Opinions on Gay Marriage

[Timminz]

It does not harm Jews and Muslims for us to have pork but it is not right to make a preist go against his beliefs.

And it does not harm the bigo...er.. christians to allow gay people to marry each other. No christian priests will be forced to wed gays, any more than they are currently forced to marry Muslims.

[Neoteny]

Who the hell crashed our poll?

[PLAYER57832]

It does not harm Jews and Muslims for us to have pork but it is not right to make a preist go against his beliefs.

And it does not harm the bigo...er.. christians to allow gay people to marry each other. No christian priests will be forced to wed gays, any more than they are currently forced to marry Muslims.

Let me clarify that not all Christians even agree that homosexuality is wrong. Many do, but there are more than a few priests, ministers and pastors who have administered marriage rights or unification rights for homosexual couples.

Also, whether homosexuality is or is not accepted within the church is an entirely seperate issue from whether it should be allowed by those who are not members of that church.

Whether homosexuals should be allowed to marry or unify, in turn, is a distinct question from whether the state should recognize such unions in the way they do heterosexual marriages.

Right now, the religious issue is .. a religious issue debated within the churches.
Anyone can have a ceremony of union and even call themselves married if they wish, but only a few states recognize such unions as having any legal standing, either identical to marriage or in any other way.

[Captain_Scarlet]

Who the hell crashed our poll?

does it matter ? they are only further deluding themselves

[PLAYER57832]

It does not harm Jews and Muslims for us to have pork but it is not right to make a preist go against his beliefs.

Priests are not the only people who marry others. You don't even have to go to church to get married. Gay people aren't asking for weddings in a church, they are asking for a marriage-license from the government.

In the US, this is not entirely true. The marriage license gives the people permission to marry, the ceremony is needed to actually confer marriage in the US. A justice of the peace and captains at sea can marry, but the overwhelming majority of people do get married in churches (of one type or other). Clergy are given legal standing to perform the ceremonies, not just the state.

Also, whether a civil union or other type "civil only marriage" is acceptable is debated within the gay community. The church issue is partially a religious issue, but there are already plenty of churches that do recognize such unions. The state does not honor them in most states, though.

[Snorri1234]

It does not harm Jews and Muslims for us to have pork but it is not right to make a preist go against his beliefs.

Priests are not the only people who marry others. You don't even have to go to church to get married. Gay people aren't asking for weddings in a church, they are asking for a marriage-license from the government.

In the US, this is not entirely true. The marriage license gives the people permission to marry, the ceremony is needed to actually confer marriage in the US. A justice of the peace and captains at sea can marry, but the overwhelming majority of people do get married in churches (of one type or other). Clergy are given legal standing to perform the ceremonies, not just the state.

Uh yeah that's what I meant actually. Someone ofcourse needs to marry people, I meant that it doesn't have to be a priest and that a priest isn't obligated to marry people he doesn't want to marry.

That said, I believe plenty of dudes who marry people are more than willing to marry gay couples.

[JJM]

It does not harm Jews and Muslims for us to have pork but it is not right to make a preist go against his beliefs.

And it does not harm the bigo...er.. christians to allow gay people to marry each other. No christian priests will be forced to wed gays, any more than they are currently forced to marry Muslims.

If a preist doen't marry them then who will.

[Captain_Scarlet]

It does not harm Jews and Muslims for us to have pork but it is not right to make a preist go against his beliefs.

And it does not harm the bigo...er.. christians to allow gay people to marry each other. No christian priests will be forced to wed gays, any more than they are currently forced to marry Muslims.

If a preist doen't marry them then who will.

planet earth to Jimbo

what do only priest marry coupls in ND?

A civil marriage ceremony by a marriage celebrant

[SultanOfSurreal]

who the hell is voting "no problem morally but should be outlawed"? what's the problem there, do you think gay marriage going to cause earthquakes or something? will it make america too fashion-conscious?

[Timminz]

It does not harm Jews and Muslims for us to have pork but it is not right to make a preist go against his beliefs.

And it does not harm the bigo...er.. christians to allow gay people to marry each other. No christian priests will be forced to wed gays, any more than they are currently forced to marry Muslims.

