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Postby ga7 on Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:20 pm

But that's the point, Exile, reading back your exchange with Kwanton was looking semi-joking and you let him off the hook so quickly that people wouldn't know you were seriously having proofs against him.
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Postby kwanton on Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:22 pm

Dammit jake you're not even in this game :? :lol:

Anyway, ga7 why couldn't you just post you're explanations with the vote :? Either way you did raise at least 1 good point. There seems to be an excess of investigative roles.

exile it seems to me like you wanted to start a quick bandwagon on me in hopes that I would go crazy a la reinquisition. No dice. But that does not explain why you came after me during the no-vote day since that was before my hysteria so I'm not really sure. One thing that makes you look damn scummy IMO is that you lied. You said that I definitely killed freezie. I didn't. And even if I did, you would not get that result from you're investigations. I'm currently mulling this over in my head and debating whether or not to vote you.
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Postby The1exile on Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:26 pm

kwanton wrote:Dammit jake you're not even in this game :? :lol:

Anyway, ga7 why couldn't you just post you're explanations with the vote :? Either way you did raise at least 1 good point. There seems to be an excess of investigative roles.

exile it seems to me like you wanted to start a quick bandwagon on me in hopes that I would go crazy a la reinquisition. No dice. But that does not explain why you came after me during the no-vote day since that was before my hysteria so I'm not really sure. One thing that makes you look damn scummy IMO is that you lied. You said that I definitely killed freezie. I didn't. And even if I did, you would not get that result from you're investigations. I'm currently mulling this over in my head and debating whether or not to vote you.


I know the alternative, and I'm 99.5% sure you ain't it.

As for the excess of investigative roles, I think there isn't any really vanilla roles. Maybe some masons in place instead of them.
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Postby ga7 on Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:32 pm

Kwan, for the reasons I didn't put explanations with my vote, while writing explanations I got so fastposted I had to rewrite them anyway, and the thought he might start a quick bandwagon crossed my mind. That and the fact you might suicide again :P

Right now the only thing that puts a tiny shadow of doubt in my mind is that you confirmed you visited freezie. I dunno if it was you who asked, but I didn't investigate Exile. Besides I think he's the GF. My main proof is that LSU warned me he was going to try and recruit him, and warned me about the scene should he get killed.
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Postby kwanton on Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:38 pm

The1exile wrote:Also my role name is yoshi, so I wonder why ga7 thinks i'm scum. Anyone want to claim that instead?


D'oh! I can't believe I missed this. FOS kwan for skimming.

I counterclaim. I am yoshi. It looks like it's inevitable given the situation so I'll have to roleclaim too. I am a bus driver.

That was a bad fake claim exile. How the hell does yoshi make a good tracker? If I was making the roles the first thing that comes to mind when thinking of yoshi is not tracker. Hrm animal(or whatever it is) that the main character rides and it takes people places. Sounds like a bus driver no?

First night I didn't do anything as I usually wait til I have more info before using any power role.

Second night I switched LSU with freezie randomly.
Next day I was not aware that the pricess's death would cause a no vote day(d'oh). When I saw that tho I decided it would be best to keep my role on the DL since nothing good would come of revealing it.

Third night I switched koesen and kalish randomly. I had no suspicions as to who was scum and I didn't want to risk another town power role by switching LSU again. I had hoped scum would see their kill didn't work and look somewhere else.


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Postby The1exile on Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:39 pm

Dude, I'm yoshi. Yoshi is not the GF. If anyone wants to counter claim ,then they can, but they ain't gonna, unless they're scum. Moreover, if I was scum, I wouldn't claim such a prominent role.
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Postby kwanton on Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:45 pm

The1exile wrote:Dude, I'm yoshi. Yoshi is not the GF. If anyone wants to counter claim ,then they can, but they ain't gonna, unless they're scum. Moreover, if I was scum, I wouldn't claim such a prominent role.


Fastposted you :lol:

Just look at the evidence piled against exile. The claim of yoshi being a tracker makes no sense whatsoever. Yoshi makes a much better bus driver. Also, according to ga7, LSU tried to recruit exile last night. If the recruiting mason tries to recruit scum, he dies. And, exile slipped up about his fabricated investigation result. Even if you had a real tracker role it would not have the result of telling you what I did. I guess you got lucky on the fact that I actually did visit freezie. :?
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Postby The1exile on Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:49 pm

kwanton wrote:
The1exile wrote:Dude, I'm yoshi. Yoshi is not the GF. If anyone wants to counter claim ,then they can, but they ain't gonna, unless they're scum. Moreover, if I was scum, I wouldn't claim such a prominent role.


Fastposted you :lol:

Just look at the evidence piled against exile. The claim of yoshi being a tracker makes no sense whatsoever. Yoshi makes a much better bus driver. Also, according to ga7, LSU tried to recruit exile last night. If the recruiting mason tries to recruit scum, he dies. And, exile slipped up about his fabricated investigation result. Even if you had a real tracker role it would not have the result of telling you what I did. I guess you got lucky on the fact that I actually did visit freezie. :?


The roles making no sense whatsoever is something we've already commented on (see baby mario for starters).

I know you can make a better case than me, because generally speaking I suck whenever I have a near-vanilla case, but I'm telling the truth, and you're lying.
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Postby wicked on Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:50 pm

The1exile wrote:I missed night 1 due to my not keeping track of this game, which I admit was thick. Then I tracked kwan. Last night, I tracked you.

Also my role name is yoshi, so I wonder why ga7 thinks i'm scum. Anyone want to claim that instead?


