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Postby InkL0sed on Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:35 pm

/ wrote:Where should we discuss this?


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Postby wicked on Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:36 pm

Skoffin wrote: If you're not going to follow the rules, don't sign up for games.


If you're going to post in annoying colors, don't join the game.

and the rules aren't posted until the games are already joined dipwad. :roll:

back to the game...
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Postby pmchugh on Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:01 pm

i dont like kiwi's style of play he did this in the last game i played in leading me to think he was scum turned out he was third party i think this is just the style he plays, but none the less i dont think he would be much of a loss considering he cant come up with anything after 30-odd pages, if hes scum we are lucky if not then im not really bothered unless he is a doc or something unvote vote kiwitaker
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Postby MountainLion on Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:25 pm

Have we heard from militant, spurgistan or minister masket?
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Postby Iliad on Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:28 pm

or suggs?
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Postby Suika on Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:29 pm

MountainLion wrote:Have we heard from militant, spurgistan or minister masket?


militant is voting for Icedagger and minister masket for spurgistan, but spurgistan has no recorded vote as of the update on page 34.
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Postby MountainLion on Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:29 pm

Iliad wrote:or suggs?


Not recently, but I believe he has at least posted in this thread.
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Postby LSU Tiger Josh on Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:13 pm

pmchugh wrote:i dont like kiwi's style of play he did this in the last game i played in leading me to think he was scum turned out he was third party i think this is just the style he plays, but none the less i dont think he would be much of a loss considering he cant come up with anything after 30-odd pages, if hes scum we are lucky if not then im not really bothered unless he is a doc or something unvote vote kiwitaker


I also agree wtih that

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Postby Iliad on Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:15 pm

Hmm. I will keep my vote on dito for now but when(if) kiwi comes back to defend himself I might turn the vote on him
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Postby lalaland on Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:39 pm

as Kiwi is pretty much AWOL and this thread is huge compared to the amount of leads we have [aka basically none] I'm going to Unvote; Vote: Kiwi

I'm chalking Ditocoaf's post up to n00b mistake, but would not be outright opposed to lynching him.
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Postby KiwiTaker on Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:11 pm

Looks like the inmates are going to be running the asylum if you lynch me. I fail to see why when I submarine I always get voted but when znyone else does they seem to get away with it :? . I posted that I didn't have anything to say at 8 am in the morning. Can't someone be tired. Anyway that tirade is over. What Ditocoaf said was either scummy or noobish. Vote Ditocoaf
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Postby sheepofdumb on Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:12 pm

Yeah, Ditocoaf's made too many newbish mistakes. Enough that if we weren't going after Kiwi he'd be lynched right now.

Just so you know Dito, it's not very smart to out and out deny that your scum. That looks scummy to people and is a sure fire way to get lynched.

Also jumping on bandwagons isn't a very smart this if you can tell. Scum love to try and kill the town as fast as they can and a bandwagon just makes it easier. A good scum player keeps a low profile and only bandwagons on players that look like easy lynches.
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Postby KiwiTaker on Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:12 pm

Forgot to bold it :oops: Vote Ditocoaf
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Postby Iliad on Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:14 pm

KiwiTaker wrote:Looks like the inmates are going to be running the asylum if you lynch me. I fail to see why when I submarine I always get voted but when znyone else does they seem to get away with it :? . I posted that I didn't have anything to say at 8 am in the morning. Can't someone be tired. Anyway that tirade is over. What Ditocoaf said was either scummy or noobish. Vote Ditocoaf

umm no it's not. There wer what 36 pages when you posted. You couldn't say anything at all? You couldn't comment? And couldn' you have commented BEFORE? When you were not "tired"? :roll:
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Postby Ditocoaf on Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:21 pm

I for one am not suprised that Kiwi just voted for me. I'm especially amused that he basically repeated the things everyone was saying before I responded.

sheepofdumb wrote:Yeah, Ditocoaf's made too many newbish mistakes. Enough that if we weren't going after Kiwi he'd be lynched right now.

Before that one post, what? I don't think one mistake's enough to classify me as a detriment to the cause.
Just so you know Dito, it's not very smart to out and out deny that your scum. That looks scummy to people and is a sure fire way to get lynched.
Okay... I can't say that's exactly fair, or reasonable, but I guess it's like in real life (during the McCarthy era, anyway). I'll keep that in mind.
Also jumping on bandwagons isn't a very smart this if you can tell. Scum love to try and kill the town as fast as they can and a bandwagon just makes it easier. A good scum player keeps a low profile and only bandwagons on players that look like easy lynches.
What does a good town player do? On day one? find someone suspicious to lynch, even if they're not 100% sure, because that's the only way to get information. I've read several mafia threads all the way through, I thought this was generally accepted. And I've already explained that I didn't mean any bandwagon, it was meant as a general push to do something when we had less than 24 hours before night.
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Postby Iliad on Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:13 pm

I'll be away until monday evening(GMT+10). Sorry about the inconvenience
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Postby Sierra_Leon on Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:22 pm

InkL0sed wrote:
Sierra_Leon wrote:I think Ink's role will prove useful late game, but the question we should be asking ourselves is: should he reveal his investigations every day. I don't think he should reveal his results. Let me explain why.