If a preist doen't marry them then who will.

Well, take me for example. I will be getting married this summer. The ceremony will be performed by a Justice of the Peace. No church. No priest.

[JJM]

It does not harm Jews and Muslims for us to have pork but it is not right to make a preist go against his beliefs.

And it does not harm the bigo...er.. christians to allow gay people to marry each other. No christian priests will be forced to wed gays, any more than they are currently forced to marry Muslims.

If a preist doen't marry them then who will.

planet earth to Jimbo

what do only priest marry coupls in ND?

A civil marriage ceremony by a marriage celebrant

Uffda I am very sick of the way you talk about North Dakota. What is it about North Dakotaians that you hate soo much.If they are going to marry not have a civil union but an actual marriage it would be done by a preist or Rabbi or some religous minister.

[JJM]

It does not harm Jews and Muslims for us to have pork but it is not right to make a preist go against his beliefs.

And it does not harm the bigo...er.. christians to allow gay people to marry each other. No christian priests will be forced to wed gays, any more than they are currently forced to marry Muslims.

If a preist doen't marry them then who will.

Well, take me for example. I will be getting married this summer. The ceremony will be performed by a Justice of the Peace. No church. No priest.

What does a Justice of the Peace do that has to do with marriage.

[Captain_Scarlet]

What does a Justice of the Peace do.

you really are just a troll Jimbo

[JJM]

What does a Justice of the Peace do.

you really are just a troll Jimbo

I meant what do they do that has anything to do with marriage.

[Captain_Scarlet]

What does a Justice of the Peace do.

you really are just a troll Jimbo

I meant what do they do that has anything to do with marriage.

and I meant you really are a troll

[JJM]

I do not believe in marriage being done by someone other than a religous minister.

[Captain_Scarlet]

I do not believe in marriage being done by someone other than a religous minister.

therefore only persons belonging to religions that have a "priest" are entitled to get married?

[JJM]

I do not believe in marriage being done by someone other than a religous minister.

therefore only persons belonging to religions that have a "priest" are entitled to get married?

I believe that a person can chose to be married by whoever they want but I think it should be done by a preist or some other religous minister.

[Timminz]

I do not believe in marriage being done by someone other than a religous minister.

What you believe has no bearing on reality.

[JJM]

I do not believe in marriage being done by someone other than a religous minister.

What you believe has no bearing on reality.

What will they do if the Justice does not beleive in Gay Marriage.

[Timminz]

I do not believe in marriage being done by someone other than a religous minister.

What you believe has no bearing on reality.

What will they do if the Justice does not beleive in Gay Marriage.

I don't know about "they", but I'd probably call him a bigot. Ignorant, at the very least.

[Captain_Scarlet]

I do not believe in marriage being done by someone other than a religous minister.

therefore only persons belonging to religions that have a "priest" are entitled to get married?

I believe that a person can chose to be married by whoever they want but I think it should be done by a preist or some other religous minister.

why should a religious minister marry an athesit?

[JJM]

I do not believe in marriage being done by someone other than a religous minister.

therefore only persons belonging to religions that have a "priest" are entitled to get married?

I believe that a person can chose to be married by whoever they want but I think it should be done by a preist or some other religous minister.

why should a religious minister marry an athesit?

He can married by whoever he chooses.

[JJM]

I do not believe in marriage being done by someone other than a religous minister.

What you believe has no bearing on reality.

What will they do if the Justice does not beleive in Gay Marriage.

I don't know about "they", but I'd probably call him a bigot. Ignorant, at the very least.

You can't make the Justice go against his beliefs ethier.

[Timminz]

I do not believe in marriage being done by someone other than a religous minister.

What you believe has no bearing on reality.

What will they do if the Justice does not beleive in Gay Marriage.

I don't know about "they", but I'd probably call him a bigot. Ignorant, at the very least.

You can't make the Justice go against his beliefs ethier.

If their beliefs are bigoted, they have no right imposing them on other people. If they didn't want to marry certain people they shouldn't have gone into the business of marrying people. I would liken it to a police officer deciding to never arrest Asian people, because he believes that they don't break the law.