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Re: NCIS Mafia [16/16] Day 1: Explosion in the Distance

Postby Mr. Squirrel on Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:16 pm

This discussion about yomiel is getting a bit ridiculous. He's a bit overeager, but that's hardly a negative thing. And on top of that, I don't think he needs "we move a bit slower around here" repeated to him by 10 different people. Once is well enough.

What's a little suspicious to me is the way jak111 placed a vote on him back on page 9 (I'll let you guys go back and search for it). Yomiel has been disagreeing with us, but I don't see how that makes him suspicious. It seems to me that jak was trying to turn some unpopular opinions into an actual bandwagon. unvote vote jak111

If anything, I would think that yomiel's eagerness is proof of townness. He surely wouldn't be so eager if he was scum. And even if he was just acting that way to fool us, I don't think he would have stuck with that same line of thought after you guys all started jumping on him.

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My job has me working 9-12 hours a day, so I can really only check this at night. I'm reading it all though, and I'll try to reply to everything that comes up.
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Re: NCIS Mafia [16/16] Day 1: Explosion in the Distance

Postby jgordon1111 on Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:18 pm

Mr. Squirrel wrote:This discussion about yomiel is getting a bit ridiculous. He's a bit overeager, but that's hardly a negative thing. And on top of that, I don't think he needs "we move a bit slower around here" repeated to him by 10 different people. Once is well enough.

What's a little suspicious to me is the way jak111 placed a vote on him back on page 9 (I'll let you guys go back and search for it). Yomiel has been disagreeing with us, but I don't see how that makes him suspicious. It seems to me that jak was trying to turn some unpopular opinions into an actual bandwagon. unvote vote jak111

If anything, I would think that yomiel's eagerness is proof of townness. He surely wouldn't be so eager if he was scum. And even if he was just acting that way to fool us, I don't think he would have stuck with that same line of thought after you guys all started jumping on him.

safariguy wrote:However, Mr. S just recently got back, so ionno if he's able to post regularly.
My job has me working 9-12 hours a day, so I can really only check this at night. I'm reading it all though, and I'll try to reply to everything that comes up.
jgordon wrote:Now if squirrell continues to act strange,it will be taken very serious by all.
Now how could a squirrel like me ever look suspicious?
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LOL well that was a hell of a good start.
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Re: NCIS Mafia [16/16] Day 1: Explosion in the Distance

Postby chapcrap on Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:30 pm

Third Official Vote Count:

crazymilkshake5
dazza2008
DiM: jgordon1111, thechuck51, happyfeet
happyfeet: isaiah40
Iron Butterfly
isaiah40:
jak111: jonty125, Mr. Squirrel
jgordon1111
jonty125: strike wolf
macbone
Mr. Squirrel: Yomiel
safariguy5: macbone
strike wolf
thechuck51
vodean
Yomiel: DiM, vodean, jak111

With 16 alive, it take 9 to lynch. Deadline in about 257 hours.
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Re: NCIS Mafia [16/16] Day 1: Explosion in the Distance

Postby jonty125 on Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:09 am

Well the votes are beginning to get serious so unvote the jokevote. I don't see any merit in lynching Yomiel, he might be slightly annoying but that doesn't make him scum.
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Re: NCIS Mafia [16/16] Day 1: Explosion in the Distance

Postby vodean on Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:28 am

Yomiel wrote:I was never just basing it off of one post. If I turn out to be right, you'll never forgive yourselves.

we are not saying you are wrong. we are just saying your case holds no water.
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Re: NCIS Mafia [16/16] Day 1: Explosion in the Distance

Postby happyfeet on Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:10 pm

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Re: NCIS Mafia [16/16] Day 1: Explosion in the Distance

Postby jgordon1111 on Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:21 pm

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Re: NCIS Mafia [16/16] Day 1: Explosion in the Distance

Postby isaiah40 on Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:42 pm

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Re: NCIS Mafia [16/16] Day 1: Explosion in the Distance

Postby strike wolf on Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:06 pm

Well I spent most of my time on today reading back through, going to keep this brief. I agree with Mr. S on the Jak111 case. The people who were voting Yomiel are as good a place to start from as any and Jak's vote is the one that stands out as it was the most serious of them. Unvote Vote Jak111

