New Briarsburg Mafia. Town Wins! Ga7 wins the premium prize!

[ga7]

Guys, this is beyond tunnelvision. Aage, by noticing Herk couldn't be killed last night is now wanting to out another mason claiming he needs the info. That is the single most scummy thing happening all game.

You have someone that claims to be in a mason group, with powers. Considering his behaviour yesterday you'd think he was targeted or checked. But not only Aage decided he'd focus all his attention on him (apparently since day 1 or because of Herk's night 1 spam, not sure which) despite the fact Herk's claim could be easily verifiable, he also wants to out the other, unprotected masons!

There is absolutely no excuse for this. There is NO townie reason why even if you were mistrusting Herk for your own reasons you would want to out another mason. Your objective here is solely to make the masons a target. This is why I still find your scumbag ass needing a lynch.

[aage]

aage, it is strange that you would like another member of the team to reveal itself, because anybody who is associated with a town supergroup is likely to get targeted by the mafia.
so, mafia would want what you seem to want. However, most mafia wouldn't be as stupid to ask for it so straightforward. so I'm a little puzzled about that.

my other earlier FoS's, being theherkman and dazerazer, have changed little.

who was the person last time with the complete overview of all posts of all people? we could really use that now ? O:-)

DazeRazer's dead.

[karelpietertje]

another annoying thing about you and theherkman, you both only seem to react and respond to grammar and spelling issues, and unimportant parts of someones message.

anyway, I meant Jace, not dazerazer. however, I just found that (s)he did post on day 2, so I don't really suspect him/her anymore, even though (s)he still hasn't really contributed.

[Haggis_McMutton]

who was the person last time with the complete overview of all posts of all people? we could really use that now ? O:-)

That was me, but the next 3 weeks will be pretty hectic for me, so i won't have time to update it.
It's on page 33 though, if anyone feels up to the task, that'd be great

I haven't even been able to read all of the newly posted stuff properly, I'm going to try to re-read day 2 today or tomorrow and I'll post my thoughts then.

[aage]

another annoying thing about you and theherkman, you both only seem to react and respond to grammar and spelling issues, and unimportant parts of someones message.

I was rather insinuating you have been skimming, but okay, if you think it a matter of grammar, that's of course your opinion... I for one though was rather surprised when I read your FoS on Daze hadn't changed.

[strike wolf]

aage, it is strange that you would like another member of the team to reveal itself, because anybody who is associated with a town supergroup is likely to get targeted by the mafia.
so, mafia would want what you seem to want. However, most mafia wouldn't be as stupid to ask for it so straightforward. so I'm a little puzzled about that.

my other earlier FoS's, being theherkman and dazerazer[/.com], have changed little.

who was the person last time with the complete overview of all posts of all people? we could really use that now ? O:-)

. I think you have jace and daze confused. Daze was lynched day 1

[Victor Sullivan]

VOTE THEHERKMAN

@theherkman - I must be scum then, right? (You and I both know you're thinking that)
@everyone - this is the ultimate skim test
Well I actually believe theherkman, this was just a test unvote.

I do question aage's logic, but I'm not quite certain enough of his scumminess to jump on the wagon. He did say Day 1 he'd go for you, herk, and you did seem a tad scummy at the time, so it's something of a support for him. As for Jace, his reply seemed legit, but when he then immediately votes for aage disallows me to be confident in his innocence (if he indeed is innocent, of course). I have a question or two for herk and aage, so I can better understand their arguments:

@theherkman:
-Assume you were the first to post today (Day 2). Who would you have voted for?
-Assuming aage is indeed scum, who do you think his scummates are?
@aage:
-What role do you think theherkman has, and what alignment do you think he is?
-Would you quote specific evidence from previous posts as to why you believe this?

-Sully

Alright, this time it's for realz: vote theherkman. You still haven't answered my questions, so my vote stays on you 'til you stop posting meaningless comments (insulting freezie? Really?) and actually answer my damn questions. For the record, I still believe your town, but this is f*cking bull sh*t, herk, seriously...

-Sully's a little mad (in both ways)

[Stefunny85]

I think both are being paranoid which kind of makes BOTH look guilty to me.

You may think me mental, but why am I paranoid? Because I don't believe the twisting and turning and flaming and lynching piece of scum you guys all accept as the town hero?

I don't accept him as the town hero. I just don't think there is enough evidence against either of you that makes it worth a lynch. It just seems that both of you are SO over the top about getting each other lynch that it makes me wonder "What do you guys know that we don't?" It has to be something, because both arguments aren't the greatest.

