Moderators: Multi Hunters, Cheating/Abuse Team
i was happy to leave this alone but farming new recruits is not allowed ..if u new he was multi why not post ... this post is about that i felt a pm to u was needed ...idc i have all the wall posts that clearly show you farmed this recruit only hes not new ...DBandit70 wrote:Game 18599831
Game 18599850 this is the game i figured out he was not a new recruit and he played 6 years ago that is when i decided to ask him to some games since he is not really a new recruit and i figured how could i get in trouble if he is not really a new recuit
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I lost 85 points against him how could you accuse me of trying to steal points and the response I remember that map. That's not my map. Lmao .............. [how can this member remember a board if its a new account ] i started a feudal epic poly 4 game because i want to be done playing him because I was losing to many points and I never asked him to join that game.
RoyalBeast wrote:I did play the game 6 years ago. Honestly don't remember my old account name. I enjoyed the game and wanted to play again. Registered it through Facebook with the same email that I used back then. I have no other account or anything. If this is truly a issue please give my money back. I would also like to say zeus111 has been relentless on this on harassing me nonstop. Making it a toxic environment

riskllama wrote:lol - why would somebody pm you, of all people, regarding a possible multi account? too funny...

+1Shannon Apple wrote:If Royalbeast is being honest about not playing in years, the admins/hunters will be able to tell. People who knowingly make new accounts to play the system get busted, but those who genuinely return after years do have an opportunity to get their old account back, or something to that effect. I'm not judging here one way or the other.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that it's been reported now. Leave it up to the powers that be to check into it. All the arguing is doing is making things worse.

i agree ..but honesty in cheaters is a rare commodity ..banned members were banned for a reason ...paulatpeace banned opens Gabriels hammer that account banned opens a 3rd to be wait for it ....BANNED!Shannon Apple wrote:If Royalbeast is being honest about not playing in years, the admins will be able to tell. People who knowingly make new accounts to play the system get busted, but those who genuinely return after years do have an opportunity to get their old account back, or something to that effect. I'm not judging here one way or the other.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that it's been reported now. Leave it up to the powers that be to check into it. All the arguing is doing is making things worse.

Shannon Apple wrote:I see. Okay, so he was banned six years ago. People do much worse crimes and do less time in prison. lol. To be honest, I think if someone was banned 6 years ago for being a dingbat, they are actually given a chance to appeal their ban. Some people never change and deserve to get re-banned forever, but some do, and to be honest, I think he should have the same right to the appeals process as all those before him. Some people who were given another chance are actually still on the site and behaving themselves.
So again, this one is going to be a case for the admins to decide. Of course this is all assuming he's telling the truth and really hasn't been playing in 6 years.

And that very well could end up being the result of their decision to move the player's premium over and unban the old account. I guess they handle these things on a case by case basis. While I was a community/chat mod, I am not well versed in this area of the site, so won't pretend to know the entire ins and outs. Only the jist.zeus111 wrote:Shannon Apple wrote:I see. Okay, so he was banned six years ago. People do much worse crimes and do less time in prison. lol. To be honest, I think if someone was banned 6 years ago for being a dingbat, they are actually given a chance to appeal their ban. Some people never change and deserve to get re-banned forever, but some do, and to be honest, I think he should have the same right to the appeals process as all those before him. Some people who were given another chance are actually still on the site and behaving themselves.
So again, this one is going to be a case for the admins to decide. Of course this is all assuming he's telling the truth and really hasn't been playing in 6 years.
again i 100 percent agree ... 6yrs does seem long enough ..but should have original account back not the second ....but thats just my 2 cents

As for this, it seems more likely to be a glitch in the software. This site is very old and ran on one of those open source forum softwares. Over time, there will have been so many edits by various different techies. It is very possible that somehow there are two different groupings for new recruits... One that allows wall messages and one that doesn't. I very much doubt that it has anything to do with them being multies. It's probably more likely to do with whether they signed up with facebook or email, or something equally annoying.zeus111 wrote: .i did pick up on a lil tid bit of info here id like to share ..last few weeks ive been sending new recruits here not one i could wall king archilles looked into it as well yet this new recruit i was able too ,,no delay what so ever ..i think its his old account that the member has that enabled me to wall him ect ...is this coincidence or a real easy way to discover multi accounts ...ka said him self he found it odd some not all new recruits could be reached ..
Shannon Apple wrote:As for this, it seems more likely to be a glitch in the software. This site is very old and ran on one of those open source forum softwares. Over time, there will have been so many edits by various different techies. It is very possible that somehow there are two different groupings for new recruits... One that allows wall messages and one that doesn't. I very much doubt that it has anything to do with them being multies. It's probably more likely to do with whether they signed up with facebook or email, or something equally annoying.zeus111 wrote: .i did pick up on a lil tid bit of info here id like to share ..last few weeks ive been sending new recruits here not one i could wall king archilles looked into it as well yet this new recruit i was able too ,,no delay what so ever ..i think its his old account that the member has that enabled me to wall him ect ...is this coincidence or a real easy way to discover multi accounts ...ka said him self he found it odd some not all new recruits could be reached ..

