Streaker's F11 Game Over (4/9) MAFIA WIN (archive plz)

[subtleknifewield]

Just so you know, Aage is the most experienced mafia player here. So, judge him very harshly.

We need to hear more from Aage, wcw/replacement, and risky. That's 1/3 of the players we aren't going to be able to get a read on if they don't look alive.

Noted, I will filter his actions through this new information from now on.

i dont know what to make of it... you all make good points and arguments i am constantly changing my mind about who i think is suspicious..

mad mitch seems to be making his way through the list accusing tim, aage... and now bosaard for possibly being tims partner in crime despite bosaard firstly calling tim suspicious for not reading the setup.. also throwing in other mafias and roles that were never mentioned doesnt help me lol..

i cant work out tim.. i dont know if he is suspicious or if pt and subtle are trying really hard to make him look suspicious by exaggerating his comments and making us read more in to them... also subtle voting for pt at the start and then unvoting may have been a decoy.. im suspicious of everything now do u see why i am having so much trouble coming up with posts

bos seems to be trying to work it out but i dont know if he is just making good points about people that arent guilty because he knows who is.. but at the moment i think safe

aage hasnt really said much... other than a few comments early on and then a comment about not much happening on day 1 so i dont have much on him

still working on my thoughts for epi

Heh, welcome to Mafia. That's the process we all have to go through XD

@ Everyone, you can call me a she, not because I have some sort of fetish, I am simply female *shock* *modkill*

Lol, ok.

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Hmmm...CC is behaving weirdly for me atm, the forums look all strange, too distracting to say anything meaningful beyond this right now.

[subtleknifewield]

Huh...and NOW it works just fine, ok. I hate the internet sometimes. XD

I suppose I'll need to reread everything now and analyze it again now that I know who's a veteran and who is actually new to the game.

[bosaardbeitje]

Seems like we found our common ground. Aage has been AWOL for what, 3 days now? Probably likes how we fall over each other, while he is lurking.

vote aage

[aage]

Busy weekend, haven't been able to post. Looks like people are falling over each other to vote me over it, that's nice. I'll give some reads, maybe that will help.

I'm not sure how I feel about pt's zeal. After he votes wcw, Tim votes him because voting inactives is pointless. I make that point nearly every game so I agree. PT's response and scumreads are very heavily indicated towards Tim being scum... but he's voting wcw, and didn't vote anyone before that. PT posted earlier about Tim's four "quick defensive posts", but didn't vote him then either. What happened between that post and these posts? Subtle voted Tim, and Tim voted PT. This strikes me as odd. Tim's vote shouldn't need such a large post in response. If you look at PT's list of reads, Tim is his top scum read. But he never votes Tim. So let me ask you PT, what was the point of those posts?

I suppose Tim is slightly defensive but that's to be expected. Currently I don't think he's scum, so I'll unvote.

Epi's point about Subtle is good, I hadn't caught that in my read. I'm inclined to jump on that wagon.

Mitch's posts are quite confusing. He's strawmanning nearly everything that crosses his path.


Bosaard, this post is from yesterday:

Sorry, just revisited your posts. Your second suspect is Aage. Hmmmmm not much common ground yet.

Do you have a golden rule of 3 days = scummy? You changed your opinion fairly opportunistically.

[bosaardbeitje]

Bosaard, this post is from yesterday:

Sorry, just revisited your posts. Your second suspect is Aage. Hmmmmm not much common ground yet.

Do you have a golden rule of 3 days = scummy? You changed your opinion fairly opportunistically.

Yes.

[TimWoodbury]

and why is it 3 days that you choose to call skummy?

[madmitch]

nice pun aage strawmanning, since the last person I looked at was bosaard whos picture just happens to be a strawberry have not lost my mind yet ,but am getting close

[ptlowe]

Busy weekend, haven't been able to post. Looks like people are falling over each other to vote me over it, that's nice. I'll give some reads, maybe that will help.

I'm not sure how I feel about pt's zeal. After he votes wcw, Tim votes him because voting inactives is pointless. I make that point nearly every game so I agree. PT's response and scumreads are very heavily indicated towards Tim being scum... but he's voting wcw, and didn't vote anyone before that. PT posted earlier about Tim's four "quick defensive posts", but didn't vote him then either. What happened between that post and these posts? Subtle voted Tim, and Tim voted PT. This strikes me as odd. Tim's vote shouldn't need such a large post in response. If you look at PT's list of reads, Tim is his top scum read. But he never votes Tim. So let me ask you PT, what was the point of those posts?

Im trying to push people to get reads before the final vote. I have my read on Tim need to find reads on the others to ensure Im not missing the scum partner...Very Very convient post after you get two votes. You are definitely raising my bar as a scummy player. WCW was to push him in case he was just hiding...My vote on you was the same...and I got results on that one. Hmmmm......suspicious.

[ptlowe]

nice pun aage strawmanning, since the last person I looked at was bosaard whos picture just happens to be a strawberry have not lost my mind yet ,but am getting close

You have had very few posts that make sense......Your like the second most experienced person here...Are you even trying?

[TimWoodbury]

Busy weekend, haven't been able to post. Looks like people are falling over each other to vote me over it, that's nice. I'll give some reads, maybe that will help.

