Game chat on wall SD [Warned/noted] KRK

[gradybridges]

You may communicate with your actual team game partners whichever way you may chose. Wall - pm - forum - phone - craigs list....

I was in a random tourney/random formay torney and was with a doubles partner I never had before and I got this pm

gradybridges,

A friendly reminder from your cheating & abuse moderator for Conquer Club.

Game number:Game 8704503
Your wall posts on _HiTMaN_ have come to my attention.

You wrote:
done. I forted you heavy in one area. there should be no deffense where you will attack. by gradybridges on Fri Mar 18, 2011 4:27 pm

This is considered Secret Diplomacy and isn't tolerated in Conquer Club. If I had caught you in a non-team format (meaning doubles and you are on the same team as _HiTMaN_) you both would have a warning on your accounts. If another Secret Diplomacy infraction occurs in the future, you will receive an official warning. I am letting this one go without an official warning.

All current game communication must occur in the current game chat. Diplomacy includes, but is not limited to: proposing truces, negotiating alliances, and coordinating assaults. You can post on each other's wall "check game chat on game XXXXXXX".

If you have any questions regarding this communication to you, please reply back with your questions.

Thank you,
KRK

I asked him explain how talking to my partner was secret diplomacy. Got this

You are coordinating assaults between you and your teammate that should take place in the game chat. It should not take place between you and your teammates wall.

This email is not an official warning, just a reminder to keep your communications in the game chat.

I chalk it up to being new but it still makes no sense.

[Ace Rimmer]

That's a total fuckup by KRK, you did not break any rules there.

[Bones2484]

That's a total fuckup by KRK, you did not break any rules there.

Wow, that's a terrible terrible terrible decision by KRK and is setting a horrible precedent.

[Karl_R_Kroenen]

You may communicate with your actual team game partners whichever way you may chose. Wall - pm - forum - phone - craigs list....

I was in a random tourney/random formay torney and was with a doubles partner I never had before and I got this pm

gradybridges,

A friendly reminder from your cheating & abuse moderator for Conquer Club.

Game number:Game 8704503
Your wall posts on _HiTMaN_ have come to my attention.

You wrote:
done. I forted you heavy in one area. there should be no deffense where you will attack. by gradybridges on Fri Mar 18, 2011 4:27 pm

This is considered Secret Diplomacy and isn't tolerated in Conquer Club. If I had caught you in a non-team format (meaning doubles and you are on the same team as _HiTMaN_) you both would have a warning on your accounts. If another Secret Diplomacy infraction occurs in the future, you will receive an official warning. I am letting this one go without an official warning.

All current game communication must occur in the current game chat. Diplomacy includes, but is not limited to: proposing truces, negotiating alliances, and coordinating assaults. You can post on each other's wall "check game chat on game XXXXXXX".

If you have any questions regarding this communication to you, please reply back with your questions.

Thank you,
KRK

I asked him explain how talking to my partner was secret diplomacy. Got this

You are coordinating assaults between you and your teammate that should take place in the game chat. It should not take place between you and your teammates wall.

This email is not an official warning, just a reminder to keep your communications in the game chat.

I chalk it up to being new but it still makes no sense.

gradybridges is/was correct and I was incorrect and I apologize, yes I was very new.
I researched this (teammates posting on each others wall about strategy) and it seemed that it was acceptable.
(why wouldn't you just do it in the game chat? It is hidden from the other players/teams, other than flagging on the wall).

Again, I thought I replied to gradybridges after the above emails and let him know I was incorrect.
Not 100% sure I did that...

Back on Topic, Please...

[owenshooter]

so wait... now i have to post all my team chat within the game chat log or i am cheating? ok... that makes absolutely no sense... so label me a cheat...-the black cheater

[Night Strike]

so wait... now i have to post all my team chat within the game chat log or i am cheating? ok... that makes absolutely no sense... so label me a cheat...-the black cheater

Owen, do you read previous posts before you make your own? If you would read the post just above yours, Karl clearly mentioned that his interpretation of the rules was incorrect and that he apologized for issuing the incorrect ruling.

