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So now the truth comes out. Fitz is pissed off because he is on someones foe.... Hypocrite, not like you fitz. Shame on you.AAFitz wrote:well, it actually makes alot of sense, if you want to stop farming new recruits... but I think youve made it fully clear that that was and is your intent. Have fun with it.
As far as swaying people...do you seriously gauge peoples opinion, by the handful of posts in a thread? Anyways, Ive only responded to each of your concerns, and since you were essentially accused of a kind of cheating....again...not real cheating...I felt you deserved responses. The fact that its the most farming since the rule was made is the other reason.
Oh, and sorry about those delay tactics that you foed me for.Its obvious you are out to play the most fair games out there possible now.

BoganGod wrote:This complete bullshit. Mods pull your heads out of your collective behinds. Add it to the hard map/restricted map, etc. Don't stop people from playing their preferred settings, prevent noobs from joining difficult maps...... Unfair, shortsighted and just plain stupid ruling.


drunkmonkey wrote:I'm filing a C&A report right now. Its nice because they have a drop-down for "jefjef".
If that's all the logic that's needed, why the hell is KLOBBER still running free? Sure, he doesn't target explicit noobs, but he sure as hell is violating the intent of the policy, and everyone (and I mean EVERYONE) knows it. There isn't even any question about it, unlike in this case. Yes, yes...the "magical" five games played...a weak excuse if I've ever heard one.prismsaber wrote:LOL @ people defending him. Anyone who doesn't have their head up their ass knows why he was making these games.
Doesn't this decision contradict the decision made against me? http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 7#p2170487lord voldemort wrote:OK,
After a discussion with other mods I have decided to issue Krapt with a warning.
The high % of new recruits is a worry, but mostly the fact that Krapht admits that he knows these games attract new recruits and he contiuues to create the games. We consider this a grose abuse of the game as it creates annoying and unwelcoming gaming atmospheres for the New Recruits involved.
Lack is in the process of adding Feudal to the mpas that new recruits can't play. When that happens I dont know, but he has been again made aware that it is a map used for farming. So he is 'on it'.
lv
This is why I don't understand some of the decisions made. I've made a relevant point in this thread http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... =6&t=99640 that relates to my dissatisfaction at the service level and consistency on how some judgments are made. You may as well warn several other Feudal players that have been previously been falsely accused. And you're more than welcome to start with me. Am I a farmer? No. I just love this map a lot. I don't have to explain why I make 4 player games, that's what I pay $25 for - supposedly for my enjoyment. The question is, if CC is seeing a trend whereby they see new recruits joining these maps - why don't they simply block them from playing until they've reached a certain rank? Just like how they cannot join public speed games. Has king achilles also been advised? I think that the wrong decision/judgment was made - even if it was a warning.Postby king achilles on Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:52 am
I checked if owenator is a multi with any new recruit and he is cleared. He also has a mixture of opponents.
For a newbie farming case possibility, I think it is no longer surprising that Feudal map is one of those maps that certain people have loved to use and create games from it, which coincidentally, many new recruits actually join. One question to ponder for one's intention is, would you love the map this much if you were not playing with new recruits most of the time?
I will be less strict from now on regarding this newbie farming rule as I do not want to dictate how a player wishes to enjoy the game on this site.
If the accused is the one joining the games and/or we see evidence that he/she is inviting new recruits, then we probably have a case to look at.
Still, if a player has mostly new recruits as his opponents in his collection of games with a specific setting, we might suggest to change your preferred settings from time to time in respect of the newbie farming rule.
If we get reports or comments about certain maps that have been 'abused' because they lure too many new recruits often, who knows, there could be some adjustments to further balance the games out there.