[edocsil]

Alright, since when is Herk a confirmed townie?

Since he posted his role that is too weird so that he can't be lying about it?

@ Fircoal why don't you go find that claim, you might find it a bit difficult.


@ Others, personally I do not think Herk is scum, hence my vote isn't on him. What mostly bothers me is that people think he is town without a good reason.

[FloresDelMal]

(...)If his grand team is as great as he implies they are, they must have told him to shut up at least 5.000 times. So either the team sucks, which is improbable since there's so many good players in this game that would say exactly that to THM; or his team is trying but he simply isn't listening, in which case I would like to see a second spokesperson instead of THM, who is not up for the job, but since I haven't seen anyone yet this is not an option I am considering; or he's a lying scumster with no team at all.

Is that enough?

ok, you could have been an utterly annoyed townie suffering from a bad case of obsessive compulsive disorder paired with a grave tunnel vision syndrome who went into a blind rage against an exceptionally impulsive newbie with a flair for flaming and getting into everyone's nerves; i was prepared to unvote you in the unlikely but plausible possibility that it was the case, but now after that you had this "oh they are so many great players" sucking up BS when you know that most of the time the roles distribution is not necessarily the reflect of a player presumed skill, and then you went and tried to use the stress and frustration that the hypothetically PTSD team mates of the herk could be experiencing by having to put up with his premature verbal ejaculation trying to lure out a new "spoke person".... seriously??? when did you turn out so cunning? anyway, my point is, that after this display of manipulation and baiting, i am more convinced than ever before of your scuminess, now i can keep my vote on you with peace of mind.

aage you havent answered yet to my post on page 67

[FloresDelMal]

Why do I think it is only the mob still pushing for my lynch?
Cough cough, haggis, aage, flores, cough cough

I gotta cold ya’ll.

Why I think vio the only one who be makin sense in here? I’ma vote for the mob, not for a wagon.

Unvote Vote Haggis

dazerazer (11) - saxlad, iliad, aage, flores, TG, ga7, jace, haggis, edocsil, sens, spiesr

Dazerazer: Chuck Lewis - Town Rapist (curable roleblocker) has been killed!

I will avenge your death Dazey!!![/quote]

oh btw violet, you could do yourself a favor by reading all the posts adressing the herk and aage child like tunnel vision syndrome, because it does apply to you as well, seriously, how are you any better than the OMGUS of the herk, or the obsession of aage?

[aage]

(...)If his grand team is as great as he implies they are, they must have told him to shut up at least 5.000 times. So either the team sucks, which is improbable since there's so many good players in this game that would say exactly that to THM; or his team is trying but he simply isn't listening, in which case I would like to see a second spokesperson instead of THM, who is not up for the job, but since I haven't seen anyone yet this is not an option I am considering; or he's a lying scumster with no team at all.

Is that enough?

ok, you could have been an utterly annoyed townie suffering from a bad case of obsessive compulsive disorder paired with a grave tunnel vision syndrome who went into a blind rage against an exceptionally impulsive newbie with a flair for flaming and getting into everyone's nerves; i was prepared to unvote you in the unlikely but plausible possibility that it was the case, but now after that you had this "oh they are so many great players" sucking up BS when you know that most of the time the roles distribution is not necessarily the reflect of a player presumed skill, and then you went and tried to use the stress and frustration that the hypothetically PTSD team mates of the herk could be experiencing by having to put up with his premature verbal ejaculation trying to lure out a new "spoke person".... seriously??? when did you turn out so cunning? anyway, my point is, that after this display of manipulation and baiting, i am more convinced than ever before of your scuminess, now i can keep my vote on you with peace of mind.

aage you havent answered yet to my post on page 67

Oh, sorry, I wasn't under the impression I should've quoted and analyzed this. But here you go:

Good call, Captain Obvious. Why do you think I want to see a second member of that power group of yours? Possibly because I also need info? Because I'm not a cop? As I already said? It's the almost-ultimate test of seeing whether you're speaking the truth and I'm targeting the wrong guy. The ultimate test would be lynching you, but it seems like people are more interested in lynching Jace so that's probably not going to happen today. And since Victor's test also didn't work, this is now the only way for me to be sure.

Not adressed to you but it pretty much explains whatever you wanted to be exlained, I guess. I suppose you missed it.

