Non-VANILLA Game 3 *Game Over* 14 Winners

everywhere116 · Post by **everywhere116** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 3:01 pm

Back on topic.

Selin · Post by **Selin** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 3:18 pm

Selin wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote:
jnd94 wrote:you know wat, im on the verge of insanity so vote-sheepofdumb
JND... You have to realize, man... We all need to vote for the SAME person... Splitting up our votes doesn't do jack.
first warning of AD to jnd

Anarkistsdream wrote:
jnd94 wrote:fine UNVOTE ill use my vote for the greater good, and not for a crackpot scheme
You look scummy by voting and unvoting a lot... Be careful
second warning of AD to jnd

All in 7-8 minutes. Somehow strange to me. Did AD realised that jnd looked scummy and tried to stop him talking too much? And he didnt FOS him, but voted Primate who is inactive. Looks like he protects jnd and tries to draw attention to other players.

FOS Anarkistdream

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That was my post on day 2.
We learned that jnd is mafia. Now this conversations make me more suspicious about AD.

Again FOS Anarkistdream

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 3:19 pm

Aimless wrote:The sweaty kind.

Selin · Post by **Selin** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 3:25 pm

My second FOS Hitman

In addition to his erratic posts on day 2, jnd's post about Hitman made me more suspicious about him. The only paradox in this suspicion is that unriggable who was killed last night defended Hitman exactly three times in different posts on day 2! Nevertheless I still I FOS him.

Selin · Post by **Selin** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 3:39 pm

Back to analysis of the game:

There is something strange having only 1 kill each night with 24 players. After Fircoals modkilling Unit_2 we learned that he was the vig. That's more strange for me. Only one mafia in a 24 player game and we have a vig on top of it. That's simply strange!

I can think of two possibilities:
a) A big mafia or a medium one with recruiting powers, so that they become bigger.
b) A mafia and a serial killer. Although aimless' basic analysis showed very weak probabilities, we have to think of other combinations, eg. one night SK didn't do his choice, second night doc/role blocker protected townies or he chose same target as mafia or he chose bulletproof townie etc.

Selin · Post by **Selin** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 3:45 pm

I remembered one more issue about AD in addition to my above post FOSing him.

He skimmed the death of mandolorian (night 1) on day two (page 44/45). However I'm not sure, if that is something positive or negative for him. On the one hand as being mafia he should have known it, on the other hand most of the time it is mafia who skims.

Aimless · Post by **Aimless** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 3:49 pm

As a gut feeling, I would say that there's about one chance in five that AD is scum. Enough of a chance for me to FOS him, but not enough to vote, unless other evidence comes along.

He did defend jnd, but it was more along the lines of trying to clue in a n00b; and frankly, AD is smart enough that if he were mafia, he wouldn't have tried to tie himself to jnd at all.

Anarkistsdream · Post by **Anarkistsdream** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 3:50 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:
Aimless wrote:While I'm annoyed at Hitman, I'm only halfway convinced he's scum. I'm more concerned about the way AD was defending jnd back around page 60. I was willing to pass it off as just helping a newbie, but now that jnd has turned up scum I think this casts it is a different light.

FOS Hitman
FOS AD
As I said then... Sorry, I won't be helpful anymore...

I just feel that I am one of the 'senior' players on this site, and it is my job to help everyone understand... I helped Mountainlion, too... I want people to understand and enjoy the game... My first game "Dead Man's Gulch" I was lynched almost immediately because I said stupid things and didn't understand... I got really frustrated and, luckily, had the beer to help calm me down... This game works me up, and I like that...

But, I also don't want true help to ever be seen as a 'helping the mafia' tactic...

SELIN, apparently you seem to be skimming too!!!

I already provided my defense...

Try reading and you will know!

Selin · Post by **Selin** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 3:55 pm

I suspect also a cult. And I have a FOS for this role. That is red bull. I don't know if he is the leader or member. A post of red bull brought me to that idea stating that he is "pro town or at least no mafia".

Selin · Post by **Selin** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 4:00 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote:
Aimless wrote:While I'm annoyed at Hitman, I'm only halfway convinced he's scum. I'm more concerned about the way AD was defending jnd back around page 60. I was willing to pass it off as just helping a newbie, but now that jnd has turned up scum I think this casts it is a different light.

FOS Hitman
FOS AD
As I said then... Sorry, I won't be helpful anymore...

I just feel that I am one of the 'senior' players on this site, and it is my job to help everyone understand... I helped Mountainlion, too... I want people to understand and enjoy the game... My first game "Dead Man's Gulch" I was lynched almost immediately because I said stupid things and didn't understand... I got really frustrated and, luckily, had the beer to help calm me down... This game works me up, and I like that...

But, I also don't want true help to ever be seen as a 'helping the mafia' tactic...

SELIN, apparently you seem to be skimming too!!!

I already provided my defense...

Try reading and you will know!

I know that you defended yourself, but when I saw you voting Hitman directly at the beginning of day 3 (one of the first posts on day 3 although we have 3 days for discussing etc) somehow I got an impression that you were trying to quickly bring our attention back to the suspects of day 2 about Hitman.