When you say you tracked me, are you talking about ME?
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Postby wicked on Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:52 pm

kwanton wrote:
wicked wrote:well? what's the reason?


I'm not willing to roleclaim with such a weak attack on me. At this point the scum obviously have us on the ropes. It would be bad for us to claim and give them targets to pick off.


well obviously you're claiming a power role, so you're already a target. can you give us a name w/o giving anything away?
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Postby 0ojakeo0 on Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:53 pm

wicked wrote:
kwanton wrote:
wicked wrote:well? what's the reason?


I'm not willing to roleclaim with such a weak attack on me. At this point the scum obviously have us on the ropes. It would be bad for us to claim and give them targets to pick off.


well obviously you're claiming a power role, so you're already a target. can you give us a name w/o giving anything away?


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Postby ga7 on Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:53 pm

Ok wait a minute. Kwanton out of all people counterclaims, supposedly skimming. That gave me more doubts than anything lol. Anyone has an idea if we can afford a mistake now?
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Postby kwanton on Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:54 pm

The1exile wrote:The roles making no sense whatsoever is something we've already commented on (see baby mario for starters).

I know you can make a better case than me, because generally speaking I suck whenever I have a near-vanilla case, but I'm telling the truth, and you're lying.


Just becuase one or two roles don't make sense doesn't mean they're all random. When I got yoshi as a bus driver, I thought it was pretty blatantly obvious that role fit.

It seems like you're just giving up now. There's no way I can argue against "I'm telling the truth, you're lying" unless I just spit back the reverse. I've already compiled the list of your scumtells so I guess it's up to the rest to decide who is lying or not. I'll give ya'll a hint: It's not me.
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Postby kwanton on Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:54 pm

wicked wrote:well obviously you're claiming a power role, so you're already a target. can you give us a name w/o giving anything away?


ummm wicked read the whole thing before you post 'k? :lol:
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Postby wicked on Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:56 pm

I reply as I read it, get over it.
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Postby kwanton on Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:01 pm

ga7 wrote:Ok wait a minute. Kwanton out of all people counterclaims, supposedly skimming. That gave me more doubts than anything lol. Anyone has an idea if we can afford a mistake now?


Have you never skimmed before? I was on the phone at the time so "Let he who is without sin....."

And no. I'm assuming we can't afford a mistake since no scum have died yet. But I guarantee that exile will be one. If you want then don't even look at the claims for a minute. Just look at the evidence against each of us. The only accusation against me was from exile. And his only proof was his falsified investigation.

Now look at the proof against exile. First, the overabundance of investigative roles. Second, and most damning, is the fact that you said LSU tried to recruit him. The recruiter dies if he tries to recruit mafia. Coincidence? I think not.
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Postby wicked on Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:04 pm

ga7 wrote:
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wicked wrote:
The1exile wrote:vote kwanton for being scum. Probably the SK.


If there was a SK, why only one death last night? :?


targeting the same person, targeting bulletproof townie, doc protection, or even the roleblocker realising that I am in fact not talking crap, and blocking kwan.

You forgot already you killed Pancake?


Who killed pancake?
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Postby The1exile on Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:08 pm

wicked wrote:
The1exile wrote:I missed night 1 due to my not keeping track of this game, which I admit was thick. Then I tracked kwan. Last night, I tracked you.

Also my role name is yoshi, so I wonder why ga7 thinks i'm scum. Anyone want to claim that instead?


When you say you tracked me, are you talking about ME?


Yep. You didn't go anywhere, apparently.
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Postby wicked on Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:08 pm

ga7 wrote:Right now the only thing that puts a tiny shadow of doubt in my mind is that you confirmed you visited freezie. I dunno if it was you who asked, but I didn't investigate Exile. Besides I think he's the GF. My main proof is that LSU warned me he was going to try and recruit him, and warned me about the scene should he get killed.


Humor me while I try to catch up and keep up... but ga, what is your role? And how do you know this stuff about LSU?
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Postby ga7 on Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:10 pm

In my assumption scum killed him Wicked :wink: Rereading the scene it's not sure though.

For Freezie it's sure it's scum that killed him. Kwan, I know about skimming but the circumstances make it stand out.
I'm perfectly aware that the evidence on Exile is stronger. Hell, I only need to look at his vote record for that. The point is, first you admit visiting Freezie. Second, you claim the same name than him. Third, both your night action reports look scummy to me. Fourth, you tell me we can't afford to make a mistake.

That is enough for me to hesitate as you could perfectly be playing us right now :?
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Postby wicked on Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:13 pm

ga, I still don't get you calling out exile saying he killed pancake.
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Postby 0ojakeo0 on Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:13 pm

wicked wrote:ga, I still don't get you calling out exile saying he killed pancake.

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Postby wicked on Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:14 pm

jake quit spamming before I shove a banana up your ass. :twisted:
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Postby The1exile on Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:17 pm

:shock:

I'm gonna play warcraft 3 now. Have fun.
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Postby ga7 on Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:17 pm

wicked wrote:
ga7 wrote:Right now the only thing that puts a tiny shadow of doubt in my mind is that you confirmed you visited freezie. I dunno if it was you who asked, but I didn't investigate Exile. Besides I think he's the GF. My main proof is that LSU warned me he was going to try and recruit him, and warned me about the scene should he get killed.


Humor me while I try to catch up and keep up... but ga, what is your role? And how do you know this stuff about LSU?


LSU recruited me in his mason group. My role is Kooper, bulletproof townie. Another member of the group can confirm this.

Basically I'm trusting in LSU's good sense as what he told me could happen exactly happened, which is why I had no qualms about going for my accusation, but this stuff with Kwanton is throwing me off.
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