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Zimmerman vs. DMX - Boxing Match?

Postby Phatscotty on Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:50 pm

Last weekend in the city of Chicago alone, gangbangers slaughtered ten people and wounded another forty. The youngest fatality is only six years old. The youngest person wounded is only one-year-old. Many of the victim were pedestrians sprayed with bullets in drive by shootings. The national news has said nothing about this.

So why does one shooting in Florida warrant weeks of national news? Why has there been thousands of articles a day, for the last four days, about one single shooting?

Almost all of the news items about George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin contains a combination of false statements, opinions presented as facts, transparent distortions, and a complete absence of some of the most relevant details. Almost all news items are written soley from the point of view of the grieving family. The media also fills their articles with outdated baby-faced pictures of Trayvon. Very few include that he was a towering 6'2” football player. Is the media really reporting the news, or is this classic agitation/propaganda to advance a political agenda.

Literally thousands of articles contain at least one false statement in the first couple of lines. They usually read "George ZImmerman, a white man," or "shoot by a white man." Zimmerman is described by family as a multiracial Hispanic. His appearance is clearly that of a Latino/Mestizo individual. However, the media wants him to be white because that better fits the political narrative they are trying to artificially create. Many news articles have also claimed the neighborhood is "mostly white." This is also a lie. The neighborhood is only 49% white. It is over half non-white.

All the way back on February 27th, the local Orlando Fox station interviewed the witness who dialed 911. Almost none of the thousands of articles since have mentioned any of the details described by the witness. Some, however, have attributed false statements to this witness. On March 16th, the Sanford police department released new details to the Orlando Sentinel. Once again, these details have been ignored or changed by the media.

1. The witness reports that George Zimmerman was on the ground and Trayvon is on top of him punching him.
2. The witness says that George Zimmerman was screaming and yelling for help.
3. Police arrive and find Zimmerman bleeding on his face and the back of his head. He also has had grass stains on his back. All this confirms the story told by Zimmerman and the witness.
4. Police play the 911 tape for Trayvon Martin's father, who tells police that the voice screaming is not the voice of his son.

The neighborhood this took place in has seen a lot of crime. Would you be surprised to learn that there were eight burglaries, nine thefts, and a shooting just in the past year? In fact, the local homeowners' association reports that George Zimmerman actually caught one thief and aided in the apprehension of other criminals. The Miami Herald wrote about this on March 17th. None of the thousands of articles and cable news segments that came after, thought this was important.

In fact the Miami Herald goes on to interview neighbor, Ibrahim Rashada, who is black. Rashada ​confirms that there has been a lot of crime in the neighborhood and indicates to the reporter that the perpetrators are usually black.

The media also characterizes Trayvon as a "model student." In fact, he under a five day suspension when the shooting took place. That is why he was staying at a house so far from his school on a school night. A laywer for Trayvon's family has blocked access to his school records. However, you have to do something pretty bad to get suspended for five days.

Now that you know the suppressed facts of the case, you can for form a better more balanced opinion. Maybe you still think Zimmerman was wrong to pull the trigger. However, I think you will come to the conclusion that the "mainstream" clearly is pushing an agenda. Even when they have to grossly alter and adjust a story to fit that agenda.


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Re: George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin

Postby codeblue1018 on Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:15 pm

Although a senseless tragedy, people continually rush to judgement without knowing the facts in it's entirety. This is precisely why an arrest wasn't made to begin with.
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Re: George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin

Postby Phatscotty on Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:21 pm

How did Zimmerman get a broken nose? How did he get a cut on the back of his head?

Just wondering if anyone knows.
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Re: George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin

Postby Baron Von PWN on Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:45 am

Phatscotty wrote:
How did Zimmerman get a broken nose?
How did he get a cut on the back of his head?
Just wondering if anyone knows.


Heh now your post sort of rhymes. You should make all your posts this way scotty.
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Re: George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin

Postby comic boy on Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:28 am

Phatscotty wrote:How did Zimmerman get a broken nose? How did he get a cut on the back of his head?

Just wondering if anyone knows.


Have you seen an official medical report confirming these injuries or are you relying on the above article ?
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Re: George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin

Postby Aradhus on Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:49 am

Phatscotty wrote:How did Zimmerman get a broken nose? How did he get a cut on the back of his head?

Just wondering if anyone knows.



Assuming that is true, could it be that he attacked the kid he was fucking stalking, and the kid defended himself?

You guys are clowns.
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Re: George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin

Postby Aradhus on Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:56 am

What size/weight is Zimmerman(the serial 911 caller about suspicious black people)

What size/weight is Martin?

Zimmerman said "they always get away with it", this time he was making sure one of those thug blacks paid for the crimes obviously commiting by his thug black friends.
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Re: George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin

Postby Iron Butterfly on Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:15 pm

I beleive the main point of the article and this post is that ones opinions are formed by the information that is published.

I live in NYC and I am white. I have read in three different stories about Zimmerman being called a "White Male". We have enough racial injustice in our city and country as it is. This just fuels the fire of those who dont care about facts and have their own agendas.

This just proves that all the information is not out and if one forms an opinion outside the given media narrative or raises specific questions, their morality, charachter or ethics may be called into question.
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Re: George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin

Postby comic boy on Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:52 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:I beleive the main point of the article and this post is that ones opinions are formed by the information that is published.

