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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby osok68 on Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:48 am

how about everybody can donate their credits and offering new players premiumship from those credits?i know its not possible yet,but can this be programmed?i am willing to donate...
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Kevi on Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:06 am

Kevi wrote:Last night I had dream. But I don't think it was and it really happened.

I was playing and the site kept going down and when I got back in - in the early hours, there was a newly designed home page and it said something like "Play with 600,000 players" and then the site went down again and it was gone.

Maybe it was somebody else's dream - did anyone else see it?


I didn't dream it - I just saw it again - and I know I'm not dreaming now.

I've just hooked up a new computer and entered the site via google - and it's there - at the bottom of the page.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Butters1919 on Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:23 am

Kevi wrote:
Kevi wrote:Last night I had dream. But I don't think it was and it really happened.

I was playing and the site kept going down and when I got back in - in the early hours, there was a newly designed home page and it said something like "Play with 600,000 players" and then the site went down again and it was gone.

Maybe it was somebody else's dream - did anyone else see it?


I didn't dream it - I just saw it again - and I know I'm not dreaming now.

I've just hooked up a new computer and entered the site via google - and it's there - at the bottom of the page.


That statement has been there for quite some time. I think since when Big Wham took over, perhaps before? It's a statement of approximately how many people have ever signed up for the site, regardless of their current activity. It includes those people that sign up, linger for a minute, then never return. It's a huge misrepresentation that may turn people off of the site once they register and realize that there are only 7000 active members (and falling) as apposed to over the half a million that are advertised on the main page.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby rockfist on Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:25 am

Maybe this has been asked and answered before, but:

What is a sustainable size for CC that would make the site viable on a continued basis and can we keep above that level? Maybe some shrinkage is inevitable, but if say 4,000 was sustainable and enough to keep the site running, can it be maintained above 4,000?

Everyone has this notion that to be worth anything something has to be growing. That's not true. How much would a thousand dollars a day each day, but reducing by $1 per day be worth? Hint if its zero I'll pay you zero right now for that income stream?
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Dukasaur on Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:01 pm

Butters1919 wrote:
Kevi wrote:
Kevi wrote:Last night I had dream. But I don't think it was and it really happened.

I was playing and the site kept going down and when I got back in - in the early hours, there was a newly designed home page and it said something like "Play with 600,000 players" and then the site went down again and it was gone.

Maybe it was somebody else's dream - did anyone else see it?


I didn't dream it - I just saw it again - and I know I'm not dreaming now.

I've just hooked up a new computer and entered the site via google - and it's there - at the bottom of the page.


That statement has been there for quite some time. I think since when Big Wham took over, perhaps before? It's a statement of approximately how many people have ever signed up for the site, regardless of their current activity. It includes those people that sign up, linger for a minute, then never return. It's a huge misrepresentation that may turn people off of the site once they register and realize that there are only 7000 active members (and falling) as apposed to over the half a million that are advertised on the main page.

It's the same way almost all gaming sites count users. Unless the person is brand new to the Internet, they won't consider this a misrepresentation.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Butters1919 on Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:05 pm

Dukasaur wrote:It's the same way almost all gaming sites count users. Unless the person is brand new to the Internet, they won't consider this a misrepresentation.


Fair point, but that doesn't mean this site has to follow stupid practices just because other sites do. Although in the past year, stupid practices are the norm, so, I'll let it be.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby TeeGee on Mon Jun 13, 2016 6:17 pm

Kevi wrote:
Kevi wrote:Last night I had dream. But I don't think it was and it really happened.

I was playing and the site kept going down and when I got back in - in the early hours, there was a newly designed home page and it said something like "Play with 600,000 players" and then the site went down again and it was gone.

Maybe it was somebody else's dream - did anyone else see it?


I didn't dream it - I just saw it again - and I know I'm not dreaming now.

I've just hooked up a new computer and entered the site via google - and it's there - at the bottom of the page.


We actually now have over 750,000 registered players. :shock:
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby riskllama on Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:32 pm

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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby riskllama on Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:34 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
Butters1919 wrote:
Kevi wrote:
Kevi wrote:Last night I had dream. But I don't think it was and it really happened.

