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What is your opinion on a map based on the world naruto takes place in?

Yes, I would like to play this type of map
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No, I have no interest in this type of map.
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What is Naruto?
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Shinobi Nations

Postby joystickgenie on Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:16 pm

here is the map's current progress

newest image

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original image

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Stats:

52 territories total
9 nations for bonuses

Territories per nation:

Unallied nations 5
Assorted 6
Earth 6
Lightning 5
Fire 7
River 3
Water 4
Wind 5
Tea 7
Sea 4


notes:

To make this work though there is a lot of complete fabrication on my part. I had to find a way to name the smaller sections of the shinobi nations and where their borders lie. I tried to make the stuff I added as close to the anime/manga as I could but there is only so much that is shown.

All of the names and territories I added are based off of the manga or anime in some way (diving deep in the filler episodes) and I tried to place them in locations that make sense in the naruto world.
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Postby narian on Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:57 pm

your links broken :?
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Postby Unit_2 on Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:14 pm

yeah, we can't see the map
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Postby joystickgenie on Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:20 pm

Thats strange. Alright I uploaded it up on my own server now so hopfully it will work from there. obviously there is a lot of work to do yet, more borders and the entire mape needs to be scaled down but it's a start.
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Postby joystickgenie on Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:14 am

Alright I posted up the map partially created. Although I like the number of territories the nations I have for the ones I have already separated, they are too small and too close together to be easily readable. I'm not sure if it would be better to just drop territories or if I should put the territory labels away from the territories themselves on connected with lines
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Postby Unit_2 on Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:20 am

wow!!.. that is a cool map, i think it would work byut it needs some fixin up
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Postby oaktown on Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:34 am

image link still doesn't work for me, but I found the map at the site mentioned above. Same old story - decent map layout, graphics need a ton of work, and there are copyright considerations.
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Postby santon836 on Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:40 am

Well keep working...
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Postby joystickgenie on Sun Feb 25, 2007 12:34 am

I updated the map making all of the territory borders and giveing the vast majority of the territoies names.

graphics still needs a ton of work, I need names for the remaining territoies and I have to add the lines for attack over the water.
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Postby joystickgenie on Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:28 pm

Functionality wise the map should be ok now. If you see any balancing problems please tell me your ideas.

Graphically there is still a lot of work to be done. I need to add texture to the countries, replace the white lines representing bridges, text for the territory names, territory borders, and key graphics with decent looking art.

Pretty much improve the look of everything.
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Postby santon836 on Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:35 am

You are also missing some names.

Are there only 5 countrys in land of wind?
No more?

If so, a bonus of 4 is way too high.
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Postby joystickgenie on Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:08 am

I’m missing names for 2 countries in wind, 1 country in earth and 1 country in water. I’m trying to find more names for those countries but I think I may have exhausted the anime and manga for territory names and will have to make some up for those. I haven’t forgot, I just need to do more research.

The reason that I gave wind such I high bonus even though it only has 5 countries is because it has borders with 5 countries as well. I suppose that the bonus could be dropped to 3-4 with that one. I think I may have been thinking about the other nation with only 5 countries (Assorted shinobi nations) but I want to keep them with a bonus of five since they will be so hard to hold (borders with 11 countries)
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Re: Naruto Shinobi Nations

Postby Geographical on Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:44 am

joystickgenie wrote:here is the map's current progress

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57 territories total
9 nations for bonuses

Territories per nation:

Unallied nations 7
Assorted 5
Earth 5
Lightning 6
Fire 7
River 3
Water 4
Wind 5
Tea 7
Sea 4

To make this work though there is a lot of complete fabrication on my part. I had to find a way to name the smaller sections of the shinobi nations and where their borders lie. I tried to make the stuff I added as close to the anime/manga as I could but there is only so much that is shown.

All of the names and territories I added so far are based off of the manga or anime in some way (diving deep in the filler episodes) and I tried to place them in locations that make sense in the naruto world. please look them over and if you see something completely wrong (like a city or nation is in the wrong place) please point it out to me and I'll see if I can change it.


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Postby santon836 on Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:12 am

You also miss a name in Fire.

