homes in the neighborhood of Shujaiya at around 6pm. At least 33 people were killed, 17 of whom were in the market, and 200 injured. According to the Gaza Health Ministry, those dead included a local journalist and two paramedics.

According to initial reports on the scene, the shelling occurred as medics were still taking the dead and wounded to Al-Shifa hospital.

https://news.vice.com/article/airstrike ... -un-school

Mohammad Daif: "We only target Israeli soldiers."

Israel-backers say "Hamas" targets civilians.

Using UN figures, I previously pointed out that 90%+ fatalities the al-Qassam Brigades have inflicted have been military (compared to only 25% for Israel). And now an al-Qassam Brigades spokesman publicly states their only objectives are military targets. You are shown (1) the Palestinian forces publicly assert they only want to target military forces, and, (2) that the Palestinian forces have, in fact, followed through on their stated intentions, hitting military targets more than 3X more accurately than Israelis. At this point, anyone who still thinks "Hamas" is "targeting civilians" is simply a zombie; they will continue to believe "Hamas" is targeting civilians no matter what volume of evidence is shown to the contrary. They believe this because they think Arabs are barbarians and sub-human apes; they are incapable of thinking of Arabs as moral human beings.

The general commander of the Izzedin al-Qassam Brigades, the armed wing of the Palestinian movement Hamas, said that Gaza fighters are only targeting Israeli soldiers and have not sought to hurt civilians. - See more at: http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/top-h ... wnPti.dpuf

"Don't look at the facts! Look at me!" screams Anthony Weiner.

Newest Condemnations of Israel

Brazil - Ministry of Foreign Affairs Special Advisor for International Relations Marco Aurelio García:

For the love of God, what we have here is genocide, a massacre, to the point where top UN officials are starting to talk about war crimes.

Bestselling author Naomi Wolf

I mourn genocide in Gaza because I am the granddaughter of a family half wiped out in a holocaust and I know genocide when I see it.

Michael Ratner, president of the European Center for Constitutional and Human Rights

I want to emphasize today is these killings are part of a broader set of inhuman acts by Israel constituting international crimes, carried out by Israel over many years, going back to at least 1947 and 1948.

Israeli historian Ilan Pappé

Israel’s present assault on Gaza, alas, indicates that this policy continues unabated. The term [genocide] is important since it appropriately locates Israel’s barbaric action—then and now—within a wider historical context.

http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/describe- ... ocide.html



Most Ignorant Pro-Israel Rants

Progressive news site AlterNet details the 6 most ignorant pro-Israel celebrity rants from the 5 or 6 B-listers who support the terrorist state while everyone else is standing firm behind the #FreePalestine and #PrayforGaza hashtags. "You won't believe how ignorant these celebrity rants are!" AlterNet declares. Among them ...

5. Omri Casspi. The Israeli basketball player, formerly of the Houston Rockets, has used his public platform to defend the state he was born in.

“600 missiles been fired from GAZA by Hamas in the last 4 days. NUMBERS DONT LIE. STOP LYING,” he tweeted on July 12. That tweet came after his former teammate Dwight Howard sent out a message that read, “Free Palestine.”

http://www.alternet.org/world/6-most-ou ... page=0%2C1

Omri Casspi looks like a serial killer, but it's only confirmed he's a baby killer. (Casspi spent three years in a IDF cell.)

A-List Thespians Use Social Media to Draw Attention to Isra-hell

Meanwhile, the wonderful actor Mark Ruffalo (Shutter Island, Zodiac, The Avengers, etc.) has been alerting his million Twitter followers to each of Israel's atrocities. He is one of a growing number of A-list celebrities refusing to stay silent in the midst of the Palestinian holocaust.

[JPcelticfc]

A school sheltering refuges has been attacked. This is escalating and it makes me sick to the pit of my stomach. I feel very powerless to do anything and those with power seem content to let it continue. Bolvia has declared Israel a terrorist state, good on them.

You know, it takes a special type of pr**k to condone what Israel is doing. Anyone who supports them needs to take a long hard look at themselves.

[nietzsche]

Can we assume Israel has green light from USA and the UN to kill as many Palestinians as possible before they can't hold it no more due to global condemnation an intervene?

[saxitoxin]

Fantastic! As if Israeli Minister of Propaganda Mark Regev's thorough pummeling by the BBC couldn't get worse, someone translated his comments from Zionist to English ...

