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Re: Silver Bullet mafia (7/7)Day One

Postby aage on Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:10 am

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Dakky is mafia. 100% confirmed. Scum dont need to make a push on an inactive if they are not under threat.

If Dazza was anything other than town, this game might have progressed since my first post suggesting Dazza and Dakky as lynch choices. It has not. There clearly arent many town voices here.

Streaker is town. Aage is Dakky's partner. Hotshot is Werewolf.

Game Over.

QED

I don't think you used QED correctly here. You haven't proven anything. Also, why am I Dakky's partner? I am in no way part of the push on Dazza - in fact, I said lynching an inactive is a luxury we can't afford, which means I actually don't want to lynch Dazza. Surely in this case Mitch would be Dakky's partner.

Nice sweeping statement but you're completely basing it off your read on Dakky, the rest are guesses (and not even educated ones at that).
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Re: Silver Bullet mafia (7/7)Day One

Postby dakky21 on Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:13 am

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Dakky is mafia. 100% confirmed. Scum dont need to make a push on an inactive if they are not under threat.

If Dazza was anything other than town, this game might have progressed since my first post suggesting Dazza and Dakky as lynch choices. It has not. There clearly arent many town voices here.

Streaker is town. Aage is Dakky's partner. Hotshot is Werewolf.

Game Over.

QED


I wouldn't jump to conclusions this early in the game, especially being so sure about me. When I flip town, I'm sure you will be the next target.
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Re: Silver Bullet mafia (7/7)Day One

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:18 am

Dakky mafia - This is a fact. I hope you all can see it now.

Streaker - acting confused and has been making his usual town mistake of suggesting what others will say. Seriously stop doing that.

Aage - Avoiding being involved in anything scummy or the case on Dakky so that he appears to be strongly town. He is forgetting that I just made this very play with Streaker in the EoTW game. Posting "L-1", Lylo mechanics are strong ways to appear town without actually saying anything.

Mitch - Acting his usual self.

Dazza - Absent

We are lacking town thought process, pretty much all the actual thought is coming from me alone. Therefore Mitch and Dazza are town and represent 50% of our voice.

Hotshot - Acting very strangely for him, very much like he doesnt know exactly how to play his role. Aka Werewolf.

Prove me wrong Aage. Hammer Dazza. Doesnt matter when he flips town. You said yourself, we can afford a mislynch. We dont need the spare lynch, the game is over.

fp'd by Dakky. Thats not a defense. But its nice to know you both are watching the game intently to reply so quickly but yet didnt actually comment on Mitchs dodgy voting behaviour.
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Re: Silver Bullet mafia (7/7)Day One

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:20 am

dakky21 wrote:I wouldn't jump to conclusions this early in the game, especially being so sure about me. When I flip town, I'm sure you will be the next target.


Exactly. Mafia cant make these posts as they would get found out after the lynch and have to change their lies. So now you know that I am not mafia. You need to find two. So you say one could be Dazza. Who is his partner then?
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Re: Silver Bullet mafia (7/7)Day One

Postby aage on Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:58 am

I am not at all interested in being baited into hammering Dazza, especially before he has responded to his prod.
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Re: Silver Bullet mafia (7/7)Day One

Postby dakky21 on Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:01 am

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Exactly. Mafia cant make these posts as they would get found out after the lynch and have to change their lies. So now you know that I am not mafia. You need to find two. So you say one could be Dazza. Who is his partner then?


You clearly say yourself.... Aage isn't saying anything but he appears town and Mitch is playing his usual self. Dazza is absent and isn't saying anything.

If I had to pick one player who I think is scum, it would be Mitch for sure. The whole "don't want to lynch anyone" thing smells, then he wagons on me (after my joke vote), then I change the vote to Dazza and then he wagons on him also. Looks like he is willing to lynch anyone or have no lynch, as both ways would work for him.

