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[Haggis_McMutton]

Jeez, i don't know what the hell is going on here. Tunnel vision is a major understatement for the herk vs aage battle in here.

Questions:

aage, remind me, why'd you declare from the end of D1 that you'd be hunting herk today?

Have you guys ever seen a mason group within town that has at least protect and nk abilities, presumably more, used in any other games? Haven't played any games as big as this before, but it seems overpowered to me.

[aage]

Go read for yourself, lazy
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 5#p2876255

[Thezzaruz]

I'm almost worried that Aage might be an overzealous townie. Would scum really be so stupid as to demand a townie PR be lynched?

Stilling mulling this over myself. Let me know if you find the answer...

I considered this myself but I'm not convinced atm. aage does seem overzealous but that has been known to happen to scum too.

However I do agree with aage that herkman needs to go have a look at the common abbreviations as his use of a lot of them brings more confusion than anything else. Sorry herkman but it's true, a little less haste and some more thought wouldn't go amiss when posting.

Have you guys ever seen a mason group within town that has at least protect and nk abilities, presumably more, used in any other games? Haven't played any games as big as this before, but it seems overpowered to me.

Short answer is no (or rather 2 has happened but 3 or more I can't recall atm). And yes it does seem somewhat overpowered but then again this is a really big NV game and the only outed scum so far was untrackable which in itself is pretty powerful too.

FOS edoc for try to get the heat off aage who was clearly trying to BW a pro-town player (independently of how annoying his omgus are)

The OMGUS type rants do get a bit tiresome and would usually have meant a smallish FoS from me but as you also added...

sweetheart, i do believe you are pro-town, but your paranoia does get annoying, and tiring, and because you have played your accusations quite impulsively, that make way less clear if someone voting you is scum or just a really annoyed townie, you could do a lot for your credibility if you start to hold your OMGUS.

I'll just leave it at that and hope herkman takes some time to read and reflect while he still has enough credibility left to be a positive force here (and I do think his role should be a positive force for town).


Also a vote count wouldn't hurt, there's too many votes/unvotes out there atm.

[Thezzaruz]

With the risk of sounding just as "preachy" as flores didn't want to sound.....

EBWOP, plus the fact that herk convinced me enough to go with what he says.

Seriously people.
Doing an EBWOP means that you actually edit a previously posted statement/text. Just posting it by itself doesn't make you look smart, knowledgeable or experienced.

Edit before post: fastposted again...

Much the same as above. A preview edit/edit before post where you doesn't actually edit anything has no meaning.

[FloresDelMal]

(...)If his grand team is as great as he implies they are, they must have told him to shut up at least 5.000 times. So either the team sucks, which is improbable since there's so many good players in this game that would say exactly that to THM; or his team is trying but he simply isn't listening, in which case I would like to see a second spokesperson instead of THM, who is not up for the job, but since I haven't seen anyone yet this is not an option I am considering; or he's a lying scumster with no team at all.

Is that enough?

ok, you could have been an utterly annoyed townie suffering from a bad case of obsessive compulsive disorder paired with a grave tunnel vision syndrome who went into a blind rage against an exceptionally impulsive newbie with a flair for flaming and getting into everyone's nerves; i was prepared to unvote you in the unlikely but plausible possibility that it was the case, but now after that you had this "oh they are so many great players" sucking up BS when you know that most of the time the roles distribution is not necessarily the reflect of a player presumed skill, and then you went and tried to use the stress and frustration that the hypothetically PTSD team mates of the herk could be experiencing by having to put up with his premature verbal ejaculation trying to lure out a new "spoke person".... seriously??? when did you turn out so cunning? anyway, my point is, that after this display of manipulation and baiting, i am more convinced than ever before of your scuminess, now i can keep my vote on you with peace of mind.

[FloresDelMal]

With the risk of sounding just as "preachy" as flores didn't want to sound.....

EBWOP, plus the fact that herk convinced me enough to go with what he says.

Seriously people.
Doing an EBWOP means that you actually edit a previously posted statement/text. Just posting it by itself doesn't make you look smart, knowledgeable or experienced.