I was playing and the site kept going down and when I got back in - in the early hours, there was a newly designed home page and it said something like "Play with 600,000 players" and then the site went down again and it was gone.

Maybe it was somebody else's dream - did anyone else see it?


I didn't dream it - I just saw it again - and I know I'm not dreaming now.

I've just hooked up a new computer and entered the site via google - and it's there - at the bottom of the page.


That statement has been there for quite some time. I think since when Big Wham took over, perhaps before? It's a statement of approximately how many people have ever signed up for the site, regardless of their current activity. It includes those people that sign up, linger for a minute, then never return. It's a huge misrepresentation that may turn people off of the site once they register and realize that there are only 7000 active members (and falling) as apposed to over the half a million that are advertised on the main page.

It's the same way almost all gaming sites count users. Unless the person is brand new to the Internet, they won't consider this a misrepresentation.

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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Butters1919 on Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:02 pm

7004.

Sigh. I thought we had stabilized at around 7500. Guess not.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby xroads on Sat Jun 25, 2016 8:24 am

and there is it, 6999.

400 players gone in the last 5 weeks alone.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Kevi on Sat Jun 25, 2016 12:30 pm

xroads wrote:and there is it, 6999.

400 players gone in the last 5 weeks alone.



I didn't know that owen had that many multis :roll:
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby riskllama on Sat Jun 25, 2016 1:35 pm

xroads wrote:and there is it, 6999.

400 players gone in the last 5 weeks alone.

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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby DirtyDishSoap on Sat Jun 25, 2016 4:30 pm

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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Beast Of Burson on Sat Jun 25, 2016 6:00 pm

It will keep declining until the owner gets off his ass and becomes active in the topics in the forums.

I personally don't play multiple player games with more than 4 players because I don't want to wait a fucking month to play 1 turn.
The good ole boy system is for all the high rankers to eliminate lower ranks as not to lose points, therefore making it virtually impossible to gain rank for new players.

The C&A reports:... LMAO. When somebody new makes a report, and it doesn't matter if they are here 1 day or 1 month, all you pin headed retards start talking trash to them making a big fucking joke out of their report. Yeah, that'll get people to love this site. Shows new comers that they are not welcome.

They way you fuckheads argue and act stupid towards each other in the forums isn't gonna help either. I say you all grow the f*ck up and act like mature individuals instead of a bunch of playground bullies.

You try to force people into paying for this dump. If you are freemium, you get very little options for your whopping 4 games you get to play. Therefore, all you see is a bunch of fucking volunteers given free rank to push the agenda of buying premium when you know damn well, that money never goes back into the site to upgrade it.

The biggest thing is.... the owner NOT being involved in discussions. People don't want to here a bunch of rhetoric and smoke and mirrors bullshit from his fucking minions. We need to hear from the owner himself. But I think he doesn't give a rats ass. He thinks he's gonna become a millionaire off this site by standing by doing nothing to calm the masses.

I don't see CC lasting another 10 years. With lazy ownership comes a failed business. That's true in any business that is out there. Not just antiquated websites.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby iAmCaffeine on Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:14 am

Beast Of Burson wrote:It will keep declining until the owner gets off his ass and becomes active in the topics in the forums.

How would the owner spending time shitposting in the forums instead of developing be so beneficial? You think that because the admin starts posting in the forums that loads of new members will join and/or return?

Beast Of Burson wrote:I personally don't play multiple player games with more than 4 players because I don't want to wait a fucking month to play 1 turn.
The good ole boy system is for all the high rankers to eliminate lower ranks as not to lose points, therefore making it virtually impossible to gain rank for new players.

Typical conspiracy theory from a bad player. If you join escalating games of 8+ players with a table that isn't stupid, you'll find nobody makes kills until it's for the win.

Beast Of Burson wrote:The C&A reports:... LMAO. When somebody new makes a report, and it doesn't matter if they are here 1 day or 1 month, all you pin headed retards start talking trash to them making a big fucking joke out of their report. Yeah, that'll get people to love this site. Shows new comers that they are not welcome.