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 45&start=0lackattack wrote:"Newbie Farming" is the technique of setting up as many games as possible (either by starting or joining them) with New Recruits to gain easy points by taking advantage of difficult game options and the fact the New Recruits are more likely to deadbeat. Some players have been farming extensively - even sending hundreds of PMs to the latest members to get them into their games.
This is a gross abuse of the game. It gives the New Recruit "victims" a poor first experience and reduces the chances of them sticking around. As farmers move up the scoreboard it also harms the competitive nature of Conquer Club - the scoreboard is meant to measure skill in the game, not "harvesting" techniques.
exactly. look through his games. he plays alot of different things but continues to make these games just for the points. hes hiding behind the excuses "its my favorite type" and " I cant help new recruits join 82% of the time".prismsaber wrote:LOL @ people defending him. Anyone who doesn't have their head up their ass knows why he was making these games.
Mr. Squirrel wrote:One fool reporting for duty!pmchugh wrote:BUMP- one more fool needed
Yes, I have spent this much time on this because kraphtone couldnt handle losing to me and foed me. It had nothing to do with the page of new recruits he was fleecing and taking advantage of the map and settings more than any farmer I have ever seen since the new rules. My posts on CC have always shown me to be vengeful, and unfair.BoganGod wrote:So now the truth comes out. Fitz is pissed off because he is on someones foe.... Hypocrite, not like you fitz. Shame on you.AAFitz wrote:well, it actually makes alot of sense, if you want to stop farming new recruits... but I think youve made it fully clear that that was and is your intent. Have fun with it.
As far as swaying people...do you seriously gauge peoples opinion, by the handful of posts in a thread? Anyways, Ive only responded to each of your concerns, and since you were essentially accused of a kind of cheating....again...not real cheating...I felt you deserved responses. The fact that its the most farming since the rule was made is the other reason.
Oh, and sorry about those delay tactics that you foed me for.Its obvious you are out to play the most fair games out there possible now.
I agree with your premise; that the definition of farming should be expanded.Woodruff wrote:If that's all the logic that's needed, why the hell is KLOBBER still running free? Sure, he doesn't target explicit noobs, but he sure as hell is violating the intent of the policy, and everyone (and I mean EVERYONE) knows it. There isn't even any question about it, unlike in this case. Yes, yes...the "magical" five games played...a weak excuse if I've ever heard one.prismsaber wrote:LOL @ people defending him. Anyone who doesn't have their head up their ass knows why he was making these games.
Targeting players with at least 5 games finished is not currently against the rules. I myself asked if doing it was illegal and it was not, though there always is the gross abuse of game line that could one day encompass this too...but from every post by every hunter, and Andy... I see no fear of this being an issue soon. To be honest...no one can be disciplined for this, without an explicit change in the rules. For right now, illegal farming is farming of new recruits...not poor or even inexperienced players.KraphtOne wrote:sorry but i'm just confused about what i'm supposed to do here...
i want to play games where i have a tactical advantage...
my best map is feudal...
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and then i'd love to hear the "no that's against the rules also" post from the dipshit mods...
the same mods that completely dismiss johnnyrocket24, demonfork, and king_herpes joining thousands of games with horribly ranked players in order to pad their stats...
~k1
IE: Dont systematically target new recruits, using ANY method, whether indirect, or direct.lackattack on Thu Jan 01, 2009 3:07 pm
"Newbie Farming" is the technique of setting up as many games as possible (either by starting or joining them) with New Recruits to gain easy points by taking advantage of difficult game options and the fact the New Recruits are more likely to deadbeat.
If i see something quacking i call it a duck...AAFitz wrote: For someone calling everyone names from dope, to retard to dipshit, I find it odd how difficult all of this is to understand. This is a case study on farming, and the rules have been posted time and again, and honestly I think its very clear to anyone at this point:
Well, the duck in this case was someone illegally farming. CC yelled Duck!KraphtOne wrote:If i see something quacking i call it a duck...AAFitz wrote: For someone calling everyone names from dope, to retard to dipshit, I find it odd how difficult all of this is to understand. This is a case study on farming, and the rules have been posted time and again, and honestly I think its very clear to anyone at this point:
And the rules are hardly "posted"
You have to dig through pages of forum threads to find them...
I do think that the way things change here is a positive thing, like the american justice system... when a mod (judge) makes a ruling it becomes a precedent to which future rulings will be refered...
But these rulings need to be posted in the rules section...
Just food for thought...
...now back to farming
~k1