I think the unallied nations are gonna be unholdable.
The land of sound doesn't even connect to the others...
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Postby joystickgenie on Tue Feb 27, 2007 8:28 pm

here is a list of all the territories and how I got their name

Territories per nation:

Unallied nations
(6 territories)
• Kiba no Kuni (fang country)
Mentioned in the filler episodes
(Episode 177 OH!? Please ♥ Mister Postman)
• Shu no Kuni (Neck Country)
Shown in the filler episodes
(Episode 194 Bizarre! The Haunted Ghost Castle)
• Kemurigakure (Village Hidden in Smoke)
Mentioned in the filler episodes
(Episode 101 Want to see, want to know, want to confirm
Kakashi-sensei's true face)
• Tsume (The Land of the Claw)
Shown in the filler episodes
(Episode 177 OH!? Please ♥ Mister Postman)
• Hoshigakure (Village Hidden Among Stars)
Shown in the filler episodes
(Episodes 178–183 Hidden Star Village arc)
• Wave Country
Canon
Episodes 6–19

Assorted
(6 territories)
• Bird Country
Mentioned in filler episodes
(Episodes 162–167 Bird Country arc)
• Grass Country
Canon
Mentioned sporadically thought out the chunin exams
(headbands)
• Land of Rain
Canon
Mentioned sporadically thought out the chunin exams
(headbands)
• Land of Sound (formerly the rice country)
Canon
• Land of Waterfalls
Canon
OVA 2 Battle at Hidden Falls. I am the Hero!
• Takumi no Sato (Craftsman Village)
Mentioned in the filler episodes
(Episode 216 – 220 Shiitenshounin arc)

Earth
(6 territories)
• Ishi no Kuni(The Land of Stone)
Shown in the filler episodes
(episode 159 Enemy or ally!? Wasteland bounty hunting)
• Souhon
Shown in the filler episodes
(episode 159 Enemy or ally!? Wasteland bounty hunting)
• Tonbogakure (Village Hidden under the Dragonfly)
Mentioned in the filler episodes
(episodes 195–196 The Konoha 11 arc)
• Iwagakure (Village Hidden Among Rocks)
Canon though location is unknown
• Kamezuru Territory
Partially fabricated
Clan shown in filler episodes, territory unknown
(episodes 148–151 Bikōchū arc)
• Northern Terrain
Fabricated

Lightning
(5 territories)
• Kumogakure (Village Hidden Among Clouds)
Canon though location is unknown
• Getsugakure (Village Hidden under the Moon)
Mentioned in canon shown in filler
(Naruto the Movie 3: Animal Riot of Crescent Moon Island)
• Katabami
Shown in filler
(episodes 152–157 Raiga arc)
• Land of Honey
Mentioned in filler
(Episode 194 Bizarre! The Haunted Ghost Castle)
• Na no Kuni (Land of Vegetables)
Shown in filler
episode 187


Fire
(7 territories)
• Village hidden in leaves (Konoha)
Canon
• Forrest of Death (Shi no Mori)
Canon though location is unknown
• Valley of the End (Shuumatsu no Tani)
Canon
• Nara Forrest
Canon though location is unknown
• Tanzaku Gai
Canon
• Otafuku Gai (Homely Woman Town)
Canon
• Aburame Territory
Partially fabricated
Based on one of the fire countries clans

River
(3 territories)
• Shinobazu Territory
Shown in filler
(Episodes 209–212 Shinobazu arc)
• East Bank
Fabricated
• West Bank
Fabricated

Water
(4 territories)
• Kaguya Islands
Clan shown in canon, territory unknown
• Kirigakure
Canon
• Sawa no Kuni
Mentioned in filler
episodes 152
• Island of the Bloody Mist
Partially fabricated
Based on a comments on the hidden village of the mist’s
graduation pratices

Wind
(5 territories)
• Sunagakure
Canon
• Land of Red Beans
Mentioned in filler
(Episode 194 Bizarre! The Haunted Ghost Castle)
• Udon no Kuni (The Land of Udon)
Mentioned in filler
Episode 192
• Temujin Shores
Shown in second movie but never named
• Desert waste
Fabricated

Tea
(7 territories)
• Wagarashi Territory
Mentioned in filler
(Episodes 102–106 Tea Country arc)
• Wasabi Territory
Mentioned in filler
(Episodes 102–106 Tea Country arc)
• Degarashi Port
Shown in filler
(Episodes 102–106 Tea Country arc)
• Todoroki Shrine
Shown in filler
(Episodes 102–106 Tea Country arc)
• Modoroki Shrine
Shown in filler
(Episodes 102–106 Tea Country arc)
• Nagi Island
Shown in filler
(Episodes 102–106 Tea Country arc)
• O'uzu Island
Shown in filler
(Episodes 102–106 Tea Country arc)

Sea
(4 territories)
• Kika Island
Shown in filler
(Episodes 169–173 Sea Country arc)
• Taro Island
Shown in filler
(Episodes 169–173 Sea Country arc)
• Haha Island
Shown in filler
(Episodes 169–173 Sea Country arc)
• Jiro Island
Shown in filler
(Episodes 169–173 Sea Country arc)
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Postby joystickgenie on Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:35 pm

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Ok I translated the names of the Japanese nations and territories to English as the forge rules stated.