[a6mzero]

Israel existed as a country from around 1200 BC to 130 AD when they were finally crushed and dispersed by the Romans. I say they have a hell of a lot more legitmate claim to the land than a bunch of freaking goatherders who wandered onto the property.

[JPcelticfc]

Israel existed as a country from around 1200 BC to 130 AD when they were finally crushed and dispersed by the Romans. I say they have a hell of a lot more legitmate claim to the land than a bunch of freaking goatherders who wandered onto the property.

Jesus man what is wrong with you???? Are you completely and utterly morally dead? You are justifying the widespread killing of innocent children and civilians by citing an ancient country? Perhaps you think its ok to massacre the Palestinians as they are not humans but just goatherders, at least if you are racist I could understand were your misguided and corrupt viewpoint was coming from.

[JPcelticfc]

Just noticed you call the American Civil War the "War of Northern Aggression." That would explain alot about were you are coming from. Have fun polishing your new gun under your confederate flag, the rest of us will continue to live in a reasoned world.

[a6mzero]

Hamas embeds its rocket launchers in densely populated civilian areas. Civilians are going to pay the price for their leaderships choice of sites.The Qassam and gard rockets are very limited in accuracy.Therefore when launched at Israel they are indiscriminate in what they hit.This is illegal under international law. They also land or misfire on Palestinians which Hamas always blames on Israel. Journalists who do not toe the Hamas line are intimidated or deported by Hamas so it is difficult to ascertained the coverup of their own screw-ups.

[saxitoxin]

Israel existed as a country from around 1200 BC to 130 AD when they were finally crushed and dispersed by the Romans. I say they have a hell of a lot more legitmate claim to the land than a bunch of freaking goatherders who wandered onto the property.

Interesting bible thumping, but you've just asserted the Shoa was perfectly reasonable since Germanic peoples lived in Central Europe a thousand years prior to the arrival of Jews. No sane person accepts that utterly bizarre reasoning, nor would they accept yours. Nor would they accept biggotted screeds like calling Arabs "freaking goatherders" or African-Americans the "N word." Reported for extreme racism.

[JPcelticfc]

Hamas embeds its rocket launchers in densely populated civilian areas. Civilians are going to pay the price for their leaderships choice of sites.The Qassam and gard rockets are very limited in accuracy.Therefore when launched at Israel they are indiscriminate in what they hit.This is illegal under international law. They also land or misfire on Palestinians which Hamas always blames on Israel. Journalists who do not toe the Hamas line are intimidated or deported by Hamas so it is difficult to ascertained the coverup of their own screw-ups.

So the UN Hospital hit had rockets? What about the school that was hit today that sheltered refugees? or the beach the 4 boys were playing on? Yes I agree the rockets Hamas have are terrible, for the duration of this conflict, considering the many thousands of rockets Hamas have launched, they have killed a grand total of 3 people. The death of those 3 people should not have happened.

However what Hamas has done pales in significance to what Israel are doing. The phrase "terrorist organisation" or "terrorist war machine" is seemingly being used to justify any action. What about the terror Israel inflicts daily on Palestine? Are the people living in Gaza under near constant bombardment not being terrorized?

Just for comparison, unlike Hamas's rockets, the IRA's bombs actually hit targets, and killed civilians as well as military targets both in NI and Britain. Would that have given Britain the right to indiscriminately bomb West Belfast, Crossmaglen and other republican areas?

Where is your evidence that journalists are being intimidated by Hamas? Any journalist that was brave enough could freely travel through Gaza if they could avoid Israeli bombs.

To be honest I find your aberrant viewpoint quite disgusting.

[a6mzero]

I didn't say the goatherders were Arabs u fucking little can dish it out but can't take it schoolboy hall monitor.U call the obliteration of a whole country u fucking racist. Report my ass Mr.Hypocrite. U suck.

[TeeGee]

OK, I think I have seen enough.
There are more reports from this thread alone than the entire rest of the forum, you guys report a post and then do the exact same thing.

It is one thing to disagree on a topic and post a rational debate, but it is another to abuse an individual because they disagree with you.

LOCKED

[EBConquer]

We need to bring this thread back... it was really good. (no name calling in the heat of the moment though)

[universalchiro]

Where's my 10ft pole?

