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Petition For Dugcarr1 Back. Sign Up and Stick It To the Man

Postby what,me worry? on Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:57 pm

For all those who wish to not only stand up for the way Dugcarr1 was so irrationally kicked out without a due process, for those who are tired of the MODS taking apart our community and its rights to defend ourselves/ speech.
Most importantly, those who are thinking about leaving.........

I have heard left and right, talk about leaving CC from those who I have played with since I have been here and those before me.

So with that said, post here with your name and I'll add it to the list of people who are: 1. considering leaving CC
2. Those who disagree with the way Dugcarr1's situation was handled
3. Want the MODS to ease their grip on our society

So with that said, I'll be the first to sign up



1. What, me worry?
2. Hendy
3. Roger Dodger
4. Subjekt
5. Molacole
6. Wisse
7. paranoid-android
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Postby dominationnation on Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:59 pm

shut up with the dugcarr threads already
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Postby Iliad on Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:01 pm

I'll second dominationnation. Big deal!
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Postby Hologram on Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:04 pm

dominationnation wrote:shut up with the dugcarr threads already
I'll sign a petition for that.

Seriously though. Like it or not, the mods run the show because they can, and it's what lack wants them to do, and it seems that some have forgotten that this is LACKS site, not yours. If what he does causes people to leave then it's probably a good thing, making the site a much more pleasant place to visit and play in.
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Postby hendy on Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:13 pm

I'll sign!
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Postby wicked on Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:19 pm

Want the MODS to ease their grip on our society


Oh how ironic it is. We've always tried to keep to a hands off approach and for the most part let the community manage itself. We've been bashed left and right for this policy by people who think we don't do enough to those who are, in your words, making the site intolerable, with bad language, spamming, religious opinions, trash talking in game chats, and just generally offensive behavior. Then, when someone crossed a line no one even imagined was even there and does something so outrageous the entire community is in an uproar, only then, when we finally say enough's enough and DO something for the sake of the community, do we hear what's above. We will never please everyone on this site. Some say we don't do enough, some say we do too much. C'est la vie.
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Postby what,me worry? on Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:25 pm

Hologram wrote:
dominationnation wrote:shut up with the dugcarr threads already
I'll sign a petition for that.

Seriously though. Like it or not, the mods run the show because they can, and it's what lack wants them to do, and it seems that some have forgotten that this is LACKS site, not yours. If what he does causes people to leave then it's probably a good thing, making the site a much more pleasant place to visit and play in.


This is our site being we have all paid for its existence. Secondly, this is the "if you agree" not "I like to bitch about bitching", thanks
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Postby wicked on Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:26 pm

what,me worry? wrote:This is our site being we have all paid for its existence.


Excuse me?????
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Postby AK_iceman on Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:35 pm

I'll sign it.

I originally suggested that we ban everyone, but the Mod Squad wouldn't listen. Damn them. :lol:
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Postby AAFitz on Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:40 pm

wicked wrote:
Want the MODS to ease their grip on our society


Oh how ironic it is. We've always tried to keep to a hands off approach and for the most part let the community manage itself. We've been bashed left and right for this policy by people who think we don't do enough to those who are, in your words, making the site intolerable, with bad language, spamming, religious opinions, trash talking in game chats, and just generally offensive behavior. Then, when someone crossed a line no one even imagined was even there and does something so outrageous the entire community is in an uproar, only then, when we finally say enough's enough and DO something for the sake of the community, do we hear what's above. We will never please everyone on this site. Some say we don't do enough, some say we do too much. C'est la vie.


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Re: Petition For Dugcarr1 Back. Sign Up and Stick It To the

Postby Robinette on Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:41 pm

what,me worry? wrote:post here with your name and I'll add it to the list of people who are considering leaving CC

1. What, me worry?
2. Hendy


Go now, hurry... oh what a message it will send... not sure we'll recover, but please, LEAVE CC and we will promise to remember you for your protest...

and mods, ty for all you do... you just aren't paid enough for all this...
I would suggest that you should now get paid ice-cream breaks!
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Postby JimRocky on Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:59 pm

I'm more inclined to stay longer and be happier when I hear about smacktards getting the boot.
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Postby tahitiwahini on Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:20 pm

Well, I'm a civic-minded kinda guy, so what the hell, of course I'll sign the petition.

But somehow I feel I should be doing more...

What else can I do to promote cheating?

In other words, what else should I be doing to ensure the complete destruction of CC?

Granted, bringing back Dug would be a good first step, but surely there must be some other way I can help in this worthwhile cause.