[/]

However there is still a chance you are wrong, which is why so many are voting you, it's either "kill that guy to prove he's not a witch" or "make the undercover agent come out into the open so we know he exists" if herk is scum, we will probably find out later in the game, when there are fewer people and less room for lies, however with so many potential scum it is ignorant to test one's claims too far....
fos Aage again


but I'd rather follow up a few other leads for now

one, Naxus

I'm an innocent but torn young man, that was sent into the war in place of my older brother. I'm not sure how much else I can post, so I'll leave it at that.

Where the hell did this come from? Noone really pressured you and you have small amount of votes on you. Why say anything?

huh, from my perspective this carries an unnecessary urgency, why did you react so strongly to blake "claiming"?
Note: that scum possibly didn't know each other role at this point since no night talk could have happened, is it possible a scum mate thought it was a real claim?
Note 2: blake had no vote on him at this point in the game, ever, why did you assume he was being voted?



Another, Snes
yeah actually I sort of agree with you last post, actually i would say I rather like it, glad to see you are really playing now! except for one thing

1. Herk, how come everyone that disagees with you must be scum? Why do you challenge aage so roughly? '
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BUT FOS HERK and EVERYONE THAT IS VOTING AAGE.

uhh so when herk generalizes an entire group it sucks, but it's ok to assume everyone who finds aage suspicious is scum?
also you didn't respond to the wagon on you at all yesterday, instead only showing up to vote daze, (and just that, content or no text, just a bandwagon) what's up with that?


I'll hold off on voting a little more, PS, might be a bit busy tomorrow,
Gobble Gobble

[/]

one more note about the blake "claim" that most people missed, it was a joke response to Violet asking

Blakebowling- who are you?

[Commander9]

Gneral thoughts from the previous day:

@ Herk - extremely scummy, but there are better targets than him. A lot of things he say look out of place, so it would really nice if someone could investigate him?

@ Dazey's bandwagon (Flores, Haggis, Aage) - looks like pretty much as the main candidates at the moment.

@ Saxlad - I don't think that he's aligned with bandwagon above, but also looks quite scummy.

@ Sensfan - Huge FoS due to him constantly trying to stay in the dark, but post enough to try not to appear scummy. Heavily on Dazey's wagon too.

@ Jace - another rather interesting character here - would like some info from here.

@ Inactives - modkill/replace perhaps?

@ PMC - Huge FoS here as well. Seems like a good player and comes online every so often, but avoids attention here. Interesting?

It had been a very busy night. Gunshots and sirens were heard almost continuously and few got any sleep whatsoever. However, when morning arrived the town was surprised to see the body count was so low.

Jordan White had grown up as a sadist and many of the citizens of New Briarsburg avoided him. He had earned a few medals for his service in the military, but it was widely rumored that his great accomplishments were made by quite unethical means. He was found lying in a pool of his own blood with his chest cut open for the world to see. After searching his modest apartment, they found remote explosives and tubs of gasoline, proving without a doubt that he was part of the mafia.
Blakebowling: Jordan White - Mafia Arsonist (untrackable killer) has been killed!
Day 2 Begins!!!

I'm just really interested in what happened here. Lots of possibilities and it gives a lot of people ability to claim that they did it.

Yes, Jace is suspicious, but for now i will still urge you all to vote theherkman. This dude has been referring to having night kill actions ALL NIGHT, not to mention his pretty. odd behavior yesterday (as in, during D1). If he's the vig, we're better off without him. If he's some other killing role, he should die. Now.

vote theherkman btw.

What the?... FoS Aage.

Ok so from what I'm reading HUGE fos on aage for being willing to kill a vig who sucessfully killed scum. I know that information only came out after your post but you still basically said it yourself.

That being said I still want to hear from jace before I consider changing my vote.

We don't know that...

I'd rather see herkman replaced than lynched for now.

FoS Nag.

Well my abilities are pro-town. A scum is dead and the mafia kill was thwarted. Pretty easy conclusion here...

Not necessarily...

ACtually I will say that due to HerkyDerky's status in teh game, it actually is very scummy to vote him now. No one pro town should be trying to vote him.

We don't know that...

I agree with everyone on this page other than, Vi. I voted Daze and kept my vote on her UNTIL she explained about the doctor. After she did, I changed my vote. I'm still suspicious of sens and now Vi. I am suspicious of others who vote me. ESPECIALLY NOW! The mafia knows I am a townie with a major role and they are upset about not being able to kill me last night. ANYONE who votes for a town power role is, quite frankly, scum.

Again, until someone investigates you, we don't know. We are just assuming you do... You probably do have some sort of special role, but that doesn't mean you are pro-town and I still doubt you are.

