Valkyria Chronicles Mafia - Gallia (Town) Victory!

[edocsil]

Blow me. You're in no danger of being lynched.

As flores said, there is just no case. Admit that its a random lynch at best or piss off, I'm not impressed.

I mean seriously. I expected way too much here I guess.

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Are you on the rag? It's a game, it's day one, and you made an ass out of yourself attacking me with that vote... I waited until now to vote because, so far, you are the scummiest person in the game. You have no other ideas but to tell me to blow you? Get over yourself, Edoc... Seriously.

What, these a reason 3 out of 18 people have picked this up. All you got is an OMGUS and vote you didn't like, but that I was able to decently rationalize.

You have it right there, the only reason I am getting voted is that I'm an ass. Woopie, don't expect me to respect this, or to take it seriously.

[new guy1]

Blow me. You're in no danger of being lynched.

As flores said, there is just no case. Admit that its a random lynch at best or piss off, I'm not impressed.

I mean seriously. I expected way too much here I guess.

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Are you on the rag? It's a game, it's day one, and you made an ass out of yourself attacking me with that vote... I waited until now to vote because, so far, you are the scummiest person in the game. You have no other ideas but to tell me to blow you? Get over yourself, Edoc... Seriously.

What, these a reason 3 out of 18 people have picked this up. All you got is an OMGUS and vote you didn't like, but that I was able to decently rationalize.

You have it right there, the only reason I am getting voted is that I'm an ass. Woopie, don't expect me to respect this, or to take it seriously.

You'd be doing yourself and town more favors if you answered as to why you STILL haven't unvoted if you didn't see a case. Honestly if I weren't so lazy, I would go back to find how many votes it takes to lynch someone currently and I would vote you, but because I am so lazy, and therefore am uninformed, I will choose to say they aren't the only ones that support the votes on you, because it is a pretty good day 1 case, as far as the circumstances. I mean, we had 5 days last I saw and we've used at least a couple, we have to get a claim today or make a lynch for information, and you come and put a questionable post. Even when there is no point to the confusion, the person always has the most votes and gets pushed to claim anyways. Its how day 1 works.

[new guy1]

Blow me. You're in no danger of being lynched.

As flores said, there is just no case. Admit that its a random lynch at best or piss off, I'm not impressed.

I mean seriously. I expected way too much here I guess.

....

Are you on the rag? It's a game, it's day one, and you made an ass out of yourself attacking me with that vote... I waited until now to vote because, so far, you are the scummiest person in the game. You have no other ideas but to tell me to blow you? Get over yourself, Edoc... Seriously.

What, these a reason 3 out of 18 people have picked this up. All you got is an OMGUS and vote you didn't like, but that I was able to decently rationalize.

You have it right there, the only reason I am getting voted is that I'm an ass. Woopie, don't expect me to respect this, or to take it seriously.

You'd be doing yourself and town more favors if you answered as to why you STILL haven't unvoted if you didn't see a case. Honestly if I weren't so lazy, I would go back to find how many votes it takes to lynch someone currently and I would vote you, but because I am so lazy, and therefore am uninformed, I will choose to say they aren't the only ones that support the votes on you, because it is a pretty good day 1 case, as far as the circumstances. I mean, we had 5 days last I saw and we've used at least a couple, we have to get a claim today or make a lynch for information, and you come and put a questionable post. Even when there is no point to the confusion, anyone who makes a post that gets questioned always has the most votes and gets pushed to claim anyways. Its how day 1 works.

Bolded EBWOP for better clarity.

[Anarkistsdream]

Blow me. You're in no danger of being lynched.

As flores said, there is just no case. Admit that its a random lynch at best or piss off, I'm not impressed.

I mean seriously. I expected way too much here I guess.

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Are you on the rag? It's a game, it's day one, and you made an ass out of yourself attacking me with that vote... I waited until now to vote because, so far, you are the scummiest person in the game. You have no other ideas but to tell me to blow you? Get over yourself, Edoc... Seriously.

What, these a reason 3 out of 18 people have picked this up. All you got is an OMGUS and vote you didn't like, but that I was able to decently rationalize.

You have it right there, the only reason I am getting voted is that I'm an ass. Woopie, don't expect me to respect this, or to take it seriously.

And if I viewed this as typical, maybe I wouldn't have voted you. But a temper tantrum gets us nowhere except up your ass. Deal with it and make wellthough out arguments. Name calling with no reason earns my vote

Fastposted with abetter post. What is your prob, Edoc...? You usually are not like this... Septic shock? Try removing the first tampon before ramming the next one in.

[edocsil]

Blow me. You're in no danger of being lynched.

As flores said, there is just no case. Admit that its a random lynch at best or piss off, I'm not impressed.

I mean seriously. I expected way too much here I guess.

....

