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Re: Trench Warfare

Postby Catarah on Mon May 21, 2012 7:28 am

instead of ending the game, you could make the forfeit button available *ONLY* for cases where the other is dominating.

so if a player owns, say, 70% of all troops, the forfeit button becomes available, and only if both players agree then the game ends with a winner.

although that would be problematic in fog of war games, if you're really not sure how well everybody is doing, and one player has been stacking for lots of turns.
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Re: Trench Warfare

Postby AndyDufresne on Wed May 23, 2012 9:03 am

I think I need to try out some more non-escalating trench games next week...


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Re: Trench Warfare

Postby rdsrds2120 on Sat May 26, 2012 3:52 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:I think I need to try out some more non-escalating trench games next week...


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Re: Trench Warfare

Postby L M S on Sat May 26, 2012 5:28 pm

I'm not so sure that 'clearly dominating' is so easy to decide.

I was down to something like 3 terits against two other people in this one and each of them had about half the board.......

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Re: Trench Warfare

Postby Crazyirishman on Sat May 26, 2012 6:14 pm

L M S wrote:I'm not so sure that 'clearly dominating' is so easy to decide.

I was down to something like 3 terits against two other people in this one and each of them had about half the board.......

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I'm glad I played the game out (obviously), if that button were available I probably would have used it.


I think the clearly dominating thing pertains mostly to 1v1 games. For example if somebody playing trench has 75% of the troops has a bonus and a 1-2 region buffer zone around that bonus, it is pretty much game over- even in escalating. If the edge is set far enough so that you can even break them with good dice because you have to go through 3 1's then you have almost no chance at pulling out a comeback. In the game you listed, you had two other people that could have pretty much left you alone while trying to set the edge on each other allowing you to build up and fight back into the game. This is not the case for 1v1.
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Re: Trench Warfare

Postby L M S on Sat May 26, 2012 6:15 pm

Crazyirishman wrote:
L M S wrote:I'm not so sure that 'clearly dominating' is so easy to decide.

I was down to something like 3 terits against two other people in this one and each of them had about half the board.......

Game 11073933

I'm glad I played the game out (obviously), if that button were available I probably would have used it.


I think the clearly dominating thing pertains mostly to 1v1 games. For example if somebody playing trench has 75% of the troops has a bonus and a 1-2 region buffer zone around that bonus, it is pretty much game over- even in escalating. If the edge is set far enough so that you can even break them with good dice because you have to go through 3 1's then you have almost no chance at pulling out a comeback. In the game you listed, you had two other people that could have pretty much left you alone while trying to set the edge on each other allowing you to build up and fight back into the game. This is not the case for 1v1.



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Re: Trench Warfare

Postby Renee_W on Sat May 26, 2012 8:01 pm

Crazyirishman wrote:
L M S wrote:I'm not so sure that 'clearly dominating' is so easy to decide.

I was down to something like 3 terits against two other people in this one and each of them had about half the board.......

Game 11073933

I'm glad I played the game out (obviously), if that button were available I probably would have used it.


I think the clearly dominating thing pertains mostly to 1v1 games.


Not really. The mistake is the difference between clearly dominating and clearly dominated. LMS was clearly dominated but since two players each had about half the regions no one was clearly dominating. If one of the players had twice the regions the other two players combined had they would have been clearly dominating and the game would have ended differently.
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Re: Trench Warfare

Postby Beckytheblondie on Sat May 26, 2012 9:02 pm

Renee_W wrote:Not really. The mistake is the difference between clearly dominating and clearly dominated. LMS was clearly dominated but since two players each had about half the regions no one was clearly dominating. If one of the players had twice the regions the other two players combined had they would have been clearly dominating and the game would have ended differently.

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Re: Trench Warfare

Postby L M S on Sun May 27, 2012 12:05 am

The point I was making was that I was clearly dominated in the game...and had there been a button I might have resigned the game instead of playing it out. I know it was escalating and that is the only reason I was able to come back at all after being down to three singles. I am of course happy it turned out the way it did but I can see the idea being valid in no spoils games for sure.

And just to give a little more detail on that game, at one point Yellow was clearly dominating all of us thankfully, he n00bed it up so badly, he wasn't a factor at the end.
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Re: Trench Warfare

Postby chapcrap on Sun May 27, 2012 1:28 am

I think there is a between clearly dominating and being clearly dominated. In your example, no one was clearly dominating.
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