MODS who Misbehave + CC's dirty secret

[Murphalot]

#1). CC's player retainage waning for years - yet FREEMIUM tourny's for free CC credits fill up monthly - sometimes multiple runs.

several years back, a player let slip to me, they just make alts to get credits, whereby a 2nd player laughingly joked they did the same. I cast it aside in disgust for their lack of integrity and moved on. Seems its' a widely abused tactic - as is the collusion of using multi's to hunt opponents in Nuke & Fog games, that's never been cleaned up.

#2). What happens when a MODERATOR abuses their authority here on CC?
TeeGee, i prefer you not engage in the discussion for this answer, as that would be called conflict of interest, thanks.

#3). just had some dope run to daddy to say i'm breaking Rule #2 in guidelines. (I didn't) ....i had to leave wall message to ELUCIDATE/ELABORATE my game chat statements, cuz the guy was confused & i didn';t want to spam game chat.
Getting real f*cking fed up w/the double standards around here over the years.
Doesn't seem too clean of an honest environment w/the lack of ethics these days. i had the ethical sense to use WALL posts to make it clear i wasn't breaking Rule #2 ......doesn't seem to make a damn difference. Just shoulda used PM instead eh? I'm just too pure of mind for CC's toxic vibes.

What's goin on around here folks?
CC allows anyone to make alts to clean up on the free CC credits in the freemium tournys, where -thereafter-, those alts are used to beat up on over-trusting opponents in later games going forward.

Is this a long-standing crisis of moral bankruptcy on CC that everyone just shrugs their shoulders?
~Let's talk freely about this.~ (while remaining mindful that many of the honest players whom would normally be around to corroborate my concerns above, have they themselves, been censored & chased away from CC). And the time has long since passed to blame cratering user-ship on anything other than the obvious.
Thank You.

[Caymanmew]

Mods are just like anyone else, if they break the rules, they get in trouble. In fact, they often are held to higher standards than non-mods. There are multiple examples of mods being stripped of their status due to poor behaviour. (behaviour that wouldn't necessarily end in a ban for a normal members) I won't name names, as I don't believe those incidents were all public, but they have certainly happened multiple times.

[owenshooter]

1. Prove it. Saying something to push someone's buttons and actually being able to prove something are two wildly different things. I used to let slip in games that i had the dice hack enabled that was a 3rd party paid feature. I even offered my dice hack to others in the forums. Was this accurate? I will never say. Did people report me and take it for Canon? Absolutely. Did they ever provide factual evidence? Nope. Seems like you want to accept rumors as facts without any factual proof. Prove it. Put it in C&A and lay out your FACTUAL CASE. You can't just throw a wild rumor against the wall claiming it is fact and expect CC to act upon it. If that were how this worked, I would have been banned long ago.

2. i've only been here since '07 and have seen plenty of justice reign down upon both moderators and volunteers. So, I think CC does a good job policing their own. Wicked is a great example and let's not forget the ultimate price Insomnia Red had to pay for her transgressions. Who even knew that the death penalty was on the table here?

3. People are allowed to report things they think are wrong. Just because you feel they are errant, does not matter. They have the right to report issues they believe are infractions. Go look in the C&A forums for the multitude of times i was thrown to the mods in C&A for false/errant reports that were indeed not infractions. I didn't care and i still don't care. If someone disagrees with you using the WALL to communicate, let them report it and get a ruling. You can defend it. Why is this some huge sticking point for you from a game way back in 1912? Get over it.

4. If you have such an issue with the morality and the corruption around here, vote with your wallet and/or your feet.

-Don't pay for premium, I did that for many years, due to multiple issues i had with the site. Did i do much? Yeah, because others in my orbit did the same and that adds up monetarily to the site.
-Walk away and play somewhere else.
-Or how about you join the team/volunteer and help instead of beat the same fucking dead horse?

Truth is, there is no dirty little secret, just your list of personal grievances that you accept as Absolute Truths that are far from it and more like Personal Canon or a MANIFESTO...


Get over it... The black jesus has spoken...-Bj

**THIS POST BOUGHT/PAID FOR BY TEAM CC GIFTNG THE BLACK JESUS PREMIUM FOR A YEAR**

[SoN!c]

I want jesus noir as MOD! So he can enable dice hack for me!

[Keefie]

I want jesus noir as MOD! So he can enable dice hack for me!

