Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest

Gilligan · Post by **Gilligan** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:35 pm

Pirates of the Caribbean: At Worlds End

hawkeye · Post by **hawkeye** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:37 pm

huh kinda obvious should have seen that coming

Gilligan · Post by **Gilligan** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:42 pm

yeah.

morph · Post by **morph** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:31 pm

ya umm i think one of the people who plays in guitar in rolling stones plays Jacks father... Keith something..

Truman · Post by **Truman** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:21 pm

Keith Richards. Gore has been trying ever since the second movie to try to get him in to play Jack's dad. Keith agreed to do it, but he had a tour to go on with the Rolling Stones: no cameo in Pirates 2. But there's still a chance he might be in the 3rd installment.

I thought it was great. My mom and sister thought it was weird, awful, violent, but good. They know we have to get it because we have the first movie. I also thought it was pretty strange.

The main thing the movie does at the end is say: See the third film. There's also a 15 second scene after all the credits run through. I didn't know it when we were in the theatre, but I supposed there was since there was one at the end of the first, and made my mom and sis stay until the end. It's kinda dumb, but funny.

Hawkeye: "The bearded guy at the end," and the "Yes...but I forgot it" lines cracked me up. How could you forget the first movie? Ok, recap. Barbossa dies at the end of CotBP, but apparently not, because the "bearded guy at the end" is Barbossa, and he's eating an apple, which means his curse is lifted. And this isn't a spoiler, since the cast list on IMDB has "Geoffrey Rush -- Barbossa" in plain black and white.

Ok, Barbossa lives and the curse is lifted from him; but how? Here's my theory. Barbossa dies in the end of the first film; we know that. But did he really die? Him getting shot, falling on the treasure pile, and dropping the green apple in his left hand wasn't necessarily lethal. At the very end of the movie, after the credits, there is a short scene where the pet monkey swims back to the cave and takes a piece of the cursed treasure of Cortez. Remember when the monkey was thrown off the Black Pearl by Elizabeth? Things are coming together now, aren't they?

The monkey didn't die, it just was thrown off the ship. NO DEATH! Remeber that. So, if the monkey swam back to the cave, took the coin, and gave the coin to Barbossa, Barbossa would live again. Ah, you say impossible? Not so. One shot in his chest might not have killed him, but shocked him a bit. It's possible. It would have taken the monkey about an hour to swim back to the cave. Victims who have been shot in the chest have survived for that long without any medical equipment of any kind; I've read about it. The bullet could have possibly missed Barbossa's heart by an inch or so, since pistols like Jack's were very inaccurate at the time, plus you've got to take in mind it was never used for at least 10 years.

Anyway, Barbossa is given the coin and he lives. Then, he could have waited in the cave until his chest healed up. Then he could put some of his blood on the coin and return it to the chest, thus, no more curse on Barbossa. BUT, the monkey still endures the curse because its blood was never repaid, only Barbossa's. Therefore, Barbossa's reason for eating an apple as he enters the scene at the end of the second film.

And that's how it most likely happened.

Great film; I eagerly await the third and final installment.

--Truman

TitusFinn · Post by **TitusFinn** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:45 pm

morph wrote:ya umm i think one of the people who plays in guitar in rolling stones plays Jacks father... Keith something..

Did he just say... "Keith something" ? I am so old.

2dimes · Post by **2dimes** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:00 am

As old as Mr. Richards?

kingwaffles · Post by **kingwaffles** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:42 am

Truman wrote: The monkey didn't die, it just was thrown off the ship. NO DEATH! Remeber that. So, if the monkey swam back to the cave, took the coin, and gave the coin to Barbossa, Barbossa would live again. Ah, you say impossible? Not so. One shot in his chest might not have killed him, but shocked him a bit. It's possible. It would have taken the monkey about an hour to swim back to the cave. Victims who have been shot in the chest have survived for that long without any medical equipment of any kind; I've read about it. The bullet could have possibly missed Barbossa's heart by an inch or so, since pistols like Jack's were very inaccurate at the time, plus you've got to take in mind it was never used for at least 10 years.

I was thinking the exact same thing! Though I didn't see the thing with the monkey at the end of the first.

Sammy gags · Post by **Sammy gags** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:33 am

its hard 2 kill ppl in that movie.

strike wolf · Post by **strike wolf** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:34 am

Yes, and you just had your 100th post.

sportsdd2 · Post by **sportsdd2** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:54 pm

i havent seen the movie quite yet but from wat i have heard its really good.

O and lets all gag now for sammy

Evil Pope · Post by **Evil Pope** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:30 pm

Truman wrote:Anyway, Barbossa is given the coin and he lives. Then, he could have waited in the cave until his chest healed up. Then he could put some of his blood on the coin and return it to the chest, thus, no more curse on Barbossa. BUT, the monkey still endures the curse because its blood was never repaid, only Barbossa's. Therefore, Barbossa's reason for eating an apple as he enters the scene at the end of the second film.

But in the first film, none of the pirates could remove the curse until Bill Turner's blood was repaid as well.. So If the monkey had taken the coin and then given it to barbossa, and then Barbossa repaid the blood, wouldn't the monkey need to do the same in order for the curse to lift from either of them?
So lets say that thats the case..
Then why would the monkey still be cursed? Then maybe Barbossa is still cursed..

and he's eating an apple, which means his curse is lifted.

Maybe it doesn't necesarily mean that the curse is lifted, maybe they just made him eating an apple, because he dropped one when he died?
Or if the curse is lifted from Barbossa, then maybe after him and the monkey had repaid blood, the monkey, being a stupid monkey, took some more treasure?
It just doesn't seem to make much sense to me.. hopefully they'll tell us what happened in the final part.. Which i'm waiting impatiently for

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Truman · Post by **Truman** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:01 am

The monkey was an animal, why would it count? The monkey isn't experiencing the pains of being consumed by greed, so I think blood of monkey wouldn't matter.

Why would he be eating an apple? Is he just obsessed with apples so much that he must come back with one even though it wouldn't matter to him since he can't taste it?

Whatever. It's a theory, and you're right: we'll see what happens.

strike wolf · Post by **strike wolf** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:05 am

Hands off the monkey.

Sammy gags · Post by **Sammy gags** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:20 am

i have a feeling that the apple was the poisened apple

morph · Post by **morph** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:52 pm

i have a feeling i wanna see the third movie...

strike wolf · Post by **strike wolf** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:59 pm

The third movie is going to be awesome.

sportsdd2 · Post by **sportsdd2** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:00 pm

my dad says its a lil hard to follow does it go off the 1st movie?

strike wolf · Post by **strike wolf** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:01 pm

somewhat. You have to remember some of the first movie but in its own way it's independent from the first.

Truman · Post by **Truman** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:55 pm

Except for Barbossa at the end. For that, you must watch the first one first to understand the coolness of that scene.

strike wolf · Post by **strike wolf** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:55 am

Yeah, btw you shouldn't have told them that and two, that was the best twist I've seen in a while.

Bozo · Post by **Bozo** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:30 am

i saw this movie last night, i thought that it was okish, mainly because it was a okish movie it wasn't great but it didn't want to make me rip out my eyes after seeing it

strike wolf · Post by **strike wolf** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:33 am

U don't know what you are talking about.

Bozo · Post by **Bozo** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:34 am

ya i think i do

strike wolf · Post by **strike wolf** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:37 am

whatever.

Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest

Is this a good movie?