Nobunaga wrote:Juan_Bottom wrote:Nobunaga wrote:... Obama had his ass handed to him last night.
... It was seen by all during the debate that the President cannot win the argument based on facts, on policy, nor on anything else.... so what are they to do...? ... Now the strategy of the Dems is only too predictable.
... Convincing the public that Romney is full of shite is the first step. Then character assassination is the only answer.
... How long until we see commercials... "Romney lied when he said..."
... And how long before the dems pay off some whore to say Romney attacked her at a hotel? (or similar) While major media runs with the story 24/7 for weeks?
... It is just a matter of time. They are out of options. I would bet money on it.
... Predictable as hell. When you can't win the argument of ideas, you destroy your opponent through other means.
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Are you crazz?
I don't know what Obama was doing, but everything Romney said was a lie, or falsehood, and I don't Romney can keep this up in the next debate. I doubt Obama will fail to pursue Romney's obvious lies the next time. I think he'll be better prepared.
Fact checkers:
http://factcheck.org/2012/10/dubious-de ... larations/
... Factcheck? Ohhhh, there's a solid, professional analysis.
... Show me something from a national financial magazine not owned by George Soros, or from the WSJ and I'll take you seriously.
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LIES! LIES! LIES! ... I so much enjoy being right.
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I can only assume Juan did not read any of the Obama fact check stuff (although he did say he didn't know what Obama was doing, so perhaps he did).
I'm not really qualified to comment on any part of the Fact Check article except the tax section. I'm not certain why this is so hard for people to grasp. Romney definitely did not provide any details as to what deductions, credits, or exemptions he would do away with, so there's that caveat. But, as I indicated above, one can certainly cut the tax rate while also maintaining the same level of revenue by changing a deduction, credit, and/or exemption. It's done on a semi-regular basis in state taxation.
For example, the Pennsylvania legislature recently proposed a reduction in its 9.99% corporate tax rate (to, I believe, 6%). The bill where that tax rate reduction was included also provided for the elimination of certain available corporate deductions which made the tax rate decrease revenue-neutral. Let's do another simple math example.
State X's tax rate is currently 10%. Bill has $5,000 of income and gets a deduction of $2,000 for whatever, so his taxable income is $3,000 and his tax is $300.
State X lowers its tax rate to 8% and eliminates the whatever deduction. Bill has $5,000 of income, gets no deductions, so his taxable income is $5,000 and his tax is $400.