Most of the time people just "fix" the report. It's rare that every person who makes a report becomes the subject of trash talk.

Beast Of Burson wrote:They way you fuckheads argue and act stupid towards each other in the forums isn't gonna help either. I say you all grow the f*ck up and act like mature individuals instead of a bunch of playground bullies.

You sound like you've really grown the f*ck up mate, well done.

Beast Of Burson wrote:You try to force people into paying for this dump. If you are freemium, you get very little options for your whopping 4 games you get to play. Therefore, all you see is a bunch of fucking volunteers given free rank to push the agenda of buying premium when you know damn well, that money never goes back into the site to upgrade it.

How often do you see volunteers pushing free players to upgrade? Please provide evidence. Premium itself is very cheap, especially compared to costs of other online games. It's rather atypical for non-purchasing users to have less available to them than those who do pay. Online games nowadays often have extras that you have to pay for individually; thankfully, CC does not.

Beast Of Burson wrote:The biggest thing is.... the owner NOT being involved in discussions. People don't want to here a bunch of rhetoric and smoke and mirrors bullshit from his fucking minions. We need to hear from the owner himself. But I think he doesn't give a rats ass. He thinks he's gonna become a millionaire off this site by standing by doing nothing to calm the masses.

I don't see CC lasting another 10 years. With lazy ownership comes a failed business. That's true in any business that is out there. Not just antiquated websites.

The current owner posted announcements in the Dispatch and tried to keep the general forum community updated on what he was working on and what we could expect. As a result he received a load of smack talk, criticism and suchlike, so he decided to focus his time on development instead.

If this place is really so bad why are you still here? You'll be talking about premium dice next.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby riskllama on Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:27 pm

iAmCaffeine wrote:
Beast Of Burson wrote:It will keep declining until the owner gets off his ass and becomes active in the topics in the forums.

How would the owner spending time shitposting in the forums instead of developing be so beneficial? You think that because the admin starts posting in the forums that loads of new members will join and/or return?

Beast Of Burson wrote:I personally don't play multiple player games with more than 4 players because I don't want to wait a fucking month to play 1 turn.
The good ole boy system is for all the high rankers to eliminate lower ranks as not to lose points, therefore making it virtually impossible to gain rank for new players.

Typical conspiracy theory from a bad player. If you join escalating games of 8+ players with a table that isn't stupid, you'll find nobody makes kills until it's for the win.

Beast Of Burson wrote:The C&A reports:... LMAO. When somebody new makes a report, and it doesn't matter if they are here 1 day or 1 month, all you pin headed retards start talking trash to them making a big fucking joke out of their report. Yeah, that'll get people to love this site. Shows new comers that they are not welcome.

Most of the time people just "fix" the report. It's rare that every person who makes a report becomes the subject of trash talk.

Beast Of Burson wrote:They way you fuckheads argue and act stupid towards each other in the forums isn't gonna help either. I say you all grow the f*ck up and act like mature individuals instead of a bunch of playground bullies.

You sound like you've really grown the f*ck up mate, well done.

Beast Of Burson wrote:You try to force people into paying for this dump. If you are freemium, you get very little options for your whopping 4 games you get to play. Therefore, all you see is a bunch of fucking volunteers given free rank to push the agenda of buying premium when you know damn well, that money never goes back into the site to upgrade it.

How often do you see volunteers pushing free players to upgrade? Please provide evidence. Premium itself is very cheap, especially compared to costs of other online games. It's rather atypical for non-purchasing users to have less available to them than those who do pay. Online games nowadays often have extras that you have to pay for individually; thankfully, CC does not.

Beast Of Burson wrote:The biggest thing is.... the owner NOT being involved in discussions. People don't want to here a bunch of rhetoric and smoke and mirrors bullshit from his fucking minions. We need to hear from the owner himself. But I think he doesn't give a rats ass. He thinks he's gonna become a millionaire off this site by standing by doing nothing to calm the masses.