I join in your outrage that the site mods have not stood idly by and watched everything they've worked for be perverted before their eyes.

I fear what CC will turn into without Dug as a role model.

Where will the innovative ideas that keep this an exciting site come from now?

Bribe a player to throw a game. Organize a series of fraudulent games to give points away to his friends.

These are ideas worthy of a genius. I worry that without Dug here, these innovations might never have seen the light of day...

... and we would all be the poorer for that.

Un-ban Dug immediately; a mind is a terrible thing to waste!!!!
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Postby what,me worry? on Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:34 pm

tahitiwahini wrote:Well, I'm a civic-minded kinda guy, so what the hell, of course I'll sign the petition.

But somehow I feel I should be doing more...

What else can I do to promote cheating?

In other words, what else should I be doing to ensure the complete destruction of CC?

Granted, bringing back Dug would be a good first step, but surely there must be some other way I can help in this worthwhile cause.

I join in your outrage that the site mods have not stood idly by and watched everything they've worked for be perverted before their eyes.

I fear what CC will turn into without Dug as a role model.

Where will the innovative ideas that keep this an exciting site come from now?

Bribe a player to throw a game. Organize a series of fraudulent games to give points away to his friends.

These are ideas worthy of a genius. I worry that without Dug here, these innovations might never have seen the light of day...

... and we would all be the poorer for that.

Un-ban Dug immediately; a mind is a terrible thing to waste!!!!


I agree that what Dug did was wrong, you guys seem to be missing the point....... Let me try you one more time.

Its the way it was handled. Multis get god knows how mant chances, yet Dugg gets the boot after one. Taking Dugg off the score system? WTF? Taking away his right to Rebuttle......... nice one guys, way to deny a man his basic freedom to defend himself. Cancelling games,....... WOW.....Do I even need to comment. Everyone needs to look past the person and look at the basic rights that are being denied. If the mods have a problem with us, then they get to shut us up, cancel our games (even after money has been paid for a service), and have idiot lemmings who dont read between the lines talk sh*t about someone who cant even respond. Sounds great guys. If this is the ideal image of what this site is, then please accept this as my resignation.

In rememberance of Koolbak.
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Postby AK_iceman on Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:37 pm

Yes, but multis typically only break 1 rule. Dugcarr broke many, and each punishment fit the crime.
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Re: Petition For Dugcarr1 Back. Sign Up and Stick It To the

Postby Kid_A on Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:40 pm

what,me worry? wrote:For all those who wish to not only stand up for the way Dugcarr1 was so irrationally kicked out without a due process


due process? this isn't a democracy. this is lack's world, and i think the rules are pretty clear. Play fair and you will be protected. Cheat and you're out.
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Postby Colossus on Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:43 pm

dug didn't get booted just for the whole bribe thing, man. he got banned from the pms and the forum for that. he got booted for being retarded enough to try to get back at Lack and the rest of the mod squad, as well as the rest of Conquer Club, by entering a bunch of games in which he deadbeat on purpose in order to give away his points and screw up the whole system. Lack clearly stated this here:

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... &start=330

in case you have a literacy problem....I suggest Hooked on Phonics...after all, it worked for me. Now get a life and quit whining about the dugcarr1 thing. If you truly feel the need to fight for something, find a better cause. If you have such a problem with the way the mods handled the situation, do what any responsible consumer would do and simply boycott the site.....in other words, LEAVE.
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Postby what,me worry? on Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:48 pm

Colossus wrote:dug didn't get booted just for the whole bribe thing, man. he got banned from the pms and the forum for that. he got booted for being retarded enough to try to get back at Lack and the rest of the mod squad, as well as the rest of Conquer Club, by entering a bunch of games in which he deadbeat on purpose in order to give away his points and screw up the whole system. Lack clearly stated this here:

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... &start=330

in case you have a literacy problem....I suggest Hooked on Phonics...after all, it worked for me. Now get a life and quit whining about the dugcarr1 thing. If you truly feel the need to fight for something, find a better cause. If you have such a problem with the way the mods handled the situation, do what any responsible consumer would do and simply boycott the site.....in other words, LEAVE.


Way to argue the point by attacking me. Nice one hero.