Edit before post: fastposted again...

Much the same as above. A preview edit/edit before post where you doesn't actually edit anything has no meaning.

P.S: i am glan i'm not alone *giggles

[theherkman]

Aage, I love how you want another member of this "power team", as you call it, to come forward for your convenience. This is laudable.

[freezie]

Aage, I love how you want another member of this "power team", as you call it, to come forward for your convenience. This is laudable.

May I remind you you said that you are that power team?

Anyway, my stance will probably be a lot different than most people..More around the Like of flores, actually. Herk, if you are actually town, pointing anyone who seemingly don't beleive you is the worse possible way to find scum at this point of the game.

You killed one mafia, or so you say. Good. That's good. But it doesn't make you a god or anything along those lines. And in mafia, it's normal to have suspicion about any players. That's how the game is played. Like Flores and Thez said, hold off your OMGUS. I will speak for many here, but I don't beleive 80% of what you said anymore, nor do I beleive any of the players you called out to be scum simply because you said it. And your little child fight with Aage with no arguments except '' he voted for me'' is getting to me.

Aage IS looking bad with his paranoia over THM......But I very doubt him to be a mafia that bad. I wouldn't be surprised if his role kills someone who voted for him ( Heck, if he really wants THM dead, his role could kill the first person who voted him if he's lynched. )

There is one more possible case, and I beleive by watching aage, that this is the most probable one. That he is our cop. However it doesn't explain him wanting to vote herk down since day one...

My vote stays on Jace, but herk is slowing falling down in credibility for me.

[freezie]

Alright, since when is Herk a confirmed townie? This is really beginning to bother me. He did some wacked shit yesterday and is starting it up again today, and when he is presented with a logical argument he flames. And then by magic everyone agrees with him and jumps on his OMGUS wagon

Christ, are you three in this together? I want to do some re reading before I post all my thoughts, but here are a few. FoS Fircoal and Ga7, you are both better players then that and I cannot come to terms as to why you agree with Herk's pathetic arguments. You know full well if you support Herk the others will likely follow your lead and attempt to lynch aage and this causes me great concerns, because while aage has been aggressive in his pursuit of Herk he has had a legitimate case against him. But you just dismiss it all as lyncher tactics and wagon him.

What is going on here?

Is this the case you're talking about?

Yes, Jace is suspicious, but for now i will still urge you all to vote theherkman. This dude has been referring to having night kill actions ALL NIGHT, not to mention his pretty. odd behavior yesterday (as in, during D1). If he's the vig, we're better off without him. If he's some other killing role, he should die. Now.

vote theherkman btw.

That he posted some story mid-night about beeing able to kill?

Great case Mr E. Well worth an agressive defense over aage.

Heck, am almost wanting to lynch you just to see if Aage is your scumbody or not...

This won't clean Herk, but yea..

[theherkman]

Aage, I love how you want another member of this "power team", as you call it, to come forward for your convenience. This is laudable.

May I remind you you said that you are that power team?

Oh, didn't remember who coined the phrase. It sounds cheezy... perhaps "The Justice League" is better suited?

Anyway, my stance will probably be a lot different than most people..More around the Like of flores, actually. Herk, if you are actually town, pointing anyone who seemingly don't beleive you is the worse possible way to find scum at this point of the game.

You misspelled the word 'believe' about six times...

You killed one mafia, or so you say. Good. That's good. But it doesn't make you a god or anything along those lines.

But... I AM... SPARTACUS!!!!!

Okay, I'm done now.

[Stefunny85]

However I do agree with aage that herkman needs to go have a look at the common abbreviations as his use of a lot of them brings more confusion than anything else. Sorry herkman but it's true, a little less haste and some more thought wouldn't go amiss when posting.

It especially confuses us other newbs! Lol, I keep having to go look up abbreviations just so I can try and understand what is going on!