Are you on the rag? It's a game, it's day one, and you made an ass out of yourself attacking me with that vote... I waited until now to vote because, so far, you are the scummiest person in the game. You have no other ideas but to tell me to blow you? Get over yourself, Edoc... Seriously.

What, these a reason 3 out of 18 people have picked this up. All you got is an OMGUS and vote you didn't like, but that I was able to decently rationalize.

You have it right there, the only reason I am getting voted is that I'm an ass. Woopie, don't expect me to respect this, or to take it seriously.

And if I viewed this as typical, maybe I wouldn't have voted you. But a temper tantrum gets us nowhere except up your ass. Deal with it and make wellthough out arguments. Name calling with no reason earns my vote

Fastposted with abetter post. What is your prob, Edoc...? You usually are not like this... Septic shock? Try removing the first tampon before ramming the next one in.

Unvote to get Newguys panties out of a twist. I note that you don't care about the 2-3 other votes lying around.

Insults aside Anark, when am I not a dick to stupid actions? I mad my arguments, and you three don't care. I'll do it again.

A: The vote you placed made no sense to me. I did not understand it, and that is the EXACT same reason that you three are voting me now. You do not understand the WHY of my vote. I voted you for your action, this forces an explanation from you. Feel free to disagree if it was vote worthy, but that was the exact action and reaction that I intended, and that I provoked. It promotes discussion, ends the joke phase, and gives us actual content that we can later discuss. THIS INCIDATES PROTOWN BEHAVIOR

B: You clarified it was a jest, and that should of been the end of it. I would expect there to be discussion afterwards, but not focused around hanging you provide that your reasoning was sound.

C: Jonty and Ker jump me for it. I don't get why. (Note: hypocrisy here, their argument, the act that an invalid vote is scummy, is the same as mine. Their argument is entirely self defeating, because it validates my primary vote.) The vote wasn't unreasonable. (Can someone back me up on this here, or does everyone just want to watch us belittle each-other?)

D: I explain why I voted, and it's insisted by you three that it was so scummy, and that I didn't unvote was a surefire scum tell. This simply stupid opinion runs counter to all logic (referencing my lack of unvote). There are MANY other votes on the field ATM, that have far less, or similar amounts of thought behind them than mine. DO NOT pretend that this part of your argument is totally, utterly, and completely invalid.

There is a VC, page 12, edited to present

Votey County:

virus90 - 1 (Flores)
gregwolf121 - 3 (TFO)
Commander9 - 3 (HotShot, ga7, Saf5)
HotShot53 - 1 (epic pie)
JamesKer1 - 1 (rish)
ga7 - 1 (TWO)
Flores - 1 (Nark)
Edoc'sil - 3 (James, jonty Anark)

So there, there is my argument. Cut the period jokes and deal with that if you can Anark.

[safariguy5]

Okay... So I see these 3 stages in our game so far:
1. Confirm/Joke Vote
2. Thanksgiving/Replacing Epicpie
3. Serious talk/discussion caused by edoc's vote/jonty subsequent vote on him.
Phasing into the Lynch? phase maybe.
All in all with the ever decreasing number of people required to lynch I am somewhat hesitant, however I see no other option.
Voting Comm9 isn't a viable route currently, and Saf should know that when Comm goes inactive he goes inactive no amount of pressure is bringing him back. Therefor Vote Safariguy5

If he's inactive and stays inactive, this could drag down discussion and possibly bog the game down later on. You know that I'm usually a proponent of cutting dead weight early to prevent problems later. But now that Com is back with a bit of a joke vote, I suppose I can let it slide for now. Not thrilled about the tone or target of his post, but I don't want to move the goalposts so I will unvote for now.

As for this edoc case, I really don't see it. Props for trying to make something out of very little newguy, but I don't think this little vote from edoc warrants the case. If you look at the timing of the vote, nothing there indicates to me that there is anything scummy about it. He wasn't trying to divert an active wagon, he wasn't trying to stealth lynch someone, I just can't see how that vote was scummy.

[new guy1]

I understand that, however I saw it from jonty's perspective and went on it. I only made one post, yet Ive seen my name in particular multiple times. I did not place a vote because I did not know the vote count and he cleared it up with his defense, so it is unnecessary. I dont care about the votes that are laying around because their reasons for voting were not questionable. Thats all from me for now.

[TheForgivenOne]

Okay... So I see these 3 stages in our game so far:
1. Confirm/Joke Vote
2. Thanksgiving/Replacing Epicpie
3. Serious talk/discussion caused by edoc's vote/jonty subsequent vote on him.
Phasing into the Lynch? phase maybe.
All in all with the ever decreasing number of people required to lynch I am somewhat hesitant, however I see no other option.
Voting Comm9 isn't a viable route currently, and Saf should know that when Comm goes inactive he goes inactive no amount of pressure is bringing him back. Therefor Vote Safariguy5

If he's inactive and stays inactive, this could drag down discussion and possibly bog the game down later on. You know that I'm usually a proponent of cutting dead weight early to prevent problems later. But now that Com is back with a bit of a joke vote, I suppose I can let it slide for now. Not thrilled about the tone or target of his post, but I don't want to move the goalposts so I will unvote for now.