SoN!c you have danced with the devil too many time to get help from the Black Jesus

[SoN!c]

I want jesus noir as MOD! So he can enable dice hack for me!

SoN!c you have danced with the devil too many time to get help from the Black Jesus

Only when i enjoyed Jesus his fine wine and playing it loud!

Fight
And dance with the Devil
The gates are open!

Let the wine come

[Donelladan]

What is an "alts"?

[IcePack]

What is an "alts"?

Alts = alternates aka multis

[Evil Semp]

TG did ask for opinions about this being secret diplomacy. I sad yes. You posted specific moves that you were making.

"i am in the process of migrating 65% of all my troops to the North (in the First Nations game). Recommend you factor that into your next deployments."

"It's best we avoid unnecessary loss/confrontation once i get to your Innu border, as well as Algonquin border."

" i'll propose a trace w/you officially in chat."

"the bonus i'm talking about sharing every 6 rounds, is the Arctic. and the place i'm referring to retreating from in the 6th round before the turnover"

In your opinion is this secret diplomacy? This is in a FOG game.

"He has nothing left to defend anything between POMO, to PAPAGO, to CHEYENNE"

All these posts were on another players wall.

[Ltrain]

I wish these people who constantly complain and threaten to leave would just leave. But they never do.

Basically anytime I'm reading a post now that has multiple fonts, colors, styles, I start scrolling quickly. It's a calling card of the most obnoxious people on the site

[TeeGee]

Basically anytime I'm reading a post now that has multiple fonts, colors, styles, I start scrolling quickly. It's a calling card of the most obnoxious people on the site

Interesting observation and very factual.

[plurple]

I wish these people who constantly complain and threaten to leave would just leave. But they never do.

Basically anytime I'm reading a post now that has multiple fonts, colors, styles, I start scrolling quickly. It's a calling card of the most obnoxious people on the site

But adding the occasional purple font is fun

[detlef]

I wish these people who constantly complain and threaten to leave would just leave. But they never do.

Basically anytime I'm reading a post now that has multiple fonts, colors, styles, I start scrolling quickly. It's a calling card of the most obnoxious people on the site

This is a relatively short post with A LOT of truth in it.

And, honestly, far more often than your self-importance would lead you to believe, you don't even need to say you're going. You can just go.

[Ltrain]

Plurple you get a pass

I wish these people who constantly complain and threaten to leave would just leave. But they never do.

Basically anytime I'm reading a post now that has multiple fonts, colors, styles, I start scrolling quickly. It's a calling card of the most obnoxious people on the site

This is a relatively short post with A LOT of truth in it.

And, honestly, far more often than your self-importance would lead you to believe, you don't even need to say you're going. You can just go.

[owenshooter]

Basically anytime I'm reading a post now that has multiple fonts, colors, styles, I start scrolling quickly. It's a calling card of the most obnoxious people on the site

Agree... 100%... They just need to go. the black jesus has spoken...-Jesus noir

[chanakam2020]

I am a Good Boy

[SoN!c]

The mods are doing a great job

Ask yourself one question: would you do it better in the long run? Nope! Would your best be about the same result?No? Thought so.. Yes? Then your one hell of a mod potential!

We all should say "thank you mods for all the work you do "

[xroads]

#1). CC's player retainage waning for years - yet FREEMIUM tourny's for free CC credits fill up monthly - sometimes multiple runs.

several years back, a player let slip to me, they just make alts to get credits, whereby a 2nd player laughingly joked they did the same. I cast it aside in disgust for their lack of integrity and moved on. Seems its' a widely abused tactic - as is the collusion of using multi's to hunt opponents in Nuke & Fog games, that's never been cleaned up.

#2). What happens when a MODERATOR abuses their authority here on CC?
TeeGee, i prefer you not engage in the discussion for this answer, as that would be called conflict of interest, thanks.

#3). just had some dope run to daddy to say i'm breaking Rule #2 in guidelines. (I didn't) ....i had to leave wall message to ELUCIDATE/ELABORATE my game chat statements, cuz the guy was confused & i didn';t want to spam game chat.
Getting real f*cking fed up w/the double standards around here over the years.
Doesn't seem too clean of an honest environment w/the lack of ethics these days. i had the ethical sense to use WALL posts to make it clear i wasn't breaking Rule #2 ......doesn't seem to make a damn difference. Just shoulda used PM instead eh? I'm just too pure of mind for CC's toxic vibes.