I'm confused. I think both Herk and Aage have arguments that are like swissscheeeeeese (full of holes?)
I think Jace still seems like the lynch we need to look at. Perhaps either Herk or aage is trying to take the heat off of Jace?
Unfortunately Herk DID fos Blake from the beginning which still makes me think he knows more than he is letting on. Whether that is a good thing or a bad thing is yet to be seen but as of right now all I can say is he correctly predicted a scum. I think both are being paranoid which kind of makes BOTH look guilty to me. Especially when they say things like "You'll soon find out". However I think at this point we have no more or less evidence against either one.

Vote Jace

[Stefunny85]

You misspelled the word 'believe' about six times...

Really? You understood what she was saying, did you HAVE to point that out?

[theherkman]

You misspelled the word 'believe' about six times...

Really? You understood what she was saying, did you HAVE to point that out?

Yes.

[theherkman]

However I do agree with aage that herkman needs to go have a look at the common abbreviations as his use of a lot of them brings more confusion than anything else. Sorry herkman but it's true, a little less haste and some more thought wouldn't go amiss when posting.

I thought PR was power role. Did I get that wrong?

[Fircoal]

However I do agree with aage that herkman needs to go have a look at the common abbreviations as his use of a lot of them brings more confusion than anything else. Sorry herkman but it's true, a little less haste and some more thought wouldn't go amiss when posting.

I thought PR was power role. Did I get that wrong?

Post restriction ;3

[Fircoal]

Alright, since when is Herk a confirmed townie?

Since he posted his role that is too weird so that he can't be lying about it?

Christ, are you three in this together? I want to do some re reading before I post all my thoughts, but here are a few. FoS Fircoal and Ga7, you are both better players then that and I cannot come to terms as to why you agree with Herk's pathetic arguments. You know full well if you support Herk the others will likely follow your lead and attempt to lynch aage and this causes me great concerns, because while aage has been aggressive in his pursuit of Herk he has had a legitimate case against him. But you just dismiss it all as lyncher tactics and wagon him.

What is going on here?

Well let's see. Pmc is not even posting. Naggy is skimming worse than a Skoffin. Me and Frenchie-chan are against Aage and the rest of the better players seem to be more on that side than the latter. I know you're undecided but if the better players seem to be doing, there's probably a reason for it. I'm very sure that Herkyderky is not mafia, and thusly I find it stupid to vote for him. There are scum out there we need to lynch. Playing tunnel vision is an incredibly stupid idea, especially on a power role/ confirmed townie.

As for the Aage is a lyncher idea. Look up Buizel Mafia for reasons why he should be lynched.

[strike wolf]

Apparently PR is post restriction. As far as the case is concerned I think I have a better idea now of what's going on. It has infornmation to do with herk's group though for now I won't pursue that side of it. The other part is I didn't find anything linking aage to blake other than aage did at one point FOS him. So at the very least I do not believe Aage is a part of the known mafia. unvote. That being said Aage's actions today are oddly overzealous and more information into his role would probably not be a bad thing to happen overnight. That being said I am going back to my original vote.m.vote jace. His defense was fairly reasonable yes (though I've never been thoroughly convinced by the "yeah I voted him but so did some other people" defense) but he still has evicence pointing to a connection with blakebowling and got defensive early in the game. Plus today after compiling his defense he quickly jumped onto another wagon and went back to radio silence. His actions today especially seem to include put up a slight defense make sure attention is off of me and disappear back into the shadows. Scummy scummy.

[theherkman]

Hmm... Well upon seeing this entire thing to develop I would have to reconsider everything... I don't think the case against Jace is strong enough for a vote. I also am NOT considering the possibility that Aage is a insane cop. If he was, I think he would have claimed when he voted me. I suppose he could just be a townie with a severe case of tunnelvision; however, he did ask for another member of my group to be outed...

I don't have the time right now, but I want to go back and vote someone who seems scummy with the 2nd BW on Daze. That still amazes me to no end. As soon as she explained her role I unvoted. I want to know who voted her after this...

In all honestly, I don't know who we have a good case for. We need info here.

[spiesr]

I also am NOT considering the possibility that Aage is a insane cop. If he was, I think he would have claimed when he voted me.