Let's see, what is more probable... That I can track/kill/protect/investigate/bulletproof/INSERTOTHERCOOLABILITYHERE or that different people in the group have different abilities and that together we can formulate a plan during the night on how to use our actions? Hmm?

Group of what? Most of the time pro-town people can't talk with each other...

Aage, you got a PR? Or you're just being even more obsessive and monomaniac than usual?
Vote Aage and FOS Vio for the same reason. It should be obvious to anyone Herk is town and unfortunately the spokesman for his group seemingly, and was a likely target for scum although a number of other things could have happened. To try to push another opinion at this point is scummy, especially since it seems town has a large paved way to get rid of scum if there's mason groups, hopefully extensible. If it started as a group with more than one it's most likely of stable size however. It can be many options either way so your argument holds no water.
I'd like to put a leash on this though, Herk you're getting overexcited and paranoid again. Don't forget to use logic

How do you know that's he's pro-town? Perhaps you're on of his so-called "groupies"? Hmm...

After reading the pages above:

unovte vote aage

reasons above in the last 3 pages.

Yet again, barely no posts, turns up to vote, disappears.

Alright, since when is Herk a confirmed townie? This is really beginning to bother me. He did some wacked shit yesterday and is starting it up again today, and when he is presented with a logical argument he flames. And then by magic everyone agrees with him and jumps on his OMGUS wagon

Christ, are you three in this together? I want to do some re reading before I post all my thoughts, but here are a few. FoS Fircoal and Ga7, you are both better players then that and I cannot come to terms as to why you agree with Herk's pathetic arguments. You know full well if you support Herk the others will likely follow your lead and attempt to lynch aage and this causes me great concerns, because while aage has been aggressive in his pursuit of Herk he has had a legitimate case against him. But you just dismiss it all as lyncher tactics and wagon him.

What is going on here?

VOTE THEHERKMAN

@theherkman - I must be scum then, right? (You and I both know you're thinking that)
@everyone - this is the ultimate skim test
Well I actually believe theherkman, this was just a test unvote.

I do question aage's logic, but I'm not quite certain enough of his scumminess to jump on the wagon. He did say Day 1 he'd go for you, herk, and you did seem a tad scummy at the time, so it's something of a support for him. As for Jace, his reply seemed legit, but when he then immediately votes for aage disallows me to be confident in his innocence (if he indeed is innocent, of course). I have a question or two for herk and aage, so I can better understand their arguments:

@theherkman:
-Assume you were the first to post today (Day 2). Who would you have voted for?
-Assuming aage is indeed scum, who do you think his scummates are?
@aage:
-What role do you think theherkman has, and what alignment do you think he is?
-Would you quote specific evidence from previous posts as to why you believe this?

-Sully

My thoughts, pretty much. A+ for edoc and Sulta... err, Sully

for one. THM is once again full of alot of fluff. Today his fluff is a little less and arguments are seeping through but Damn man.

I agree with Flow and Strike( I think it was you) that we need to know his group name/classification or whatever.

With a game this big, its not nearly so simple as Town V Mafia. While those two are the prominent factions, there could be quite a few factions. These could be multiple mafias, cult, survivor groups and lonely third party. So while yes we killed someone evil last night, thats not to say they were mafia but could've been one of many different factions.

Aage while your agrument seems strange im still suspicious of THM. FOS AAGE and HERK

Totally agree with this as well and that's what I wrote above. Surely, if there's a such a strong and complete group, what does it do? IMO, if such group exists, it's probably not pro-town.

I'm confused. I think both Herk and Aage have arguments that are like swissscheeeeeese (full of holes?)
I think Jace still seems like the lynch we need to look at. Perhaps either Herk or aage is trying to take the heat off of Jace?
Unfortunately Herk DID fos Blake from the beginning which still makes me think he knows more than he is letting on. Whether that is a good thing or a bad thing is yet to be seen but as of right now all I can say is he correctly predicted a scum. I think both are being paranoid which kind of makes BOTH look guilty to me. Especially when they say things like "You'll soon find out". However I think at this point we have no more or less evidence against either one.

Vote Jace

You hit the nail on the head with your post about Aage and Herk. Both seem extremely suspicious and I honestly hope someone can investigate those two to actually find out what they're talking about.

Jace, on the other hand, is also extremely scummy, but I think replacing him would probably work better than lynching him as the main case, from my perspective anyways, is his inability to consistently contribute and only showing up on rare occasions for a post or two.

