Endgame422 wrote:My point was not that we need to lynch mitch today only that we need to consider if that's the kind of move mitch makes as scum.
Strike just posted something similar to my thoughts.
If mitch is town,why would scum restrict him?
He tends to distract from scumhunting,and is mislynched fairly regularly because he is basically impossible to read.
The only way scum gains from restricting him is if mitch himself is scum.
Why not restrict one of the more experienced(dangerous to scum) players.
The reason i didn't vote mitch is because we are not 100 percent that he is restricted. Rishs comment suggests he is but thats "playing the mod" and i have never found that to be legitimate play. Its certainly possible mitch isnt even restricted and my whole line of reasoning is completely off. IF hes restricted,THEN hes probably scum but we wont know for sure until someone else gets restricted and mitch can explain a bit.
Of the 5 votes i have,boss and aages votes both seem like obvious bandwagons. The fact i got so many votes so quick(overnight) makes me think scum is definetly on there already.
Ill also agree mars posts have been a bit erratic,but i havent really found them very scummy.
You posted this phrase:
"Would scum restrict one of their own(mitch) D1?"It sounds like a rhetorical question, because they wouldn't. But you then continue to elaborate on why they would, in a way that makes no sense. It makes 2 assumptions.
A. the restriction imposed on Mitch is a mafia power;
B. the restriction is imposed on Mitch, which means Mitch is mafia.
Those two assumptions are incompatible. You consider a scenario where Mitch is a mafia being silenced by his teammate to make sure he doesn't screw up. You say "it's worth to consider" this, but the problem is that you don't seem to consider other possibilities. If the person with the restriction is town, first off I see no reason to use it on anyone at all, but Mitch might be a valid target because of the reasons you stated - he has a tendency to distract from scumhunting. That makes PR'ing Mitch a town play. If Mitch is town, there is no reason to assume the PR-giver is scum: other than doing town a favour, why would they silence Mitch of all people? There are far better targets out there.
So no, we don't need to consider whether this is the kind of move Mitch would make as scum. As you say, restricting players who pose a larger threat is priority, why ignore them and instead post-restrict Mitch who is less likely to catch scum slips on day 1? Your first post about this was contradictory, and this post doesn't explain anything. It's still way more likely that a town PR role would target Mitch, than that a scum PR role would target him. It wouldn't surprise me if any of the players in this game would restrict Mitch as town just because they can, to be honest.
It's been said over and over again in this thread, roles don't naturally correspond with alignment. Either you've drunken way too much kool-aid and should stop hanging with the conspiracy nutters, or you know something we don't.
I've said before I doubted that a role could restrict Mitch from talking completely, but Rish's post changed my views completely if you hadn't noticed. If he doesn't need to be prodded, it means Rish knows he hasn't forgotten about the game, which means he is intentionally not posting. Secondly, he is not being punished for it, which means a force stronger than the rules is preventing him from doing so. Only possibility is a (literal) post restriction.
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