I live in NYC and I am white. I have read in three different stories about Zimmerman being called a "White Male". We have enough racial injustice in our city and country as it is. This just fuels the fire of those who dont care about facts and have their own agendas.

This just proves that all the information is not out and if one forms an opinion outside the given media narrative or raises specific questions, their morality, charachter or ethics may be called into question.


Surely the point is that it shouldn't take a month of media enquiry and demonstrations before an enquiry is announced , that should have happened as a matter of course.
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Re: George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin

Postby keiths31 on Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:39 pm

This isn't getting a lot of airtime up here in my part of Canada, but from what I have seen and read it certainly seems like Zimmerman was in the wrong and a teen aged kid is dead. But why, with all the public and media outcry over this (even from the American president), has Zimmerman not been charged with anything yet? It would seem that the court of public opinion has already crucified this man. Why haven't the police been able to gather enough evidence to charge him with murder or the least manslaughter? A coverup, with this much public attention, seems almost impossible. The above article is the only one I have seen so far that has differing facts (and it is from a strongly agenda driven site it appears).
This is just a sad story all around. I hope the truth comes out and if charges are warranted, this man goes to jail.
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Re: George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin

Postby comic boy on Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:14 pm

keiths31 wrote:This isn't getting a lot of airtime up here in my part of Canada, but from what I have seen and read it certainly seems like Zimmerman was in the wrong and a teen aged kid is dead. But why, with all the public and media outcry over this (even from the American president), has Zimmerman not been charged with anything yet? It would seem that the court of public opinion has already crucified this man. Why haven't the police been able to gather enough evidence to charge him with murder or the least manslaughter? A coverup, with this much public attention, seems almost impossible. The above article is the only one I have seen so far that has differing facts (and it is from a strongly agenda driven site it appears).
This is just a sad story all around. I hope the truth comes out and if charges are warranted, this man goes to jail.


From what I gather Zimmerman pleaded self defence and the local police accepted it as such , seems incredible but there you are.
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Re: George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin

Postby Aradhus on Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:44 pm

Weight Trayvon Martin 140 lbs
Weight George Zimmerman 250 lbs
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Re: George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin

Postby keiths31 on Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:02 pm

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keiths31 wrote:This isn't getting a lot of airtime up here in my part of Canada, but from what I have seen and read it certainly seems like Zimmerman was in the wrong and a teen aged kid is dead. But why, with all the public and media outcry over this (even from the American president), has Zimmerman not been charged with anything yet? It would seem that the court of public opinion has already crucified this man. Why haven't the police been able to gather enough evidence to charge him with murder or the least manslaughter? A coverup, with this much public attention, seems almost impossible. The above article is the only one I have seen so far that has differing facts (and it is from a strongly agenda driven site it appears).
This is just a sad story all around. I hope the truth comes out and if charges are warranted, this man goes to jail.


From what I gather Zimmerman pleaded self defence and the local police accepted it as such , seems incredible but there you are.


That's what I have heard/read too. But there has to be more to it than that. Is there an investigation going on down there?
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Re: George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin

Postby saxitoxin on Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:40 pm

Everyone has raised good points in this thread.

What's not in dispute, though, is that Zimmerman pursued Martin after being cautioned by police not to do that. If he is the victim of a horrible wrong he bears at least partial responsibility on that front.

People have an obligation to act when they see life threatened. Not only do they not have an obligation, it is exceptionally unwise, to intervene in cases of misdemeanors or civil wrongs. If someone is being robbed or beaten, intervene if you feel you can. But, if a mentally ill woman is screaming in class, call the police. If a suspicious person is in your neighborhood, call the police. If someone is giving tugjobs in the park, call the police. If you feel you absolutely need to intervene directly in minor situational disturbances, volunteer as a special constable or police reserve. Zimmerman was volunteering for the neighborhood "watch." The key word being the last one.
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Re: George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin

Postby Phatscotty on Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:41 pm

There is now. A special State Attorney has been appointed, the police chief has stepped down amongst death threats.

I have been arguing with people on FB page "Iluvbeingblack" and Iron Butterfly nailed it. Repeatedly, my morality, charachter or ethics has been called into question. The funniest thing is, my main point on that page has been "We don't have all the information" and "all the facts aren't in" but that was enough to get my life threatened. I also noticed people were posting the home address of the police chief and calling for his lynching. There were many people like there are here, who simply do not believe that there is another side to the story.

Many people I have talked to are sickened by the misinformation. A TYT video with Cenk says that Zimmerman is a white person, when he is clearly a multiracial Hispanic. (is this really how far they have to stretch things to paint white people as racist?) The NY Times has called Zimmerman a "white-hispanic" lol. I guess they are inventing terms now? Forum goers who are used to the filth poster here may not be surprised, but many people are. From what I have seen, most people base all their fantasy facts on the possibility that Zimmerman may have called "them" coons. (was Trayvon alone?) If you ask me, it sounded like he said "fuckin fools". Either way, you can't be sure what he said....but like that matters, right? Even the audio people who isolated the comment and boosted the volume cannot be sure what he said.

Nobody has even heard the other side of the story, yet people are calling for blood and holding skittles rallies all across the country. Of course Obama did not bring any calm to the situation with his comments, and instead further fanned the flames.

This all makes sense if you read the book by Obama's hero "Rules for Radicals" by Saul Alinsky (dedicated on page one to Satan). The media plays by these rules too.
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