As for this edoc case, I really don't see it. Props for trying to make something out of very little newguy, but I don't think this little vote from edoc warrants the case. If you look at the timing of the vote, nothing there indicates to me that there is anything scummy about it. He wasn't trying to divert an active wagon, he wasn't trying to stealth lynch someone, I just can't see how that vote was scummy.

First of all Unvote

I agree with Saf here really. James (And in turn Jonty) jumped on really jumped hard on it, as if he came out and actually admitted "I'm a bad guy... guys". Mainly James, his reaction to it really made my own ">.>" Meter ding up a level or two.

[rishaed]

Unvote to get Newguys panties out of a twist. I note that you don't care about the 2-3 other votes lying around.

Insults aside Anark, when am I not a dick to stupid actions? I mad my arguments, and you three don't care. I'll do it again.

A: The vote you placed made no sense to me. I did not understand it, and that is the EXACT same reason that you three are voting me now. You do not understand the WHY of my vote. I voted you for your action, this forces an explanation from you. Feel free to disagree if it was vote worthy, but that was the exact action and reaction that I intended, and that I provoked. It promotes discussion, ends the joke phase, and gives us actual content that we can later discuss. THIS INCIDATES PROTOWN BEHAVIOR

B: You clarified it was a jest, and that should of been the end of it. I would expect there to be discussion afterwards, but not focused around hanging you provide that your reasoning was sound.

C: Jonty and Ker jump me for it. I don't get why. (Note: hypocrisy here, their argument, the act that an invalid vote is scummy, is the same as mine. Their argument is entirely self defeating, because it validates my primary vote.) The vote wasn't unreasonable. (Can someone back me up on this here, or does everyone just want to watch us belittle each-other?)

D: I explain why I voted, and it's insisted by you three that it was so scummy, and that I didn't unvote was a surefire scum tell. This simply stupid opinion runs counter to all logic (referencing my lack of unvote). There are MANY other votes on the field ATM, that have far less, or similar amounts of thought behind them than mine. DO NOT pretend that this part of your argument is totally, utterly, and completely invalid.

There is a VC, page 12, edited to present

Votey County:

virus90 - 1 (Flores)
gregwolf121 - 3 (TFO)
Commander9 - 3 (HotShot, ga7, Saf5)
HotShot53 - 1 (epic pie)
JamesKer1 - 1 (rish)
ga7 - 1 (TWO)
Flores - 1 (Nark)
Edoc'sil - 3 (James, jonty Anark)

So there, there is my argument. Cut the period jokes and deal with that if you can Anark.

This part is the major reason I'm not voting Edoc right now. As stated earlier his post was the action that caused us to move out of the joke vote stage, which was and is still currently an extremely important shift. Also I will also return to unvote. I would not mind having a claim from today however, but with ever changing lynch requirements I am unsure of where we stand on the amount of votes needed. Getting a claim from at least one side of the Edoc/Jonty/James dispute will be worthwhile. I have a nagging feeling though that this is somewhat town on town right now with scum sitting back and laughing at us.

[FloresDelMal]

Vote Flores because I've not seen her in forever and it's about time I voted someone who was French.

Oh no you didn't cant beliave that you called me french *pokes commander with a stick* i wont even honour you with my vote

*handles "happy" brownies to anarks and edoc* dear sirs chill out, you vote are good and most of the time reasonable players, and what's going on now seems more like a battle of the ego than any real scum tale based case.

btw my day one vote has not moved, and i know that i was kinda mean in the way i phrased it, but there was some substance to it, i mean as meaty as a day 1 vote can likely to be

so it is valkyria vs Darcsen? and valkyria being town? i dont know a thing about this theme. any suggested reading?
and probably the day 1 rule is due to my concerns but i like the rule, think we should have enough time (about 1 week, for day 1 i guess).

vote virus because he have poor reading and/or comprehension skills that might prove detrimental to town in the future

My point was that if you start by even skimming the opening scene we are not on the presence of the most promising performance, to me seems pretty evident that the darcsen are a discriminated minority which is victim of a senseless witch hunt not unlikely jewish, homosexuals and gipsies (amongst others) during the world war that this theme is loosely based on; so my vote stays where it is, because i will certainly wont miss a player that thinks things are so black and white as valkyrians v/s darcsens, in a game that i hope it will be so much more complex than that.