This conflict could spark armegeddon, especially if Israel gives up land for global approval to rebuild temple on the temple mount. Rev 11:1-2 talks about measuring for the new temple, but it says don't measure the outer court for it has been handed over to the nations/Gentiles.
Well there is a Muslim Mosque (Gentiles) that dwells in the outer court. I've been in it and Rabbis say the mosque is in the outer court, which leaves plenty of room for the temple to be built in the inner court next to it.
These are crazy times, but if this scenario plays out, then move my post to 'Messiah Coming topic.

[oVo]

The insanity of the region is much wider than the Middle East. Israel holds all the cards and though their military superiority may provide them some security, continuing to behave like they are certainly won't bring about any form of peace anytime soon.

[TeeGee]

Hope everyone can keep a cool head and debate this rationally.

Remember just because somebody disagrees with you, it does not make there view wrong.

Unlocking and merging with EB's thread.

[saxitoxin]

Outrage as Son of Auschwitz Survivors Arrested Protesting Israel!

Dr. Norman Finkelstein, whose parents were Auschwitz survivors, was arrested today for blocking the street in front of Israel's spy headquarters in New York (AKA "Israeli consulate") in solidarity with the Gazan people and - in contrast to those who join the IDF - as a loyal American citizen. (The U.S. Government Accountability Office reported that duplicitous Israel spies on the U.S. more than any other "ally" and that wicked Israel sells American military tech it steals to China, which may be used to kill U.S. soldiers in a future conflict.)

http://www.democracynow.org/blog/2014/7 ... s_arrested



Finkelstein, who holds a doctorate from Princeton in political science, is the author of the "The Holocaust Industry" which chronicles how the Israeli-Industrial Complex leverages, markets, and capitalizes on the holocaust to score big wins in arms sales to line the pockets of its corrupt political leadership while howling "Anti-Semitism!" to silence opponents and maximize revenue, encouraging its sycophants to engage in the same name calling. After his book was published, Israel banned him from entering the country (nice "Jewish Homeland" that doesn't let Jews enter) ...

[Dukasaur]

Nothing wrong with banning a traitor -- especially one who shames the name of his parents by siding with the enemies of his parents' people.

[saxitoxin]

Nothing wrong with banning a traitor --

Who are you, George Wallace? I thought Loyalty to Race was replaced with Loyalty to Nation by thinking people.

According to Dukasaur, if Latvia or whatever eastern European cesspool his forebearers originated from asked him to steal Canadian military secrets so they could sell them to China for some quick cash, he'd say "when do you need them by?" He'd gladly shove Canada off a cliff for the glory of the Latvian race. Canada's just a place to put his shit. It's not really a nation for him, it's more of a storage locker.

the enemies of his parents' people

I feel like I'm reading the script from Conan the Barbarian every time I see the so-called "reasoning" of a Zionist. They're just consumed by hate. It's so sick.

[BigBallinStalin]

Nothing wrong with banning a traitor -- especially one who shames the name of his parents by siding with the enemies of his parents' people.

Apparently, you don't give a shit about freedom of speech--nor even basic criticism. This is odd since one of the foundations of a real democracy is freedom of speech and rule of law. You need feedback in order for government to better reflect its peoples' wants. Punishing critical feedback of a government is simply egregious and unjustifiable.

What is it with some people? They focus exclusively on one side of a conflict and then go all up in arms. It's similar to the 'rally around the flag' effect where people discard liberties in exchange for more perceived security (or in this case, security for some favored group).


RE: the 2nd part, seriously? "Enemies of his parents' people"? Take off your nationalist glasses and start thinking. Do you not see any resemblance between the Gaza siege and the Nazi Germans shoving Jews into ghettos? How about the Israeli soldiers asking a certain kind of people for their papers? Wow, do you really not understand the degree of oppression the Palestinians have been enduring?

[saxitoxin]

For those who still think Israel cares at all about Palestinian civilians or is actually trying to avoid mass casualties or engage in a targeted operation (with a handful of bombs just falling astray), here is a time skip video from Al Arabiya television showing just the neighborhood of Beit Hanoun, where 22,000 people live, over the course of a single 60-minute period (from 4:00 p.m. to 5:00 p.m.).