Guys, this is beyond tunnelvision. Aage, by noticing Herk couldn't be killed last night is now wanting to out another mason claiming he needs the info. That is the single most scummy thing happening all game.

You have someone that claims to be in a mason group, with powers. Considering his behaviour yesterday you'd think he was targeted or checked. But not only Aage decided he'd focus all his attention on him (apparently since day 1 or because of Herk's night 1 spam, not sure which) despite the fact Herk's claim could be easily verifiable, he also wants to out the other, unprotected masons!

There is absolutely no excuse for this. There is NO townie reason why even if you were mistrusting Herk for your own reasons you would want to out another mason. Your objective here is solely to make the masons a target. This is why I still find your scumbag ass needing a lynch.

Masons are not always pro-town?



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FoS Vioiet for being a bit too inactive lately.

Personally, not going to vote just yet, but there are a lot of problems in two main protagonists of the day arguments.

[Flow520]

Aage's near suicidal actions just make me think that aage is holding out on a specific piece of info on theherkman.

But barring a more specific claim by aage against theherkman, my vote is leaning towards aage.

@ Jace - another rather interesting character here - would like some info from here..

I think without more information or specific claims, were just going to be hashing out the same arguments over and over again. I think we need to here some specific claims from aage and Jace. I dont think anyone would disagree with me that these two currently appear to be the most scummy.

[Commander9]

I think without more information or specific claims, were just going to be hashing out the same arguments over and over again. I think we need to here some specific claims from aage and Jace. I dont think anyone would disagree with me that these two currently appear to be the most scummy.

Personally, I'd like for Herk to answer some of the questions that me and others have also posted, instead of fluffing and going off on everyone.

[karelpietertje]

However there is still a chance you are wrong, which is why so many are voting you, it's either "kill that guy to prove he's not a witch" or "make the undercover agent come out into the open so we know he exists" if herk is scum, we will probably find out later in the game, when there are fewer people and less room for lies, however with so many potential scum it is ignorant to test one's claims too far....
fos Aage again


but I'd rather follow up a few other leads for now

one, Naxus

I'm an innocent but torn young man, that was sent into the war in place of my older brother. I'm not sure how much else I can post, so I'll leave it at that.

Where the hell did this come from? Noone really pressured you and you have small amount of votes on you. Why say anything?

huh, from my perspective this carries an unnecessary urgency, why did you react so strongly to blake "claiming"?
Note: that scum possibly didn't know each other role at this point since no night talk could have happened, is it possible a scum mate thought it was a real claim?
Note 2: blake had no vote on him at this point in the game, ever, why did you assume he was being voted?



Another, Snes
yeah actually I sort of agree with you last post, actually i would say I rather like it, glad to see you are really playing now! except for one thing

1. Herk, how come everyone that disagees with you must be scum? Why do you challenge aage so roughly? '
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BUT FOS HERK and EVERYONE THAT IS VOTING AAGE.

uhh so when herk generalizes an entire group it sucks, but it's ok to assume everyone who finds aage suspicious is scum?
also you didn't respond to the wagon on you at all yesterday, instead only showing up to vote daze, (and just that, content or no text, just a bandwagon) what's up with that?


I'll hold off on voting a little more, PS, might be a bit busy tomorrow,
Gobble Gobble

great lead, the first one. i'd like an explanation from naxus. the aage thing sounds unconvincing to me though.

[Commander9]

Personally, I'd like for Herk to answer some of the questions that me and others have also posted, instead of fluffing and going off on everyone.

Accidently pressed submit too early

Personally, 5 people that I'm leaning towards to are Saxlad, Herk, Aage, Sensfan and Jace. All one of them, for one reason or the other, have looked extremely scummy. I'd say 3 of them have contributed next to nothing to help town and the other 2 have been acting suspiciously through out the whole game.

However, what is also worrisome, we have to remember that these guys at least posted... There's still a great deal of people have are yet to post (or at least more than 1 or 2 posts) and who have not been replaced...

[Stefunny85]

Aage's near suicidal actions just make me think that aage is holding out on a specific piece of info on theherkman.

But barring a more specific claim by aage against theherkman, my vote is leaning towards aage.

@ Jace - another rather interesting character here - would like some info from here..

I think without more information or specific claims, were just going to be hashing out the same arguments over and over again. I think we need to here some specific claims from aage and Jace. I dont think anyone would disagree with me that these two currently appear to be the most scummy.

To be fair The Herkmans reverse claim on aage isn't very specific either.