Yes, but what you're suggesting about the multi-detection isn't possible unless someone went to the trouble of writing some elaborate code to do that...zeus111 wrote:Shannon Apple wrote:As for this, it seems more likely to be a glitch in the software. This site is very old and ran on one of those open source forum softwares. Over time, there will have been so many edits by various different techies. It is very possible that somehow there are two different groupings for new recruits... One that allows wall messages and one that doesn't. I very much doubt that it has anything to do with them being multies. It's probably more likely to do with whether they signed up with facebook or email, or something equally annoying.zeus111 wrote: .i did pick up on a lil tid bit of info here id like to share ..last few weeks ive been sending new recruits here not one i could wall king archilles looked into it as well yet this new recruit i was able too ,,no delay what so ever ..i think its his old account that the member has that enabled me to wall him ect ...is this coincidence or a real easy way to discover multi accounts ...ka said him self he found it odd some not all new recruits could be reached ..
i was told just this past week new recruits walls take time to activate ...this was implemented a lil bit ago to prevent farming new recruits ... takes 24 to 36 hours it seems ...this members wall was active from get go

Shannon Apple wrote:Yes, but what you're suggesting about the multi-detection isn't possible unless someone went to the trouble of writing some elaborate code to do that...zeus111 wrote:Shannon Apple wrote:As for this, it seems more likely to be a glitch in the software. This site is very old and ran on one of those open source forum softwares. Over time, there will have been so many edits by various different techies. It is very possible that somehow there are two different groupings for new recruits... One that allows wall messages and one that doesn't. I very much doubt that it has anything to do with them being multies. It's probably more likely to do with whether they signed up with facebook or email, or something equally annoying.zeus111 wrote: .i did pick up on a lil tid bit of info here id like to share ..last few weeks ive been sending new recruits here not one i could wall king archilles looked into it as well yet this new recruit i was able too ,,no delay what so ever ..i think its his old account that the member has that enabled me to wall him ect ...is this coincidence or a real easy way to discover multi accounts ...ka said him self he found it odd some not all new recruits could be reached ..
i was told just this past week new recruits walls take time to activate ...this was implemented a lil bit ago to prevent farming new recruits ... takes 24 to 36 hours it seems ...this members wall was active from get go. I am a bit of a techie myself and I know forum software. It is almost definitely a permissions issue. The software wouldn't react differently just because someone is a multi.
But, depending on how this particular one is set up, it can be possible (depending on the software) for Facebook sign ups to have slightly different permissions than Email sign ups because someone made a misclick when setting up the group at the time. It's something that would take a little time to go through and find what's causing it. While it's not a big problem, it's one of those annoying fidgety things that can sometimes take ages to get to the bottom of and you need the time on your hands to find it.
I'm only guessing about the FB vs Email as a likely example. It could be one of a number of things I'm sure.
Every new recruit starts with their wall turned off by default, but it's a simple matter to go into settings and turn it on.zeus111 wrote:@shannon
site attaches cookies to our hard drives as do most perhaps its with in those cookies attached from past that allowed his wall to activate what else can it be ..all last week every new recruit cant post on ...this member no delay ...again im probably wrong just a thought i had really ...be good if true tho makes all multis very easy to bust
Dukasaur wrote:Every new recruit starts with their wall turned off by default, but it's a simple matter to go into settings and turn it on.zeus111 wrote:@shannon
site attaches cookies to our hard drives as do most perhaps its with in those cookies attached from past that allowed his wall to activate what else can it be ..all last week every new recruit cant post on ...this member no delay ...again im probably wrong just a thought i had really ...be good if true tho makes all multis very easy to bust
Yes, you might say "how would he know to turn it on?" but I think plenty of people go into settings as a matter of course when they join a new game, just to see what the settings are and what they do.
In any case, this debate contributes nothing. A report has been made. Let's wait to see what the C&A people have to say about it.
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