Hotshot & Streaker on the other hand have posted more and I read them town or werewolf.
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Re: Silver Bullet mafia (7/7)Day One

Postby aage on Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:09 am

aage wrote:
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Aage Streaker - Thoughts? Madmitch is confusing things for me.

Mitch is a wild card, I'm not interested in lynching him right away because of that. In HP mafia he never removed his vote on day 1 without immediately re-voting, so that kind of speaks for him, but the problem with Mitch is that he has no clear tell because his town play is also very scummy.
The interactions between Mitch and others are more interesting though. I'm not sure how to read Dakky's vote right now. Combined with his provoking remarks towards Mitch, his vote on Mitch is a self fulfilling prophecy. I'm really not liking that, it's the easiest of easy votes. If Dakky never played with Mitch and hasn't realised that this is just what Mitch does, I could understand, but Dakky himself said he played with Mitch before - in fact, the entire interaction between them seems based on Dakky's reference to this. He voted Mitch in the full expectation that Mitch would vote back, and when Mitch does vote, Dakky says it's a scum tell. I really want Dakky to explain this logic. Why is it scummy that Mitch does something you predicted he'd do?


@Streaker, only 7 players in the game, small game like this it's easy to replace. If people aren't posting after a while but aren't being replaced, sure we can hang them because that's scummy. At the moment I don't think inactivity is any indication of scumminess though, we're way too early in the game.

Here's my comments on Mitch's dodgy voting behaviour, by the way. It's a response to your post, and you responded to this post.

I'm avoiding cases right now because everyone seems to be vote / trigger happy. I don't want to make hasty decisions because they are usually bad decisions. You ask me to hammer Dazza - what is the case on Dazza based on again? Inactivity. That's all. He posted once, and therefore apparently three guys think he is mafia (why else vote him), although I'm not sure all those who vote Dazza actually believe this. Hotshot voted Dazza to "put pressure on him", as an incentive to post. Mitch is, as you said, suffering from dodgy voting behaviour and he seems to be voting Dazza (a) because Dakky did, and (b) because Dazza isn't posting. I'll repeat, I do not at all believe that this is a valid case against him. Wait for the prod to resolve before you kill off absentees.


I don't like how we're now suddenly on opposite sides of the spectrum, Wing. You're antagonising me. You called me Dakky's scumbuddy but fail to give arguments. You claimed all actual thought process is coming from you, which tells me you don't think I've spoken out about my reads, which I have. Now you ask me to hammer a case which (a) you're not even voting and (b) is being voted by your top picks for werewolf and mafia. Any reason why I shouldn't OMGUS you right now?
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Re: Silver Bullet mafia (7/7)Day One

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:22 am

Aage - Because you know me to be town.

Correct, hammering Dazza would be a stupid stupid thing to do.

I'm waiting to see if you work out the actual viable alternative to you being Dakky's scumpartner. There is one other player who stands out. I want to know if you can tell me who this is.
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Re: Silver Bullet mafia (7/7)Day One

Postby aage on Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:34 am

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Aage - Because you know me to be town.

Correct, hammering Dazza would be a stupid stupid thing to do.

I'm waiting to see if you work out the actual viable alternative to you being Dakky's scumpartner. There is one other player who stands out. I want to know if you can tell me who this is.

- I don't know you to be town. How would I know this? Are you trying to replicate Storr's strategy? It's not working.
- I am not convinced that Dakky is mafia. His play is questionable but not scummy in my opinion, I don't see why a scum Dakky would go after Mitch so soon.
- Streaker would have to be Dakky's partner in your mind. Dakky is not necessarily scum though.


Right now I'm not against a Mitch lynch, but I'd rather wait until Dazza either returns or is replaced before I commit to a lynching vote.
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Re: Silver Bullet mafia (7/7)Day One

Postby Streaker on Sun Aug 16, 2015 12:17 pm

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Dakky is mafia. 100% confirmed. Scum dont need to make a push on an inactive if they are not under threat.