Ink's role becomes useful when out of 4 people he investigated earlier, 3 have died or have been proven town somehow. It then becomes possible to see which of the 4 alignments was the true one and three were false, and voila: you find out the alignment of the last of those 4 players.

What will happen if Ink reveals his results publicly is that scum will make sure not to kill more than 2 people on a list to keep town from finding out an alignment for sure. You might argue this is good, because it hinders them in choosing a night kill, but it would be far more useful if Ink only reveals a result after 3 people on that list have died/have been proven town, because that's the only way this role is going to uncover mafia.

Ink, how do you feel about this yourself?


Sadly, I have to reveal my results. It's a post restriction. :(

Crap. :(

Kiwi looks scummy. Ditocoaf seems to be suffering from the "vote-the-new-guy" syndrome. I won't be participating in that. I'd like to see more posts from kiwi, MM and suggs. I can remember spurg posting, that's why I left him out of that list.
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Postby KiwiTaker on Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:53 pm

I just feel like that if I post without a proper reason then I am spamming. I know it's a stupid feeling but I can't seem to shake it.
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Postby Ditocoaf on Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:55 pm

KiwiTaker wrote:I just feel like that if I post without a proper reason then I am spamming. I know it's a stupid feeling but I can't seem to shake it.
If that's really true, then where do you get the idea that you have no proper reason to post? You're part of this game, aren't you?
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Postby sheepofdumb on Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:02 pm

Ditocoaf wrote:At this point, I'd be willing to jump on any bandwagon there is, just to ensure that someone gets lynched.


Mistake #1,

Ditocoaf wrote:I'm not scum...


Mistake #2,

That's more than one. My statement stands strong.
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Postby InkL0sed on Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:05 pm

sheepofdumb wrote:
Ditocoaf wrote:At this point, I'd be willing to jump on any bandwagon there is, just to ensure that someone gets lynched.


Mistake #1,

Ditocoaf wrote:I'm not scum...


Mistake #2,

That's more than one. My statement stands strong.


That isn't really true. "Oh look, you didn't make one mistake, you made two! You must be scum!" <-- That is not a good point in my opinion.

I would also like to hear more from submariners, Kiwi, and Ditocoaf.
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Postby sheepofdumb on Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:13 pm

I never said he was scum, I said that he's made newbish mistakes. Pay attention.
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Postby Ditocoaf on Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:20 pm

InkL0sed wrote:I would also like to hear more from submariners, Kiwi, and Ditocoaf.

I think I'd be repeating myself if I said anything else at the moment, so I'll provide links to where I defended myself:
First reaction; after finishing reading the mini-bandwagon that followed; also; most recently.

If there's anything else I should be responding to, let me know...
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Postby MountainLion on Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:06 am

KiwiTaker wrote:I just feel like that if I post without a proper reason then I am spamming. I know it's a stupid feeling but I can't seem to shake it.


Please shake it, because on day 1 you should at least try to include yourself somehow. If you don't, we begin to question you.
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Postby ga7 on Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:57 am

Man that was an awful lot of day 1 posts to catch back on. Been busy :(
So far 3 midly interesting things come out of this: Neoteny, Tal and Ink's wagons. I think Tal was just trying to find out clues which doesn't really seem fishy considering we can expect rather complicated game mechanisms as usual, so kinda weird to bandwagon him over so little so early on. Then Ink's case: if his claim is true his role is nigh useless, but you never know as if it's anything like the first asylum game it's not like a single faction controls all the kills; and either way I don't see how it hurts the town. Finally Neoteny. Now as I've been reading this along the day and forgetting the beginning when I reached the end, I might be a bit confused but it strikes me as a huge WTF that he started looking like he had a post restriction, got wagonned for it and suddenly popped up with a pills story as excuse then promptly got unvoted. Makes me think he faked a PR to mingle with the loonies, saw it backfire and backtracked. Might be totally misleaded as a good half of the time but I want to look more into this. Btw I have a PR that allows me only one post every three days... :lol:
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