What's goin on around here folks?
CC allows anyone to make alts to clean up on the free CC credits in the freemium tournys, where -thereafter-, those alts are used to beat up on over-trusting opponents in later games going forward.

Is this a long-standing crisis of moral bankruptcy on CC that everyone just shrugs their shoulders?
~Let's talk freely about this.~ (while remaining mindful that many of the honest players whom would normally be around to corroborate my concerns above, have they themselves, been censored & chased away from CC). And the time has long since passed to blame cratering user-ship on anything other than the obvious.
Thank You.

CRAIG 2.0

[detlef]

Plurple you get a pass

I wish these people who constantly complain and threaten to leave would just leave. But they never do.

Basically anytime I'm reading a post now that has multiple fonts, colors, styles, I start scrolling quickly. It's a calling card of the most obnoxious people on the site

This is a relatively short post with A LOT of truth in it.

And, honestly, far more often than your self-importance would lead you to believe, you don't even need to say you're going. You can just go.

lol

[detlef]

#1). CC's player retainage waning for years - yet FREEMIUM tourny's for free CC credits fill up monthly - sometimes multiple runs.

several years back, a player let slip to me, they just make alts to get credits, whereby a 2nd player laughingly joked they did the same. I cast it aside in disgust for their lack of integrity and moved on. Seems its' a widely abused tactic - as is the collusion of using multi's to hunt opponents in Nuke & Fog games, that's never been cleaned up.

#2). What happens when a MODERATOR abuses their authority here on CC?
TeeGee, i prefer you not engage in the discussion for this answer, as that would be called conflict of interest, thanks.

#3). just had some dope run to daddy to say i'm breaking Rule #2 in guidelines. (I didn't) ....i had to leave wall message to ELUCIDATE/ELABORATE my game chat statements, cuz the guy was confused & i didn';t want to spam game chat.
Getting real f*cking fed up w/the double standards around here over the years.
Doesn't seem too clean of an honest environment w/the lack of ethics these days. i had the ethical sense to use WALL posts to make it clear i wasn't breaking Rule #2 ......doesn't seem to make a damn difference. Just shoulda used PM instead eh? I'm just too pure of mind for CC's toxic vibes.

What's goin on around here folks?
CC allows anyone to make alts to clean up on the free CC credits in the freemium tournys, where -thereafter-, those alts are used to beat up on over-trusting opponents in later games going forward.

Is this a long-standing crisis of moral bankruptcy on CC that everyone just shrugs their shoulders?
~Let's talk freely about this.~ (while remaining mindful that many of the honest players whom would normally be around to corroborate my concerns above, have they themselves, been censored & chased away from CC). And the time has long since passed to blame cratering user-ship on anything other than the obvious.
Thank You.

CRAIG 2.0

i was actually thinking it was one of his fan-boys that he got worked up to come in and start shit in his absence

[aad0906]

#3). just had some dope run to daddy to say i'm breaking Rule #2 in guidelines. (I didn't) ....i had to leave wall message to ELUCIDATE/ELABORATE my game chat statements, cuz the guy was confused & i didn';t want to spam game chat.
Getting real f*cking fed up w/the double standards around here over the years.
Doesn't seem too clean of an honest environment w/the lack of ethics these days. i had the ethical sense to use WALL posts to make it clear i wasn't breaking Rule #2 ......doesn't seem to make a damn difference. Just shoulda used PM instead eh? I'm just too pure of mind for CC's toxic vibes.

What's goin on around here folks?
CC allows anyone to make alts to clean up on the free CC credits in the freemium tournys, where -thereafter-, those alts are used to beat up on over-trusting opponents in later games going forward.

Is this a long-standing crisis of moral bankruptcy on CC that everyone just shrugs their shoulders?
~Let's talk freely about this.~ (while remaining mindful that many of the honest players whom would normally be around to corroborate my concerns above, have they themselves, been censored & chased away from CC). And the time has long since passed to blame cratering user-ship on anything other than the obvious.
Thank You.