I put up two versions of the map one with unit dots and one without. Although I think the one with unit dots look cluttered I think they may be necessary to clearly see the unit counts when the game is being played.

Tell me what you think.

At this point I think I am pretty happy with it. I may change a texture here or there but I don't think there are any more major changes I had lined up for myself. So I need feedback before I start on the XML.
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Postby joystickgenie on Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:40 pm

Oh yeah and just on the side here. Is there a way to change the poll or once you make it are you stuck with it?
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Postby AndyDufresne on Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:32 pm

I'm a little concerned about the copyright issues, as this comes from a televsion show, yes? Also, currently, the map has little appeal to me.


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Postby joystickgenie on Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:58 pm

I understand your concerns with the copyright issues with this. The problem I have been having is that the creator and copyright owner of Naruto is Masashi Kishimoto, a manga artist in Japan. I do not speak Japanese and have been unable to find any way of getting in contact with him or anyone representing him. I have attempted to talk with the people who are in charge of brining the anime/manga to the United States but have not yet received a reply.

I have not lifted any art from any of the copyrighted Naruto work. This map was drawn by myself using the Naruto universe as theme.

As for you not being interested in it there isn’t much I can say. I put up the poll to ask people what they think about this map and the reception hasn’t been that bad (50% wanting to play and only 14% saying no) if there is anything specific you don’t like tell me and I’ll see what I can do.
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Postby joystickgenie on Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:40 pm

New updates.

- Changed the coloring (tell me if you prefered the old style with solid colors over this)
- Made the border lines less intrusive
- Changed the way rivers were displayed
-I removed the wave country from the map. it was to small to show up well and served no real strategic value.

as always I'm looking for as much feedback as I can get.
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Postby Guiscard on Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:55 pm

joystickgenie wrote:I understand your concerns with the copyright issues with this. The problem I have been having is that the creator and copyright owner of Naruto is Masashi Kishimoto, a manga artist in Japan. I do not speak Japanese and have been unable to find any way of getting in contact with him or anyone representing him. I have attempted to talk with the people who are in charge of brining the anime/manga to the United States but have not yet received a reply.

I have not lifted any art from any of the copyrighted Naruto work. This map was drawn by myself using the Naruto universe as theme.

As for you not being interested in it there isn’t much I can say. I put up the poll to ask people what they think about this map and the reception hasn’t been that bad (50% wanting to play and only 14% saying no) if there is anything specific you don’t like tell me and I’ll see what I can do.


Ask a japanese member of the site to translaye for you perhaps... I can't remember his name but doesn't the guy who made the British map live in Japen (although from the US originally...)

There really is not point continuing if at some point along the line it'll run into copyright issues. You need to be sure now, not later.
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Postby Unit_2 on Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:19 pm

i like it but the desert is way.... too big
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Postby joystickgenie on Tue Mar 13, 2007 11:18 pm

Unit_2 wrote:i like it but the desert is way.... too big


I agree. The problem I was having with that though is that as far as the plot from the show goes I ran out of names. So I’m not going to split up the desert into multiple territories but I think I’ll expand the temujin shores further north and the land of udon further west. The desert will still be pretty large but it won’t be so out of scale with everything else on the map.
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Postby joystickgenie on Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:24 am

Guiscard wrote:Ask a japanese member of the site to translaye for you perhaps... I can't remember his name but doesn't the guy who made the British map live in Japen (although from the US originally...)

There really is not point continuing if at some point along the line it'll run into copyright issues. You need to be sure now, not later.


As far as the copyright issue goes I have been trying to get in contact with anyone who has any kind of official relationship with naruto to get any kind of information but it has not been going well (no response from anyone)

I would be very thankful if there is a member on this website who does speak Japanese who would be willing to give me a hand with this.

I know that in general the anime/manga industry is very forgiving when it comes to copyright issues (just look at the relationship that they have with fan subs) but I am trying to get something official.
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Postby joystickgenie on Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:31 pm

ok I changed the map like discussed and shrank down the desert wast considerably.
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