should tournie privs be granted for clans ?

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Should priviledges be granted for in-clan tournament and inter-clan challenges?

No - lack has already ruled this out - end of story
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7%
Yes- but let's wait for Rivals; it might be a long wait but it will be worth it
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Yes - no point waiting for rivals we need this now and its possible with our existing technology
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I'm neutral on this but wanted an option I could vote for
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should tournie privs be granted for clans ?

Postby rebelman on Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:14 pm

Currently tournament privileges are not granted for in clan tournies or inter clan challenges - please post your views in favour / against / neutral on this thread so they can be communicated to the powers that be on this site.

I will post my own views in a later post.
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Postby hwhrhett on Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:15 pm

lack has already made it clear that no such change in this policy will happen until rivals comes out.
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Postby rebelman on Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:20 pm

hwhrhett wrote:lack has already made it clear that no such change in this policy will happen until rivals comes out.


wicked suggested on another thread we should open up this discussion on its own thread so lets do that, worst case scenario it will fall on deaf ears but I suspect if we as a community can put together a strong enough argument coupled with a strategy for implementation he may be open to changing his mind.
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Postby gimil on Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:24 pm

rebelman wrote:
hwhrhett wrote:lack has already made it clear that no such change in this policy will happen until rivals comes out.


wicked suggested on another thread we should open up this discussion on its own thread so lets do that, worst case scenario it will fall on deaf ears but I suspect if we as a community can put together a strong enough argument coupled with a strategy for implementation he may be open to changing his mind.


As someone who visits the foundry often i would of thought that you would now its never that easy :)
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Postby rebelman on Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:55 pm

can a mod please fix my dodgy spelling in the poll as i can't :oops: :oops:
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Postby Optimus Prime on Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:57 pm

rebelman wrote:can a mod please fix my dodgy spelling in the poll as i can't :oops: :oops:

It's taken care of. :)
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Postby dominationnation on Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:30 pm

I feel it should be. I mean...its still a tourny. And its as public as a tourny with a score limit. Are we soon gonna say that we cant bar premiums, or low scores, or we wont get privs?
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Postby rebelman on Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:35 pm

dominationnation wrote:I feel it should be. I mean...its still a tourny. And its as public as a tourny with a score limit. Are we soon gonna say that we cant bar premiums, or low scores, or we wont get privs?


excellent point currently many tournaments are only open to players above or under a certain score. Likewise many are only open to premium players and some even overlap both - these tournies are clearly not open to all but currently they are allowed - this in effect shows a double standard as the primary reason given in the past is tournies should be open to all.
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Postby Gozar on Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:38 pm

rebelman wrote:
dominationnation wrote:I feel it should be. I mean...its still a tourny. And its as public as a tourny with a score limit. Are we soon gonna say that we cant bar premiums, or low scores, or we wont get privs?


excellent point currently many tournaments are only open to players above or under a certain score. Likewise many are only open to premium players and some even overlap both - these tournies are clearly not open to all but currently they are allowed - this in effect shows a double standard as the primary reason given in the past is tournies should be open to all.


I believe the argument here is that anyone has the ability to achieve a certain score, or buy premium with equal opportunity, where not everyone can join your clan.
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Postby amazzony on Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:44 pm

Gozar wrote:
rebelman wrote:
dominationnation wrote:I feel it should be. I mean...its still a tourny. And its as public as a tourny with a score limit. Are we soon gonna say that we cant bar premiums, or low scores, or we wont get privs?


excellent point currently many tournaments are only open to players above or under a certain score. Likewise many are only open to premium players and some even overlap both - these tournies are clearly not open to all but currently they are allowed - this in effect shows a double standard as the primary reason given in the past is tournies should be open to all.


I believe the argument here is that anyone has the ability to achieve a certain score, or buy premium with equal opportunity, where not everyone can join your clan.


I'm not for or against this topic as I haven't put much though in it and I almost don't care :roll: but what I would like to say is that not all people have money to buy premium (yes, I actually believe it) and not all people are capable of getting high score.
Don't get me wrong here - I'm not saying that tournaments like that shouldn't be organised but I'm saying that not everybody are capable of getting to those tourneys... ever :)
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Postby rebelman on Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:49 pm

Gozar wrote:
I believe the argument here is that anyone has the ability to achieve a certain score, or buy premium with equal opportunity, where not everyone can join your clan.


actually several clans have open recruitment and we consider members of all ranks and do not discriminate between premium and freemium so technically everyone could join my clan or at least one of the clans with open membership
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Postby Gozar on Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:00 pm

rebelman wrote:
Gozar wrote:
I believe the argument here is that anyone has the ability to achieve a certain score, or buy premium with equal opportunity, where not everyone can join your clan.


actually several clans have open recruitment and we consider members of all ranks and do not discriminate between premium and freemium so technically everyone could join my clan or at least one of the clans with open membership


I would like to point out that I was not specifically referring to your clan, or any specific clan.
Nor is this my argument, nor to I necessarily support it, but I have seen it used as an explanation somewhere before, and thought I would bring it to this discussion.
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Postby rebelman on Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:06 pm

Gozar wrote:
I would like to point out that I was not specifically referring to your clan, or any specific clan.
Nor is this my argument, nor to I necessarily support it, but I have seen it used as an explanation somewhere before, and thought I would bring it to this discussion.


no bother point well made just wanted to make the counter argument :wink:
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Postby Genghis Khan CA on Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:16 pm

I don't really understand why clan challenges have been denied tournament privileges for nearly a year! Seems simple to allow tournament games to be created as a stop-gap measure until rivals (finally) comes out, or even just create labelled private games. Trying to organise a clan challenge is impossibly difficult under the current rules.

On the one hand clans are being seemingly encouraged at the moment, with the ability to create usergroups being restored, but at the same time any clan momentum is being stifled as organising games is unneccessarily difficult!
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Postby Gozar on Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:24 pm

Genghis Khan CA wrote:I don't really understand why clan challenges have been denied tournament privileges for nearly a year! Seems simple to allow tournament games to be created as a stop-gap measure until rivals (finally) comes out, or even just create labelled private games. Trying to organise a clan challenge is impossibly difficult under the current rules.

On the one hand clans are being seemingly encouraged at the moment, with the ability to create usergroups being restored, but at the same time any clan momentum is being stifled as organising games is unneccessarily difficult!


Excellent point. The potential for abuse is here, but perhaps if one of the mods(Tournament Directors?) supervised this in some capacity?
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