If Dazza was anything other than town, this game might have progressed since my first post suggesting Dazza and Dakky as lynch choices. It has not. There clearly arent many town voices here.

Streaker is town. Aage is Dakky's partner. Hotshot is Werewolf.

Game Over.

QED


I'd agree on dakky, i am wondering where your aage read is coming from. I'll post more tomorrow, not much time today (and slightly intoxicated which will not improve the next hours).

BTW wing, I noticed how you are playing the meta this game.

You dumped me in the Wheel Of Time mafia, sold me out without giving reason.
This game you are doing the same meta to dakky. 100% scum calling out, it reminded me of it.
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Re: Silver Bullet mafia (7/7)Day One

Postby dakky21 on Sun Aug 16, 2015 2:56 pm

BTW, dazza posted in Political Mafia, but not a single word here. Scummy.
Or he really doesn't have time to re-read the whole thread, anyway, I think he should be replaced.
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Re: Silver Bullet mafia (7/7)Day One

Postby Streaker on Mon Aug 17, 2015 12:50 am

Disliking wing's manipulative play here, but it does remind of of Storr's town play (yeah i know aage said something similar). The thing that really bothers me is his bussing play of dakky, that reminds me of the WoT mafia. I'd never lynch wing this day.

Dakky probable scum, it made no sense attacking and baiting mitch, and how he did it was even worse. Now switched to inactivity lynch. I'd lynch him today, but i've seen dazza around and i'd really like him to respond to the prod first.

HotShot said this as first, 99% ww this game.

Funny note, I'd expect a scumpair of aage and wing to play exactly like this...

Mitch, who would be your choice of the day to lynch? And why?
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Re: Silver Bullet mafia (7/7)Day One

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Mon Aug 17, 2015 1:29 am

Streaker wrote:BTW wing, I noticed how you are playing the meta this game.
You dumped me in the Wheel Of Time mafia, sold me out without giving reason.
This game you are doing the same meta to dakky. 100% scum calling out, it reminded me of it.


Do you really think that I havent given reasons for Dakky lynch? I had no choice with EoTW, but I did not bus you until the fakeclaim came out that would not have lasted, at which point I wanted to be seen to be lynching you. Here I have built the case and pushed the case from nothing, not a great move when losing your partner would be a great loss. So no this is nothing like the same. However, no matter how Dakky flips I do expect to come under pressure tomorrow if I am still alive.

Streaker wrote:Funny note, I'd expect a scumpair of aage and wing to play exactly like this...


To be honest, I suspect so too.

Where is Dazza! Two days left for him to make his reads.
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Re: Silver Bullet mafia (7/7)Day One

Postby Streaker on Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:00 am

Wing, say we lynch dakky:

-He flips scum, who you go after next?
-He flips town, what are your conclusions?

To all:

If dazza shows up and gives us not much to work with, and we would lynch him:

-He flips scum, we go after dakky next day.
-He flips town, we'd still go after dakky next day.

If you look at it like this we should 100% of the time lynch dakky over dazza first, depending on what dazza has to say.
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Re: Silver Bullet mafia (7/7)Day One

Postby aage on Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:52 am

If Dakky flips town we should go after Wing. If Dakky flips scum we should go after Mitch, or possibly me.

Since the deadline is tomorrow I'll vote Dakky. I read him town but it's a lot better than a Dazza lynch.
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Re: Silver Bullet mafia (7/7)Day One

Postby Streaker on Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:13 am

Dazza was online, he even posted in political mafia. Since mod confirmed he was prodded, we should get a replacement for him.

Aage, I don't think a dakky-mitch scumpair would pull that kind of exchange off. Your ' I read dakky town but i'll vote him anyway' is also weird. If you read dakky as town, then who is your biggest scumread?

Also i already said that dakky>dazza lynch right now. And with deadline approaching I'll have to vote.