I don't see CC lasting another 10 years. With lazy ownership comes a failed business. That's true in any business that is out there. Not just antiquated websites.

The current owner posted announcements in the Dispatch and tried to keep the general forum community updated on what he was working on and what we could expect. As a result he received a load of smack talk, criticism and suchlike, so he decided to focus his time on development instead.

If this place is really so bad why are you still here? You'll be talking about premium dice next.

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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Beast Of Burson on Sun Jun 26, 2016 2:19 pm

Gee, maybe this is a problem? 29% approval rating out of 7 posts!
https://www.sitejabber.com/reviews/www.conquerclub.com

The one that stands out to me is the one about the 13 year old. :shock:
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby iAmCaffeine on Sun Jun 26, 2016 2:23 pm

Beast Of Burson wrote:Gee, maybe this is a problem? 29% approval rating out of 7 posts!
https://www.sitejabber.com/reviews/www.conquerclub.com

The one that stands out to me is the one about the 13 year old. :shock:

The top review sounds like it was written by someone as dense as you. As for the 13yo story, I would want proof. I don't believe such a thing was ever brought to the forums, so I doubt it's valid.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Dukasaur on Sun Jun 26, 2016 8:30 pm

iAmCaffeine wrote:
Beast Of Burson wrote:It will keep declining until the owner gets off his ass and becomes active in the topics in the forums.

How would the owner spending time shitposting in the forums instead of developing be so beneficial? You think that because the admin starts posting in the forums that loads of new members will join and/or return?

Beast Of Burson wrote:I personally don't play multiple player games with more than 4 players because I don't want to wait a fucking month to play 1 turn.
The good ole boy system is for all the high rankers to eliminate lower ranks as not to lose points, therefore making it virtually impossible to gain rank for new players.

Typical conspiracy theory from a bad player. If you join escalating games of 8+ players with a table that isn't stupid, you'll find nobody makes kills until it's for the win.

Beast Of Burson wrote:The C&A reports:... LMAO. When somebody new makes a report, and it doesn't matter if they are here 1 day or 1 month, all you pin headed retards start talking trash to them making a big fucking joke out of their report. Yeah, that'll get people to love this site. Shows new comers that they are not welcome.

Most of the time people just "fix" the report. It's rare that every person who makes a report becomes the subject of trash talk.

Beast Of Burson wrote:They way you fuckheads argue and act stupid towards each other in the forums isn't gonna help either. I say you all grow the f*ck up and act like mature individuals instead of a bunch of playground bullies.

You sound like you've really grown the f*ck up mate, well done.

Beast Of Burson wrote:You try to force people into paying for this dump. If you are freemium, you get very little options for your whopping 4 games you get to play. Therefore, all you see is a bunch of fucking volunteers given free rank to push the agenda of buying premium when you know damn well, that money never goes back into the site to upgrade it.

How often do you see volunteers pushing free players to upgrade? Please provide evidence. Premium itself is very cheap, especially compared to costs of other online games. It's rather atypical for non-purchasing users to have less available to them than those who do pay. Online games nowadays often have extras that you have to pay for individually; thankfully, CC does not.

Beast Of Burson wrote:The biggest thing is.... the owner NOT being involved in discussions. People don't want to here a bunch of rhetoric and smoke and mirrors bullshit from his fucking minions. We need to hear from the owner himself. But I think he doesn't give a rats ass. He thinks he's gonna become a millionaire off this site by standing by doing nothing to calm the masses.

I don't see CC lasting another 10 years. With lazy ownership comes a failed business. That's true in any business that is out there. Not just antiquated websites.

The current owner posted announcements in the Dispatch and tried to keep the general forum community updated on what he was working on and what we could expect. As a result he received a load of smack talk, criticism and suchlike, so he decided to focus his time on development instead.

If this place is really so bad why are you still here? You'll be talking about premium dice next.

Good answer! +1

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Beast Of Burson wrote:Gee, maybe this is a problem? 29% approval rating out of 7 posts!
https://www.sitejabber.com/reviews/www.conquerclub.com

The one that stands out to me is the one about the 13 year old. :shock:

The top review sounds like it was written by someone as dense as you. As for the 13yo story, I would want proof. I don't believe such a thing was ever brought to the forums, so I doubt it's valid.