As far as Yomiel, I still feel you need to calm down a bit and maybe try not to hold out the victim card so much but I do think you have the potential to be a town asset as of right now though you've been a bit erratic. This will probably be the last I say on this.
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Re: NCIS Mafia [16/16] Day 1: Explosion in the Distance

Postby jak111 on Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:36 pm

strike wolf wrote:Well I spent most of my time on today reading back through, going to keep this brief. I agree with Mr. S on the Jak111 case. The people who were voting Yomiel are as good a place to start from as any and Jak's vote is the one that stands out as it was the most serious of them. Unvote Vote Jak111

As far as Yomiel, I still feel you need to calm down a bit and maybe try not to hold out the victim card so much but I do think you have the potential to be a town asset as of right now though you've been a bit erratic. This will probably be the last I say on this.


To explain my vote so it isn't taken wrongly, it's because Yomiel was being ignorant to other players. He seems to have cooled down for now however, so I will Unvote
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Re: NCIS Mafia [16/16] Day 1: Explosion in the Distance

Postby vodean on Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:15 pm

holy cow thats a lot of unvotes... unvote.

and jak, your unvote wont count
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Re: NCIS Mafia [16/16] Day 1: Explosion in the Distance

Postby Yomiel on Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:50 pm

I have no cooled down, just burned out. I don't want to be hated here, but it's clear this place isn't for me after all. The game has been open for DAYS, and NOTHING has happened. You all might prefer it that way, but it's torture for me.
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Re: NCIS Mafia [16/16] Day 1: Explosion in the Distance

Postby safariguy5 on Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:13 pm

Yomiel wrote:I have no cooled down, just burned out. I don't want to be hated here, but it's clear this place isn't for me after all. The game has been open for DAYS, and NOTHING has happened. You all might prefer it that way, but it's torture for me.

Well let's look at it this way:

On Mafiascum, you kept getting killed early, but that's best described as "action".

Here, we see a bandwagon form on you, which is also "action" but you don't like it. So everyone starts trying to calm down the emotions, and you complain nothing is happening.

So what I'm seeing here is that you want there to be "action" as long as that doesn't involve you being the possible lynch candidate. Which is inherently impossible in any mafia game because everyone has the potential to be the lynch candidate.
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Re: NCIS Mafia [16/16] Day 1: Explosion in the Distance

Postby dazza2008 on Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:14 pm

Yomiel wrote:I have no cooled down, just burned out. I don't want to be hated here, but it's clear this place isn't for me after all. The game has been open for DAYS, and NOTHING has happened. You all might prefer it that way, but it's torture for me.


I asked before but you never replied.

How do you expect to make a serious case with nothing to base it on? I am not suspicious of you and I think you probably are town but I want to know how we can make a case from thin air.
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Re: NCIS Mafia [16/16] Day 1: Explosion in the Distance

Postby Yomiel on Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:22 pm

No one usually WANTS to be lynched, and it's not about forming a bandwagon. You have to find suspicions where you can, and that's usually helped by people talking and voting as seriously as they can. On the first Day, cases aren't going to be built on a lot. By the time the second Day rolls around, you'll have stuff to go on based on the results of both kills and stuff like investigations.
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Re: NCIS Mafia [16/16] Day 1: Explosion in the Distance

Postby chapcrap on Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:26 pm

Fourth Official Vote Count:

crazymilkshake5
dazza2008
DiM: thechuck51
happyfeet:
Iron Butterfly
isaiah40:
jak111: Mr. Squirrel, strike wolf
jgordon1111
jonty125:
macbone
Mr. Squirrel: Yomiel
safariguy5: macbone
strike wolf
thechuck51
vodean
Yomiel: DiM

With 16 alive, it take 9 to lynch. Deadline in about 235 hours.