Classic flame post. If you found infractions post them in C&A, preferably with examples and evidence. They are always handled promptly and with integrity. Do mods make mistakes? They are humans so I guess so. But I appreciate the tremendous amount of time and effort they put into the site for sometimes very little appreciation. Without mods this site would go under pretty fast.

and #3, pretty sure that is against the rules. Don't post game chat on anyone's wall (or PM), post it in chat, period. I report anyone who I see engaging in secret diplomacy on other people's walls.

[owenshooter]

and #3, pretty sure that is against the rules. Don't post game chat on anyone's wall (or PM), post it in chat, period. I report anyone who I see engaging in secret diplomacy on other people's walls.

Pretty much the point that is escaping him and exactly what he was told. In his world, that is fully within the rules. The rules are only applicable as long as they are as he sees they should be. The black jesus has spoken...-Jesus noir

[Murphalot]

Quite revealing, this feedback .
the responses here, combined w/recent lashing out at my expressions since about 2021, -so about 4 years now- denote tones of desperation from many here in the CC community. Most flak is dished out when you're over the target. .....not my first assumption to be frank, but that's now clearly denoted. I wouldn't have thought it was this easy.

It's clear now to us all, that this website is substantially dependent upon blind apathy & always allowing benefit of the doubt.
This place is saturated with cheaters.

Seems i am the pesky rookie police officer who drops by only once-a-while, now getting their flash-light too close to the dirt & everyone's getting nervous.... When i combine this analogy w/recent responses to other posts i've made: makes sense.

---- i've only ever had this 1 account on CC; no others. i've not once even subbed in for another account. so, the weird little references alluding to other users after quoting something i posted -whether this forum- or the 'All Topics' forum- only confuses me. I'm not in any polarized/fixated cults. Neither am i an enabler to other posters. Such yapping indicates a half-assed effort to drive attention in a different direction.

Joined a doubles game last week for the 1st time in a long while: 5 teams on a large map.... already TWO CHEATERS! ALREADY.
accounts made 7 days apart, played hundreds of games together, fleecing the f*ck out of their unsuspecting opponents.


........been wondering for a little while: Is CC now a staging ground for whom can simply achieve more leverage against their fellow multi-cheaters in the games you guys play w/each other? People whom formerly only used the 1 account they are allowed, gave up and now CC is fucking littered w/multi-cheaters that everyone shrugs a shoulder at and looks the other way?
So, is this how things are now (and have been for a while)

In Summary: i'm now 1 of the increasingly rare, HONEST people with INTEGRITY (read a dictionary you cheating fucks), while most others have incrementally acquiesced to a quietly cheating environment that goes unspoken about *hush hush* "don't say the dirty secret out loud!". Or perhaps, many players that still have not gone ahead with making multi's are just nervous about this place getting shut down sooner, than later, and are mad at me about spilling this horseshit out in the open too much?
This COULD have/SHOULD have been gong-ho, full-force, nipped in the bud. Now, that dishonest mindset has proliferated. And the overseers have lost control, and NOT just that!!!!.... excommunicated MANY former players for expressing concerns.

I'm so fucking fed up with the bullshit cowardice. and aaaaaaaaaaaall the ppl hucking feces at me, instead of supporting the truth. Choosing to participate in the cheating, or even just dumping their head in the sand, rather than also help shine a light on this crap. This is now a corrupt place, more than less. Just took me too long to realize it.

Can't play ANY Nuke games, can't play ANY team games, without bumping into multi cheaters . ...so the new mantra is: "don't talk about it, just try to beat them at their own cheating tactics by 'out-cheating' them."
uh yeah, count me out. And no i'm never going to stop calling it out.

[IcePack]

The C&A / MH are in place anytime you wanna make a C&A case. We find and bust multi's all the time (my last couple were just over the last few days) and the whole team does busts nearly daily / weekly. So I'm not sure how things have "never been cleaned up". Will we ever be 100% multi free? probably not, and even if we did it would likely have new ones created daily.
But we clean up the ones we find, and we are always looking. Feel free to point more our way.

[Murphalot]

Alright. Thank you IcePack.

I'll drop by with increasing frequency to decorate the place; see how much headway we can make.
prepare to Shit-can more cheaters, than I.C.E. deports smelly illegal migrant rapists. Otherwise i'll be disappointed.
I'm bringing receipts, dating back a few years to accounts that are still active.
Big names are involved in lieu w/long-time premium payers. Sentimental inclinations will need to be stomped. Speak soon.