Nag: if i had a protective role my action would go to you, but lately i get stucked with the lamest roles ever :B but since i cant do a thing for you on game, i can do something for you IRL, i have a guest room with your name on it, whenever you want

[FloresDelMal]

err i meant : sires you are both (not vote damn it, i must stop thinking in spanish, this is getting embarrassing :B )

[Minister Masket]

DID YOU KNOW THAT IF ANYONE IS ON 2 VOTES BY MIDNIGHT, THEY GO BYE-BYE? ^^

When I'm home later I'll be online at 12 GMT to monitor the votes. I've been at Uni all day unfortunately. Busy times.

[rishaed]

Oh dear....vote No Lynch overall this day has been highly unproductive, and lynching someone wouldn't have that great of a information spike with only 2 votes.

[Commander9]

@ Edoc "case"

The whole thing is blowned out of proportion. I'm not sure when this happened, but there's much more ad hominem attacks then it used to be and people in general seem way too trigger happy.

If he's inactive and stays inactive, this could drag down discussion and possibly bog the game down later on. You know that I'm usually a proponent of cutting dead weight early to prevent problems later. But now that Com is back with a bit of a joke vote, I suppose I can let it slide for now. Not thrilled about the tone or target of his post, but I don't want to move the goalposts so I will unvote for now..

What's wrong with my tone and/or target of the post?

Oh no you didn't cant beliave that you called me french *pokes commander with a stick* i wont even honour you with my vote

Good madam, I'm insulted! Not even a vote for me? I'm sad now.

DID YOU KNOW THAT IF ANYONE IS ON 2 VOTES BY MIDNIGHT, THEY GO BYE-BYE? ^^

When I'm home later I'll be online at 12 GMT to monitor the votes. I've been at Uni all day unfortunately. Busy times.

I'm guessing it's too much to ask for a 48 hour deadline extension?

[edocsil]

Vote No Lynch commander, you're on the block with me atm. I would suggest doing the same.

MM, I would suggest putting some sort of limit on this regressing thing. Perhaps -1 per day to a minimum of 1/3 of votes for lynch, because right now the legitimate lynch window is only like 2 days.

[ghostly447]

Vote no lynch because I do not think any of the available cases can yield a safe lynch.

[Minister Masket]

If you two had unvoted there, you might have forced a sudden death dealy. Maybe next time eh?

Lynch Time!

safariguy5 - 1(rishaed)
virus90 - 1 (Flores)
FloresDelMal - 1 (Commander)
edocsil - 3 (James, jonty, Nark)
HotShot53 - 1 (epic pie)

With 3 votes, edocsil is Lynched!

Scene incoming.

A) Because there's nothing worse than a Day 1 that drags on forever, and...
B) 10 Days really should be enough. You still have 5 days left. Use them wisely.

when did you got so manly, kids grow so fast nowdays

Whoever said I was a kid before?

But yeah, like I said, no-one likes a Day 1 that drags on for ages. Might extend deadlines later in the game when information matters more.

[Minister Masket]

Randgriz Castle HQ
Captain Eleanor Varrot smiled as she welcomed the two new recruits into the strategy room. Although they were incredibly young, they had seen the terror of the Empire's forces close at hand, and she was sure they would excel in the war ahead. The young man - Welkin - already had incredibly useful officer's training in tank command, not to mention his father's impressive legacy in the first war. Surely, the apple couldn't fall far from the tree.
The girl next to him - Alicia - had already shown she could bring out the best of Welkin's abilities.
Together, they would lead Squad 7 against the legions of the Empire, and achieve victory...or die trying.

Meanwhile, in a small town around 30 miles to the east of the capital, the Empire continued their relentless push. An experienced Darcsen recruit - Wavy, was killed when a tank shell scored a direct hit on the militia base his unit was stationed in.



edocsil - Wavy (Recruit, ???, ???) has been lynched!

Send in yer Night Actions

[rishaed]

Well it's too late. I had unvoted earlier, seems like it was missed. >.> As for the others I don't see that they had there votes anywhere else. Oh well. Better luck next time i guess.

[Minister Masket]

Well it's too late. I had unvoted earlier, seems like it was missed. >.> As for the others I don't see that they had there votes anywhere else. Oh well. Better luck next time i guess.

So you did, but it would've only brought No Lynch up to 2, while edocsil still had the 3 votes on him.

[edocsil]

Normally I'm not a sore loser, but I am not impressed with this voting mechanism and with james, jonty and anark. Better luck to the rest of the town.

[Lootifer]

I think the two/day was what got us

[HotShot53]

Maybe if it went 2/day until it got to half needed to lynch, and then 1/day after that... would be a good mix of not too long but long enough when lynching is a possibility

[Minister Masket]

All valuable experience for next time dear fellows.
Don't forget, Day 2 will only reduce by one every midnight.

[Lootifer]

Not your fault mate; the idea was sound. Just low activity over the weekend + the idea didnt work out so well