Vote dakky
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Re: Silver Bullet mafia (7/7)Day One

Postby madmitch on Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:16 am

@ Streaker I have Daz up for the vote because he is not playing and there should be no reason for that he,s playing in the other game,also I am wary of Dakky he play is unreasonable, he acts like he has a feud against me and I tried to settle it by a no vote against him but it,s looking more and more that I will vote for him if Daz will answer for his non-playing without sounding like scum, also Hot shot a good person for the WW vote. I am game for any vote at this second.
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Re: Silver Bullet mafia (7/7)Day One

Postby aage on Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:31 am

Streaker wrote:Dazza was online, he even posted in political mafia. Since mod confirmed he was prodded, we should get a replacement for him.

Aage, I don't think a dakky-mitch scumpair would pull that kind of exchange off. Your ' I read dakky town but i'll vote him anyway' is also weird. If you read dakky as town, then who is your biggest scumread?

Also i already said that dakky>dazza lynch right now. And with deadline approaching I'll have to vote.

Vote dakky

My scumreads are completely blurred because I always go off who I think is town. This game is too small for that strat though because only half of you are town. Therefore I second guess every read I make, so I have serious trouble calibrating. Currently I'd say Mitch and Wing are high on the scum list, but I have just a gut read which I can't put in words. Wing's confidence in his reads also speaks town to me despite my gut.

My town reading Dakky was based on my impression that he was picking fights with multiple people. Mitch said Dakky has a feud against him - wrong, the feud is with Wing. Wing's latest post of the parallel between a different game and Dakky's post on trusting wing actually made me more wary of Wing than of Dakky.


I concede that other people have a scum read on Dakky though, which means the other townies are reading him scum too. I'd rather follow them than have a wasted vote, or none at all. Besides, lynching Dakky will help me greatly on reading Wing.
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Re: Silver Bullet mafia (7/7)Day One

Postby dakky21 on Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:11 am

Guys, you've put me to L-1 and I already claimed.
I don't know what to say, except if you lynch me, you will have 3 town vs 2 mafia tonight.
That means D2 starts with 2 town and 2 mafia. Good luck town when that happens.
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Re: Silver Bullet mafia (7/7)Day One

Postby madmitch on Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:02 am

Enough is enough lets hammer this UNVOTE VOTE DAKKY let the chips fall where they fall =D> =D>
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Re: Silver Bullet mafia (7/7)Day One

Postby Endgame422 on Mon Aug 17, 2015 4:58 pm

Official Vote Count
Dakky(1):Wing,Aage,Streaker,Mitch
Dazza(2):HotShot,dakky,

Dakky21,Vanilla Mafia Goon,has been lynched.
If you have a NA,please send it in(even if your choosing to hold)asap and we will move on to the next day.
Also im gonna send a second prod to dazza,if nothing ill get us a replacement in the works.
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Re: Silver Bullet mafia (6/7)Night one

Postby madmitch on Tue Aug 18, 2015 6:18 am

nicely played guys, one mafia left and ww who we know is hotshot, go town go =D> =D>
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Re: Silver Bullet mafia (6/7)Night one

Postby Streaker on Tue Aug 18, 2015 6:21 am

madmitch wrote:nicely played guys, one mafia left and ww who we know is hotshot, go town go =D> =D>


Sshhhht, no talking at night.
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Re: Silver Bullet mafia (4/7)Day two

Postby Endgame422 on Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:07 am

The townsfolk had gone to bed exuberant over the lynch of dakky thinking the future of their little village was looking bright, but the cold light of day revealed things that werent as simple as everyone had believed.

Aage,Vanilla Towniehas been found dead on his kitchen floor,a muffin still clutched in his right hand.

Dazza2008,Vanilla Towniie has also been found dead,he was found in the gutter beside the pub where he had spent most of day one.
Day two begins now.
With 4 alive it takes 3 to lynch.
Deadline will be August 25/26.
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Re: Silver Bullet mafia (6/7)Night one

Postby Streaker on Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:25 am

So Mitch, who'd you shoot last night and why?
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