The alleged 13-year old was a long-time member who played some 6000 games but never seemed to rise in rank. Her/his/its main activity seemed to be flirting in chat. Her/his/its avatar was a porn star (it's been changed since), and he/she/it posted sexually explicit conversations in chat, so naturally enough the single guys on the site flirted with her(?). Since people on this site don't have to produce their passport, one can never be sure what someone's age or gender was, but the people who looked into these allegations were pretty sure it was not really a girl, but a guy trolling.

Then some dude with some Japanese handle, Ninja something or Samurai something, started a shitstorm claiming that it was his 13-year old daughter and demanding that we prosecute some guy who flirted with her. The story kept changing whether she was his niece or his daughter, which is another reason to believe it's all BS.

The whole thing is a tempest in a teapot. We don't release real names on this site, so members have no way to verify each other's genders or ages. Therefore, some person on the Internet, who may or may not have been a guy, flirted with some other person on the Internet, who may or may not have been a girl. For all we know, they were both guys, or they were both girls, or they were both androids.

If there was any validity to the claim, the aggrieved party could have brought it to the police, who could have procured a warrant for CC's records. (At the time, CC was still Canadian, and Canadian law is very strong on this subject.) The fact that no police investigation was ever initiated is a third reason to believe it's all a bunch of crap.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby riskllama on Sun Jun 26, 2016 8:54 pm

free Shino Tenshi !!!
wait...on second thought, don't.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby TeeGee on Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:20 pm

riskllama wrote:free Shino Tenshi !!!


Done.. As per order of the mighty Llama


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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby iAmCaffeine on Mon Jun 27, 2016 4:08 am

Dukasaur wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:
Beast Of Burson wrote:Gee, maybe this is a problem? 29% approval rating out of 7 posts!
https://www.sitejabber.com/reviews/www.conquerclub.com

The one that stands out to me is the one about the 13 year old. :shock:

The top review sounds like it was written by someone as dense as you. As for the 13yo story, I would want proof. I don't believe such a thing was ever brought to the forums, so I doubt it's valid.

The alleged 13-year old was a long-time member who played some 6000 games but never seemed to rise in rank. Her/his/its main activity seemed to be flirting in chat. Her/his/its avatar was a porn star (it's been changed since), and he/she/it posted sexually explicit conversations in chat, so naturally enough the single guys on the site flirted with her(?). Since people on this site don't have to produce their passport, one can never be sure what someone's age or gender was, but the people who looked into these allegations were pretty sure it was not really a girl, but a guy trolling.

Then some dude with some Japanese handle, Ninja something or Samurai something, started a shitstorm claiming that it was his 13-year old daughter and demanding that we prosecute some guy who flirted with her. The story kept changing whether she was his niece or his daughter, which is another reason to believe it's all BS.

The whole thing is a tempest in a teapot. We don't release real names on this site, so members have no way to verify each other's genders or ages. Therefore, some person on the Internet, who may or may not have been a guy, flirted with some other person on the Internet, who may or may not have been a girl. For all we know, they were both guys, or they were both girls, or they were both androids.

If there was any validity to the claim, the aggrieved party could have brought it to the police, who could have procured a warrant for CC's records. (At the time, CC was still Canadian, and Canadian law is very strong on this subject.) The fact that no police investigation was ever initiated is a third reason to believe it's all a bunch of crap.

Oh, was that the boom boom kid?
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby 2dimes on Mon Jun 27, 2016 7:45 pm

TeeGee wrote:
We actually now have over 750,000 registered players. :shock:


735 000 are banned.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Lord Arioch on Tue Jun 28, 2016 6:45 am

Do some gladiator games!
Invite all freemiums.... let them bash each other out. 1st-3rd get premium and a shiny medal :) if one of them stays on due to this its profit :) Call if Fremium Bash for Premium or some such :)


And dont use the damn BR map it sucks do a simple new map or maybee eurasia...
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