If you still don't think this is a planned genocide then you're a rube. I expect Palestinians will always remember 25 July, the day of the massacre of Beit Hanoun. A massacre that took place with American-made weapons. America needs to fortify its borders as tight as possible over the next decade and basically scrap the entire Bill of Rights because I'm sure a 25 July Movement is already forming among whatever teenagers survived this onslaught and are now picking their way out of the rubble. Either that or immediately extradite Ted Cruz and Barack Obama. Those are the two ways Americans can keep themselves safe from the bed Israel just made for them.

[saxitoxin]

Some Israeli soldiers are reporting their commanders have instructed them to have their way with Palestinian civilians; to kill, rape, and loot whatever amuses them. This is consistent with Israeli lawmaker Ayelet Shaked's call for total extermination of all Palestinians “including its elderly and its women" and it's "little snakes" (children).

An Israeli soldier has published accounts of Israeli soldiers being authorized by their commanders to carry out revenge attacks against civilians in the Gaza Strip “to enable the soldiers to take out their frustrations and pain at losing their fellow soldiers”.

Eran Efrati reports, “Soldiers in two different units inside Gaza leaked information about the murdering of Palestinians by sniper fire in Shuja’eyya neighborhood as punishment for the death of soldiers in their units. After the shooting on the Israeli armored personnel carriers, which killed seven soldiers of the Golani Brigade, the Israeli army carried out a massacre in Shuja’eyya neighborhood.

http://www.imemc.org/article/68658

sounds familiar -

Lidice ... was completely destroyed by German forces in reprisal for the assassination, in Operation Anthropoid, of Reich Protector Reinhard Heydrich in the late spring of 1942.

All men of the village were rounded up and taken to the farm of the Horák family on the edge of the village. Mattresses were taken from neighbouring houses where they were stood up against the wall of the Horáks' barn. The shooting of the men commenced at about 7.00 am. At first the men were shot in groups of five, but Böhme thought the executions were proceeding too slowly and ordered that ten men be shot at a time. The dead were left lying where they fell. This continued until the afternoon hours when there were 173 dead. The furore over Lidice caused some hesitation over the fate of the remaining children. However, in late June Adolf Eichmann ordered the massacre of the remainder of the children.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lidice

[targetman377]

saxi i am sure the palistinans have done nothing wrong in your eyes.. just as the people who say isreal is only defending itself the sad truth is that both sides commit atrositys and the only way out of this sad cycle of violence that has taken hold in the middle east for centrys is simple.. both sides must stop not just isreal plasinans to.. they must forget the past and live in peace. an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

[patches70]

The Times of Israel news site had a rather interesting blog up not too long ago. As in a few hours ago. That blog post no longer appears. Luckily, we have access to the Way Back machine and we can grab the screen shot of what was there-




Yep, I guess I can see why it was taken down. The author has just apologized for the blog however. So I guess no harm no foul. The blog of course is doing what it's title says, justifying genocide.

The author, Yochanan Gordon, goes into why genocide of Palestinians is permissible.

The story was shared the world over the moment it got posted and even though it has been taken down and the author has apologized, I doubt that will do much to help Israel's case.

So what say you all? Is Genocide of the Palestinians permissible?

[BigBallinStalin]

saxi i am sure the palistinans have done nothing wrong in your eyes.. just as the people who say isreal is only defending itself the sad truth is that both sides commit atrositys and the only way out of this sad cycle of violence that has taken hold in the middle east for centrys is simple.. both sides must stop not just isreal plasinans to.. they must forget the past and live in peace. an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

Unfortunately, it's not that simple. Consider the credible commitment problem.

Without any stronger organization to enforce an agreement or without any strong enough moral incentive to continue abiding by the agreement, either side can renege on the agreement. For example, if Israel agrees to end its settlement program under (let's say) some UN resolution, but then they resume expanding their settlement program, what actually will stop Israel?

Not the UN. Not the US. And, not the Palestinians (who aren't strong enough). The others aren't willing enough--especially the US.

This conflict will end when either Israel has utterly demolished the governmental institutions of all Palestinians and have incorporated them into the Israeli state as second class citizens, or when the Palestinians somehow stop Israel from expanding and from using further violence. Nuclear weapons have proven effective in preventing organizations from directly attacking each other, so there's that option. There's also being a dominant force, which the Palestinians have no soon hope of achieving.

There may be an international response that's somehow strong enough to stop Israel from being aggressive and expansionary, but I've yet to see it. When you're backed by the US, you've got a free hand to crush as you please.