Anarkistsdream · Post by **Anarkistsdream** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 4:01 pm

Selin wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote:
Aimless wrote:While I'm annoyed at Hitman, I'm only halfway convinced he's scum. I'm more concerned about the way AD was defending jnd back around page 60. I was willing to pass it off as just helping a newbie, but now that jnd has turned up scum I think this casts it is a different light.

FOS Hitman
FOS AD
As I said then... Sorry, I won't be helpful anymore...

I just feel that I am one of the 'senior' players on this site, and it is my job to help everyone understand... I helped Mountainlion, too... I want people to understand and enjoy the game... My first game "Dead Man's Gulch" I was lynched almost immediately because I said stupid things and didn't understand... I got really frustrated and, luckily, had the beer to help calm me down... This game works me up, and I like that...

But, I also don't want true help to ever be seen as a 'helping the mafia' tactic...

SELIN, apparently you seem to be skimming too!!!

I already provided my defense...

Try reading and you will know!
I know that you defended yourself, but when I saw you voting Hitman directly at the beginning of day 3 (one of the first posts on day 3 although we have 3 days for discussing etc) somehow I got an impression that you were trying to quickly bring our attention back to the suspects of day 2 about Hitman.

WHAT?!?!?! I AM!!!

Hitman is mafia!

Selin · Post by **Selin** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 4:08 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:
Selin wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote:
Aimless wrote:While I'm annoyed at Hitman, I'm only halfway convinced he's scum. I'm more concerned about the way AD was defending jnd back around page 60. I was willing to pass it off as just helping a newbie, but now that jnd has turned up scum I think this casts it is a different light.

FOS Hitman
FOS AD
As I said then... Sorry, I won't be helpful anymore...

I just feel that I am one of the 'senior' players on this site, and it is my job to help everyone understand... I helped Mountainlion, too... I want people to understand and enjoy the game... My first game "Dead Man's Gulch" I was lynched almost immediately because I said stupid things and didn't understand... I got really frustrated and, luckily, had the beer to help calm me down... This game works me up, and I like that...

But, I also don't want true help to ever be seen as a 'helping the mafia' tactic...

SELIN, apparently you seem to be skimming too!!!

I already provided my defense...

Try reading and you will know!
I know that you defended yourself, but when I saw you voting Hitman directly at the beginning of day 3 (one of the first posts on day 3 although we have 3 days for discussing etc) somehow I got an impression that you were trying to quickly bring our attention back to the suspects of day 2 about Hitman.
WHAT?!?!?! I AM!!!

Hitman is mafia!

Honestly said, I believe that too. Hitman lied about his experience etc. I don't see a motive behind that if he is townie. But if he is mafia that makes sense, trying to show himself as a noob!

So, in that respect I'm with you.

Anarkistsdream · Post by **Anarkistsdream** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 4:08 pm

Okay... I am just saying... He is.

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 4:13 pm

How do you know?

Anarkistsdream · Post by **Anarkistsdream** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 4:14 pm

pancakemix wrote:How do you know?

Gut feeling.

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 4:15 pm

I still want to hear from him. If I don't hear from him by tomorrow, he's got my vote.

Anarkistsdream · Post by **Anarkistsdream** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 4:22 pm

pancakemix wrote:I still want to hear from him. If I don't hear from him by tomorrow, he's got my vote.

Fair enough, dude.

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 4:26 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:
pancakemix wrote:I still want to hear from him. If I don't hear from him by tomorrow, he's got my vote.
Fair enough, dude.

It's not that I don't trust you, it's that I don't trust gut feelings. My gut feeling right now is that I might throw up. That's probably right, though.

red bull · Post by **red bull** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:14 pm

Selin wrote:I suspect also a cult. And I have a FOS for this role. That is red bull. I don't know if he is the leader or member. A post of red bull brought me to that idea stating that he is "pro town or at least no mafia".

can i see the post please and yes i am not mafia or a cult

AND DONT MAKE ME JOIN YOURS !!!!!!!!

Primate · Post by **Primate** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:16 pm

heh.

AD's 'gut' has my support.

I'm not going to vote, cause of how silly quick you do things round here, but I'm prefer AD to hitman on this matter.

sheepofdumb · Post by **sheepofdumb** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:29 pm

I will support the gut.

Red bull is roleclaiming in his own special way. Fos red bull

Shadowstar · Post by **Shadowstar** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:00 pm

Primate wrote:heh.

AD's 'gut' has my support.

I'm not going to vote, cause of how silly quick you do things round here, but I'm prefer AD to hitman on this matter.

Same thing here, but not enough to vote. Last time we relied on guts, we got our cop lynched. I hope this won't turn out the same.

$5 that he's the doc

Hitman079 · Post by **Hitman079** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:39 pm

i've read
and here's my post
now everyone can remember to pounce on me again
i will be laughing from my grave when you lynch a townie

Hitman079 · Post by **Hitman079** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:40 pm

if you looked back, i unvoted, but Fircoal counted it anyways.

Hitman079 · Post by **Hitman079** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:42 pm

Hitman079 wrote:jnd seems suspicious...he says he's a noob..but he doesn't look it to me..besides we do have a deadline, right? or someone back there said "no deadline"..anyways
vote jnd
my spidey sense tells me people will switch their votes to me again

note: these posts were on page 77

Hitman079 wrote:umm.unvote jnd?

edit: replaced "78" with "77"