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tzor wrote:notyou2 wrote:Has anyone else noticed the lack of threads about the US political parties?
Do you want one? Because I really don't.
Well perhaps not; I'm just too lazy to post a "Sequestration ... bring it on baby" thread.
Or "Carl Rove's war with the tea party or how the RINO DINOSAURS became extinct."
tzor wrote:The point, however, is no matter who you are in the Democratic party, if the official talking point is A, you echo that. You don't see this in the Republican party. No one can set a Republican talking point because everyone has their own talking points. As a result, given the mainstream media, most Republicans play defense to Democratic talking points.
thegreekdog wrote:Why do you think the Republican talking points are different?
tzor wrote:thegreekdog wrote:Why do you think the Republican talking points are different?
Because they don't know how to sing in unison. Here is a hint; you don't even have to agree on details to sing in unison as long as you agree on the talking point.
Here is a Republican Talking Point and I'm surprised that the Speaker actually mentioned it: "The Senate has not passed a single budget since Obama took office. We have on several occasions."
Every Republican Congressman should echo that statement. Every Republican Senator should demand Harry Reed bring up a budget bill on the floor.
That's what I mean about a "talking point." Instead Republicans just want to talk about whatever pops into their mind at the time and it all gets lost in the noise.
tzor wrote:Here is a Republican Talking Point and I'm surprised that the Speaker actually mentioned it: "The Senate has not passed a single budget since Obama took office. We have on several occasions."
Every Republican Congressman should echo that statement. Every Republican Senator should demand Harry Reed bring up a budget bill on the floor.
Night Strike wrote:Actually, a lot have....including both the moderate ones (like my senator) and the conservative/libertarian ones (Rand Paul, etc.). The problem is that the media doesn't make the same statements or ask the same questions of the Democrats, so the Republican message doesn't get out.
thegreekdog wrote:Because there are fundamental differences between Republicans (is my point).
tzor wrote:thegreekdog wrote:Because there are fundamental differences between Republicans (is my point).
But there are fundamental differences between Democrats. They just know how to shut up and stick to the script.
There are a considerable number of African American Democrats who know how badly Obama has done to the average person in their community; they deliberately remain silent for the greater good of the party.
thegreekdog wrote:In the last two elections, Tea Party type candidates have won primaries against Republican stalwarts. There is a definitely a battle within the party. Hell, Eric Cantor said yesterday that there would be a Republican civil war over the Violence Against Women Act.
AndyDufresne wrote:I think it is high time we get rid of all legal protections for anyone. I'mma 'bout to unleash a bananapocalypse on y'all.
--Andy
thegreekdog wrote:Do you mean African American Democratic politicians or African American Democrats?
tzor wrote:thegreekdog wrote:Do you mean African American Democratic politicians or African American Democrats?
I will go down the middle and say African American Democrats in positions of authority. Some may be in political authority, some may be in positions of authority that might have influence in politics.
thegreekdog wrote:So why do you think they are in lockstep with the president?
Paul Ryan wrote: “As you know, the sequester was designed to force action to deal with the deficit and debt. We passed a bill 300 days ago to deal with this. As recently as December the Senate still hasn’t done anything. So I do expect the sequester to take effect, because the Senate hasn’t acted, the president is around the country campaigning instead of governing. So I think what you’ll see happen next week is we will pass an appropriations Measure that gives the administration more flexibility.”
tzor wrote:thegreekdog wrote:So why do you think they are in lockstep with the president?
Because, at first, they believed him to be an African American in the generally understood meaning of the word. There is, however, a significant difference between an African American and an American of direct African heritage. There is also the recent history of the Democratic Party that almost sends the notion that party comes before community, because, clearly the Republicans would be worse.
It is very hard to leave that Democratic plantation; a Black non Democrat is a non Black in the community. Look how viciously a conservative African American is character assassinated by the Democratic Party (with the media looking on at the spectacle and clapping) throughout recent history and you will see the pressure within the community to keep their own to the party line.
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