A service was paid for, (doesnt matter who paid it, his account is credited for $30) the service was not continued, which means the remaining money need to be returned. This isnt a cheap arcade that says no refund, at least I didnt read that in any disclaimer on this site, nor did I see anything similar when I paid for my account. The bottom line isnt just about Dug, its about the community giving full, unchecked, power to people we dont know, who can choose when they can cheat us of our money. Give the man his money back or let him play. plain and simple. He eraned those points fair and square, he should do whatever he pleases with them. While I dont believe its moral to dump points ( if that was he was even doing) its not illegal.
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Postby dominationnation on Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:55 pm

if you hate it so much leave


we will be much better off without you
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Postby tahitiwahini on Sat Mar 31, 2007 8:07 pm

what,me worry? wrote:
I agree that what Dug did was wrong, you guys seem to be missing the point....... Let me try you one more time.

Its the way it was handled. Multis get god knows how mant chances, yet Dugg gets the boot after one. Taking Dugg off the score system? WTF? Taking away his right to Rebuttle......... nice one guys, way to deny a man his basic freedom to defend himself. Cancelling games,....... WOW.....Do I even need to comment. Everyone needs to look past the person and look at the basic rights that are being denied. If the mods have a problem with us, then they get to shut us up, cancel our games (even after money has been paid for a service), and have idiot lemmings who dont read between the lines talk sh*t about someone who cant even respond. Sounds great guys. If this is the ideal image of what this site is, then please accept this as my resignation.


If you're point is that multis get too many chances, I'm with you on that one.

Dug didn't get the boot after one, he got a limited 4 month suspension of certain privileges. After he set up multiple fraudulent games and indicated he was going to continue doing so, he got banned.

The scoreboard is for active players, that's something Dug isn't anymore.

He will still be memorialized in Robinette's list of top scorers. Heck, even Dminus is there and he was a busted multi. So don't despair Dug will be there too.

His right to rebuttal. Please, every time the man opens his mouth he condemns himself. Go back and read all the game chat that has been posted by his friends. My advice: in the future if you're going to do something illegal don't broadcast that fact and then act surprised when you're caught.

Dug had ample opportunity to defend himself, instead he dug his hole deeper with every statement he made. If he'd had less opportunity to defend himself he might still be here. The last thing this guy needed was more opportunity to defend himself.

Canceling games. Good lord, do you want to look at which games were canceled. "Hi partner, I'm Dug and I'm going to help my friends on the other team get my points. Oh and by the way, I'm going to help them get your points too. Hope you don't mind." We certainly need more games like that. I, for one, am outraged, outraged! that Dug's doubles "partner" didn't end up losing any points because that game was canceled. What a shame! Bad, bad, bad mods. Dug's "partner" really deserved to lose his points. After all it was a fair game, it's not like there was any sort of collusion between Dug and his cronies on the other team. No. For absolutely no reason whatsoever these out-of-control mods just up and canceled the game. It's unbelievable the extent they will go to in order to thwart Dug in his attempt to scam the system. It's just shocking, I tell ya.

And don't even get started with the $20 refund. That's like getting sued by the burglar who breaks into your house for cutting himself when he broke your window gaining entry.

Talk about an idiot lemming. Talk about reading "between the lines." How about reading the lines. It's not even necessary to read "between the line" just read the lines themselves. Come on this isn't rocket science.

I've got no authority to accept you resignation, but I've got to tell you I really appreciate the gesture.
Cheers,
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Postby MorsGotha on Sat Mar 31, 2007 8:08 pm

I'll sign the petition. For your information I think Dug is an asshole. But then again I think Wicked in an asshole too. I cannot call Lack an asshole because he is far to clever to post very much to allow anyone to make an accurate opinion.

Also, I am an asshole. If anyone thinks they are not an asshole then they automatically are one.

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Postby Kid_A on Sat Mar 31, 2007 8:10 pm

MorsGotha wrote:I'll sign the petition. For your information I think Dug is an asshole. But then again I think Wicked in an asshole too. I cannot call Lack an asshole because he is far to clever to post very much to allow anyone to make an accurate opinion.

Also, I am an asshole. If anyone thinks they are not an asshole then they automatically are one.

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Postby hendy on Sat Mar 31, 2007 8:11 pm

AK_iceman wrote:Yes, but multis typically only break 1 rule. Dugcarr broke many, and each punishment fit the crime.


I think that ak,andy, wicked, and twilldo are multis.
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Postby b-b5 on Sat Mar 31, 2007 9:01 pm

I am all for sticking it to a man.

As for Dug, I dont know what he did so I dont know whether being banned is justified or not. From what I've seen the moderation here is pretty balanced.

I would guess Dug accepts he deserved to be banned, but again I dont know for sure
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