Yeah, him voting for you do to a failed investigation wouldn't exactly fit with his declaration yesterday that he would get you today. He has also denied being a cop.

[theherkman]

I also am NOT considering the possibility that Aage is a insane cop. If he was, I think he would have claimed when he voted me.

Yeah, him voting for you do to a failed investigation wouldn't exactly fit with his declaration yesterday that he would get you today. He has also denied being a cop.

Yeah, I knew there was some reason I was forgetting. Thanks.

[Mr. Squirrel]

Vote Count

herk (2) - aage, violet
jace (4) - freezie, edocsil, stefunny, strike wolf
aage (5) - jace, ga7, fircoal, flores, saxlad

With 28 alive, 15 to lynch

Sorry guys but I can only do a vote count at night when I get home.

[freezie]

You misspelled the word 'believe' about six times...

I BELEIVE I care.

Am french, gimme a damn break.

[VioIet]

Let me lay things out for you folks again:

My name is Chuck Lewis. If ya’ll wanna know some background info of my character.
He’s a rapists. AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! He has a mental disorder. Now I know that don’t sound good ya’ll. But he is pro-town. I know it don’t sound like a pro-town role, but it is. So his abilities are to roleblock, of course in the towns favor. If a doc targets me, I will be healed. Meaning my characters mental disorder will be gone. So I can no longer roleblock- and my role will change.

Meaning if ya’ll still go ahead and lynch me now- there is no further possible information you can gain for my lynch. If I’m lynched, the best ya’ll could possibly do for me is go after the folks who knowingly voted for me- a townie. Sayin, “ooh, even those she’s a townie, she’s still bad for the town, that random rolebolocking, and this and that.”

If I said I was a doc, would ya’ll be sayin the same thing. “Oh but what if she protects the mafia, she’ll just protect at random, oh we must get rid of her.”

Ya’ll don’t make no sense. Whats the diff betw doc and roleblocker? Really is it that diff? One protects, ones blocks- its all random, less you have a hunch who the mob is like I do.

Why do I think it is only the mob still pushing for my lynch?
Cough cough, haggis, aage, flores, cough cough

I gotta cold ya’ll.

Why I think vio the only one who be makin sense in here? I’ma vote for the mob, not for a wagon.

Unvote Vote Haggis

dazerazer (11) - saxlad, iliad, aage, flores, TG, ga7, jace, haggis, edocsil, sens, spiesr

Dazerazer: Chuck Lewis - Town Rapist (curable roleblocker) has been killed!

I will avenge your death Dazey!!!

[aage]

Er, vioIet? huh?

Anyway, time to post something of substance, some people in this thread tend to forget...

Since he posted his role that is too weird so that he can't be lying about it?

Wait, so he's talking bullshit and the reason you don't suspect him is... he's talking bullshit? I suppose that's where you and me disagree.

In all honestly, I don't know who we have a good case for. We need info here.

Good call, Captain Obvious. Why do you think I want to see a second member of that power group of yours? Possibly because I also need info? Because I'm not a cop? As I already said? It's the almost-ultimate test of seeing whether you're speaking the truth and I'm targeting the wrong guy. The ultimate test would be lynching you, but it seems like people are more interested in lynching Jace so that's probably not going to happen today. And since Victor's test also didn't work, this is now the only way for me to be sure.

I think both are being paranoid which kind of makes BOTH look guilty to me.

You may think me mental, but why am I paranoid? Because I don't believe the twisting and turning and flaming and lynching piece of scum you guys all accept as the town hero?

[karelpietertje]

aage, it is strange that you would like another member of the team to reveal itself, because anybody who is associated with a town supergroup is likely to get targeted by the mafia.
so, mafia would want what you seem to want. However, most mafia wouldn't be as stupid to ask for it so straightforward. so I'm a little puzzled about that.

my other earlier FoS's, being theherkman and dazerazer, have changed little.

who was the person last time with the complete overview of all posts of all people? we could really use that now ? O:-)