[Chariot of Fire]

I've been stuck with random team mates before and sometimes the only way to ensure they are reading the strategy (coz it appears some don't bother reading gamechat) is to post it on their wall.

[donkeymile]

Maybe its just me but I see NO PROBLEM with what was written on the wall of the initial post of this thread.

There was no specific information given and was really just a general strategy hint. Can't see why its garnered so much attention really ....

[support81ghent]

Maybe its just me but I see NO PROBLEM with what was written on the wall of the initial post of this thread.

There was no specific information given and was really just a general strategy hint. Can't see why its garnered so much attention really ....

+1 there was no cooperation, they didnt give out game information, they didnt have a diplomacy
(as far as we can see).

[Sword Master]

Maybe its just me but I see NO PROBLEM with what was written on the wall of the initial post of this thread.

There was no specific information given and was really just a general strategy hint. Can't see why its garnered so much attention really ....

+1 there was no cooperation, they didnt give out game information, they didnt have a diplomacy
(as far as we can see).

I don't think it's allowed to hand out tips to someone outside of gamechat in a game that you're in yourself unless you are teammates! I think that's the problem! But my knowledge is very limited so I might be wrong !

[SirSebstar]

No you are right, that is against the rules here.

All chat pertaining to gameplay shall be done in the game chat area of that game. Anything other then that is a violation of the rules. They will either get a Block from playing together in the future or a Warning. Either way it was a good call bringing it to their attention.

KS

The exception being teamgames, as correctly pointed out in the posts above, by KRK.

So even a subtle hint like that in PAF should be visible to all players. After all, you are not trying to hide anything right? Maybe you are letting your ‘friend’ know he is messing up, maybe you like him to feel endepted. Either way, ALL chat in a NON-team game SHOULD be in gamechat..
Simple, effective, and thus the OP’s reference wallmsg is indeed an SD. Luckily the first time is only a warning. No excuses, just say NO..

so says the Q&A guy

edited: KKR into KRK.

[Chariot of Fire]

Simple, effective, and thus the OP’s reference wallmsg is indeed an SD. Luckily the first time is only a warning. No excuses, just say NO..

How can you say "thus the OP's reference wallmsg is indeed an SD" when they were team mates?

Team mates can't have secret diplomacies, thus the OP's wall message is not an SD it is a perfectly legitimate thing to do.

[SirSebstar]

Simple, effective, and thus the OP’s reference wallmsg is indeed an SD. Luckily the first time is only a warning. No excuses, just say NO..

How can you say "thus the OP's reference wallmsg is indeed an SD" when they were team mates?

Team mates can't have secret diplomacies, thus the OP's wall message is not an SD it is a perfectly legitimate thing to do.

OH SNAP.
READ!!!!!
Game 8762095 is NOT a teamgame.
also

The exception being teamgames, as correctly pointed out in the posts above, by KKR.

Teammates can contact eachother any way they want, non teamgames cannot and should not, AS KRK ALSO SAID....

[Chariot of Fire]

doh! for some reason I was only reading from the top of p.2 thinking that was the OP.

Sorry Seb!

[SirSebstar]

doh! for some reason I was only reading from the top of p.2 thinking that was the OP.

Sorry Seb!

doh! indeed.. okay glad you picked it up now. Good to hear in fact and your post is appreciated.
Everybody makes mistakes, I am everybody too..

[Karl_R_Kroenen]

Cavill = warned
mumcoach = noted

[cavill]

Wow
Very sorry about that i as only trying to help as the other player as a cook just giving a bit of advice
Hope i never spoilt anybodys games on here by doing this.
Cav

[SirSebstar]

Wow
Very sorry about that i as only trying to help as the other player as a cook just giving a bit of advice
Hope i never spoilt anybodys games on here by doing this.
Cav

being helpfull is good, next time just post it in gamechat so everybody is equal.