Mass unvoting. It appears things are getting serious. Also, I have edited rule 2a so that votes must only be in red and not red bold. However, I would really prefer red and bold.
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Re: NCIS Mafia [16/16] Day 1: Explosion in the Distance

Postby strike wolf on Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:29 pm

jak111 wrote:
strike wolf wrote:Well I spent most of my time on today reading back through, going to keep this brief. I agree with Mr. S on the Jak111 case. The people who were voting Yomiel are as good a place to start from as any and Jak's vote is the one that stands out as it was the most serious of them. Unvote Vote Jak111

As far as Yomiel, I still feel you need to calm down a bit and maybe try not to hold out the victim card so much but I do think you have the potential to be a town asset as of right now though you've been a bit erratic. This will probably be the last I say on this.


To explain my vote so it isn't taken wrongly, it's because Yomiel was being ignorant to other players. He seems to have cooled down for now however, so I will Unvote


Have to say the timing of this unvote is a bit suspect. others unvoting attention being shifted onto you.
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Re: NCIS Mafia [16/16] Day 1: Explosion in the Distance

Postby Yomiel on Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:32 pm

How do you mean?
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Re: NCIS Mafia [16/16] Day 1: Explosion in the Distance

Postby vodean on Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:39 pm

Yomiel wrote:No one usually WANTS to be lynched, and it's not about forming a bandwagon. You have to find suspicions where you can, and that's usually helped by people talking and voting as seriously as they can. On the first Day, cases aren't going to be built on a lot. By the time the second Day rolls around, you'll have stuff to go on based on the results of both kills and stuff like investigations.

well the game would have moved somewhere, but we were busy arguing with you.

We also use D1 jokevotes to build decent cases, and go from there as a starting points. lowers odds of a mislynch
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Re: NCIS Mafia [16/16] Day 1: Explosion in the Distance

Postby Yomiel on Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:48 pm

I stand by what I said. We need to get moving. The end of the Day and the Night will give up more useful information.
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Re: NCIS Mafia [16/16] Day 1: Explosion in the Distance

Postby vodean on Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:03 pm

well... now we have nowhere to go... so i went to random.org. and it told me to vote jgordon111
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Re: NCIS Mafia [16/16] Day 1: Explosion in the Distance

Postby vodean on Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:05 pm

the full list was:

jgordon1111
crazymilkshake5
jonty125
Iron Butterfly
DiM
Mr. Squirrel
Yomiel
macbone
safariguy5
shieldgenerator7 jak111 on Day 1
vodean
isaiah40
happyfeet
thechuck51
strike wolf
dazza2008
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Re: NCIS Mafia [16/16] Day 1: Explosion in the Distance

Postby jgordon1111 on Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:05 pm

Yomiel wrote:I stand by what I said. We need to get moving. The end of the Day and the Night will give up more useful information.


Last post from the MOD gives us about 230 something hrs left in this day.

So despite saying you were not trying to start a bandwagon on MS,You are trying to get out of D1 fast and into the night.

The only players who want to rush to a speed lynch of someone with little or no evidence are usually scum.

You have been hinting and saying we are moving to slow,As explained earlier that usually leads to a mislynch.Yet you persist.

But now you have straight out stated it. You say you have played on other sites,yes they move faster, but even there rushing into night with a speed lynch benefits scum.

Joke votes over Unvote Vote Yomiel

LOL fastposted by vodean. Thanks goodness for random.org I see it benefits us in more ways than just great dice ;)
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Re: NCIS Mafia [16/16] Day 1: Explosion in the Distance

Postby Yomiel on Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:16 pm

I already said why I wanted to move things along, and I still stand by it. it would be a real shame if you lynched me, though.
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Re: NCIS Mafia [16/16] Day 1: Explosion in the Distance

Postby DiM on Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:29 pm

yomiel, the rules of the game state this:

Day/Night Lengths

Day 1 will be 288 hours (12 days) from the time of the first scene.
All other days will be 240 hours (10 days).
All nights will be 72 hours.



as you can see day 1 takes 12 real days while all other days take 10 real days. the nights take 3 real days.
these rules were there when you joined and by joining you agreed with them.

so no matter how much you try to rush things the days and nights will still last that long. maybe for the next game you should pay attention before joining and pick a mafia with shorter day/night lengths.
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