I'm not sure how I feel about pt's zeal. After he votes wcw, Tim votes him because voting inactives is pointless. I make that point nearly every game so I agree. PT's response and scumreads are very heavily indicated towards Tim being scum... but he's voting wcw, and didn't vote anyone before that. PT posted earlier about Tim's four "quick defensive posts", but didn't vote him then either. What happened between that post and these posts? Subtle voted Tim, and Tim voted PT. This strikes me as odd. Tim's vote shouldn't need such a large post in response. If you look at PT's list of reads, Tim is his top scum read. But he never votes Tim. So let me ask you PT, what was the point of those posts?

Im trying to push people to get reads before the final vote. I have my read on Tim need to find reads on the others to ensure Im not missing the scum partner...Very Very convient post after you get two votes. You are definitely raising my bar as a scummy player. WCW was to push him in case he was just hiding...My vote on you was the same...and I got results on that one. Hmmmm......suspicious.

im jsut gonan say ur read on me is incorrect, like i aid beor i got the game down to 2 possable set ups. if i last to d2 i will be able to shed some light hopeully but killing me would be really bad

[ptlowe]

dude having a hard time connecting what you are trying to say....how shit faced are you lol.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

im jsut gonan say ur read on me is incorrect, like i aid beor i got the game down to 2 possable set ups. if i last to d2 i will be able to shed some light hopeully but killing me would be really bad

I am just going to say your read on me is incorrect, like i said before I got the game down to 2 possible set ups. If I last to D2 I will be able to shed some light hopefully, but killing me would be really bad.

[bosaardbeitje]

Tim, you making yourself a target for a nightkill does absolutely not make sense to me at all. I deliberately ignored the previous post in which you said something similar about narrowing it down to 2 set-ups and now you find it necessary to throw it out here again? Why do you find it necessary to claim a PR twice? Are you asking to get killed?

You sort of disappeared from most scumdars but you are practically asking to get back on. Please explain to me how this should help us.

Experienced players? What to make of this...

[ptlowe]

thanks Wing, are you the replacement?

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

thanks Wing, are you the replacement?

No.

[aage]

Wing is our translator

[bosaardbeitje]

Unpaid I hope?

[ptlowe]

Tim, you making yourself a target for a nightkill does absolutely not make sense to me at all. I deliberately ignored the previous post in which you said something similar about narrowing it down to 2 set-ups and now you find it necessary to throw it out here again? Why do you find it necessary to claim a PR twice? Are you asking to get killed?

You sort of disappeared from most scumdars but you are practically asking to get back on. Please explain to me how this should help us.

Experienced players? What to make of this...

Yeah he went from claiming a soft VT to a hard claim on a PR.....and he now he needs a translator....

[aage]

Tim, you making yourself a target for a nightkill does absolutely not make sense to me at all. I deliberately ignored the previous post in which you said something similar about narrowing it down to 2 set-ups and now you find it necessary to throw it out here again? Why do you find it necessary to claim a PR twice? Are you asking to get killed?

You sort of disappeared from most scumdars but you are practically asking to get back on. Please explain to me how this should help us.

Experienced players? What to make of this...

What do I make of this? If Tim is vt, this is great play. If he is cop, I'm gonna facepalm very hard if he is dead tomorrow. But either way he's playing the bluffing game here, right? If he's VT, he wants to get killed. If he's cop, he wants the maf to think he wants to get killed, and in both cases he doesn't want to get lynched. Though I guess you're referring to the third option, which is Tim is mafia. Right now I'd rather not see anyone push him to claim definitively, because that's pretty sketchy. I don't mind being kept in the dark about whether he claims vt or cop - it doesn't matter to me right now, I don't really want to lynch him anyway.

fp by 2
Could be a hard claim or a bluff. Don't think it should be pushed. You can punish me later if he flips scum but right now it's dangerous play to push.

[aage]

Forgot to add. If Tim is not the cop, the real cop should not counterclaim today.

[ptlowe]

Forgot to add. If Tim is not the cop, the real cop should not counterclaim today.

Nor should Doc be counterclaimed.

[bosaardbeitje]

Thanks for enlightening me, let the scum figure it out then...

[TimWoodbury]

Tim, you making yourself a target for a nightkill does absolutely not make sense to me at all. I deliberately ignored the previous post in which you said something similar about narrowing it down to 2 set-ups and now you find it necessary to throw it out here again? Why do you find it necessary to claim a PR twice? Are you asking to get killed?

You sort of disappeared from most scumdars but you are practically asking to get back on. Please explain to me how this should help us.

Experienced players? What to make of this...

well if i die n1 then at least it will shed some light. im seeing pt as town just wanting to get results but hes got tunnel vision so me dieing will allow him to get out of that tunnel vision he has right now

[TimWoodbury]

then again aybe pt has that tunnel vision as he is skum so he dont care if i get lynched he can say oh well bad read off previous play on second thought its odd that hes read me as skum right from the get go so maybe he is skum either way im lynched today or im night killed and his tunnel vision on me will be gone

[ptlowe]

then again aybe pt has that tunnel vision as he is skum so he dont care if i get lynched he can say oh well bad read off previous play on second thought its odd that hes read me as skum right from the get go so maybe he is skum either way im lynched today or im night killed and his tunnel vision on me will be gone

You only have one vote on you now Tim. No need to go claiming power roles. Also, if your actually reading you will see my vote is on someone else and your not the only one Im pressuring.