[Flow520]

To be fair The Herkmans reverse claim on aage isn't very specific either.

Point taken.

As pointed out earlier, it would be really helpful if theherkman would give us more information or even the name/classification of his group. Granted, I can certainly understand his argument about not revealing the members of his group, but I just feel that we need more proof. I'm leaning towards the group being more a non-recruiting mason type deal.

Seems we are in agreement...

[Stefunny85]

Ah good. I'm glad we agree then

[VioIet]

my other earlier FoS's, being theherkman and dazerazer, have changed little.

Umm.. everyone now knows that Dazey was a townie. Yet you are still FOS'ing her. It hasn't changed???? Why would you still be FOS'ing a known townie??????

another annoying thing about you and theherkman, you both only seem to react and respond to grammar and spelling issues, and unimportant parts of someones message.

anyway, I meant Jace, not dazerazer. however, I just found that (s)he did post on day 2, so I don't really suspect him/her anymore, even though (s)he still hasn't really contributed.

Why are you skimming soo much???? How could you not know who was lynched?? Why are you not following the game. You need to be replaced NOW!!

FoS Vioiet for being a bit too inactive lately.

WTH Commander!! You have been skimming through all my post?? I do not take kindly to that.
lalaland, cena-rules, pmc, sensfan,

Yet you FOS me for being inactive. WTH
When have I been inactive this game? At the time you made that post- we had both posted twice on Day 2. So don't know where you got that from. Go FOS yourself.
That seriously irked me.
Oh well moving on.

[theherkman]

VOTE THEHERKMAN

@theherkman - I must be scum then, right? (You and I both know you're thinking that)
@everyone - this is the ultimate skim test
Well I actually believe theherkman, this was just a test unvote.

I do question aage's logic, but I'm not quite certain enough of his scumminess to jump on the wagon. He did say Day 1 he'd go for you, herk, and you did seem a tad scummy at the time, so it's something of a support for him. As for Jace, his reply seemed legit, but when he then immediately votes for aage disallows me to be confident in his innocence (if he indeed is innocent, of course). I have a question or two for herk and aage, so I can better understand their arguments:

@theherkman:
-Assume you were the first to post today (Day 2). Who would you have voted for?
-Assuming aage is indeed scum, who do you think his scummates are?
@aage:
-What role do you think theherkman has, and what alignment do you think he is?
-Would you quote specific evidence from previous posts as to why you believe this?

-Sully

Alright, this time it's for realz: vote theherkman. You still haven't answered my questions, so my vote stays on you 'til you stop posting meaningless comments (insulting freezie? Really?) and actually answer my damn questions. For the record, I still believe your town, but this is f*cking bull sh*t, herk, seriously...

-Sully's a little mad (in both ways)

Sorry Sully, been busy and kinda looked through and replied selectively. My apologies.

I would have voted for Aage. I claimed on D1 and he votes me before jumping BWs to lynch another townie. Now, he has made it his mission to lynch me. His zeal is what seems the most scummy to me. Why is he so set on killing me? I think it may be because if he is scum, he is upset about not being able to kill me last night. I was quite obviously targeted to be killed. Unless something else weird happened with the mafia, I know how it happened. I was protected last night. I think what that means is that the mafia MUST get me lynched. Maybe they think I will always be saved/bulletproof, but this is why I am SUPER suspicious of those voting me today. Not you of course. Lol!

Secondly, I think his scum mates MAY be: Strike Wolf, Haggis, Flores, Violet, Sensfan, thezzarus. I really don't have anything on Strike wolf, just kinda strikes me as suspicious. Nothing warranting a vote or FOS. Haggis seems REALLY scummy. Doesn't seem to be too active, yet not skimming/lurking. Comes out to post every so often, even voting. BTW - I was the one who put together the post links. Not you. You copied my post and updated it. I spent an hour making those links and that post. It's quite rude to claim you did it. Flores seems quite scummy with her posts. Just kind of going with the flow of things. Makes me wonder if I am wrong about Aage... Violet seems a little off. I think she could be scum, but defending Daze because they were friends. Sensfan contributes little but ALWAYS comes in to vote. Suspicious... Thezzarus has made very little posts but is ALWAYS intelligent with his posts. Makes it look like he is reading everything and choosing to post only occasionally.

Hope this answers your questions. Sorry for taking so long!

[theherkman]

I think that if Jace is scum, then we should look at ga7, flores, and saxlad VERY CAREFULLY. If Aage is scum, we need to look at freezie, edocsil, and strike.

Also, violet, why are you voting me again?