The Great Lakes -- [Quenched]

Unit_2 · Post by **Unit_2** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:50 pm

Updated list:

Flags:
Unit_2
dominationnation
wrightfan123
casper
Ninja-Town
haoala
Guiscard
Molacole
fluffybunnykins
Gozar

No Flags:
DiM
t.e.c
MR. Nate
wiggybowler
ruthlessontogeny
joeyjordison
luckywar
Gilligan

wiggybowler · Post by **wiggybowler** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:28 pm

I like the flags, I just meant that it looks cleaner without them, but I would not mind it either way. This is a very good looking map

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:21 am

With Flags. It looks better.

Coleman · Post by **Coleman** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:29 am

I should be on the no flags list, that we don't need because the poll already shows that reason loses out to flagets.

Molacole · Post by **Molacole** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:51 am

Unit_2 wrote:Updated list:

Flags:
Unit_2
dominationnation
wrightfan123
casper
Ninja-Town
haoala
Guiscard
Molacole
fluffybunnykins
Gozar

No Flags:
DiM
t.e.c
MR. Nate
wiggybowler
ruthlessontogeny
joeyjordison
luckywar
Gilligan

I didn't vote because I only like the two flags I mentioned, but not enough to vote for flags. I'm leaning more towards no flags, but not enough to contribute to the voting process because I like both...

cairnswk · Post by **cairnswk** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:44 am

Sorry WM..i have to say no flags.

Keredrex · Post by **Keredrex** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:16 pm

NO FLAGS

I think It looks Cleaner Without the flags...
Awesome Map.... Can't Wait to play

mibi · Post by **mibi** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:57 pm

yeah flags are silly, there are about 47 people on earth who can recognize OIhio's flag, and about 3 people who a can do it on this map.

Kugelblitz22 · Post by **Kugelblitz22** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:15 pm

If you didn't tell people they were flags most wouldn't even know. Michigan's flag for example looks a like skid mark or something...

Looking forward to playing this map no matter it rocks!

PimpCaneYoAss · Post by **PimpCaneYoAss** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:37 pm

no flags

WidowMakers · Post by **WidowMakers** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:01 pm

I am going to let the poll go for several more days. I would like to see a much more lopsided poll to determine a winner. If not I will decide.

Aside from the flags, are there any other things people see that need to be changed? If not then I will start working on the XML. And since the army numbers are centered then I don't see a problem with that aspect.

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:09 pm

I've decided not to maul everyone to death over the territory names. I would prefer it the other way, but it's fine the way it is, and frankly, I don't want this map in the foundry forever.

And boo flags.

Janiv · Post by **Janiv** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:32 pm

I originally voted flags but after looking at the map again I had to ask myself what I was thinking. The no flags version is way better and much easier to read and so much more clear.

Evil DIMwit · Post by **Evil DIMwit** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:46 pm

I think flags really give the map style. Otherwise, it just looks like a bunch of boring colored terrain.

JerenYun · Post by **JerenYun** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:01 pm

I voted flags. They add more to the continents than just color. I like how it looks.

jnd94 · Post by **jnd94** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:18 pm

two thumbs up for flags. they look great and give the map some more pizzazz

Coleman · Post by **Coleman** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 3:21 pm

It looks like the flagets have this one...

Oh well the map looks great either way.

WidowMakers · Post by **WidowMakers** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:21 pm

Well it looks like the flags won. Here are the pics with and without armies. Thanks to Coleman for doing the XML.
Large

Small

Thanks again Coleman
http://members.cox.net/gyrigo/CC/TheGreatLakes_01.xml

edbeard · Post by **edbeard** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:29 pm

I'll say this for the third time!

49 countries so you should get rid of one.

Or, give us an awesome reason why 49 is better than 48

WidowMakers · Post by **WidowMakers** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:33 pm

edbeard wrote:I'll say this for the third time!

49 countries so you should get rid of one.

Or, give us an awesome reason why 49 is better than 48

Why do we need to get rid of 1? So what if there are 49. I added 1 to Illinois and kept all of the rest. There were 48 before that.

musicman_379 · Post by **musicman_379** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:54 pm

Looks Great.

Can't wait to play the map.

edbeard · Post by **edbeard** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:02 pm

WidowMakers wrote:Why do we need to get rid of 1? So what if there are 49. I added 1 to Illinois and kept all of the rest. There were 48 before that.

well neutrals in every single game type versus neutrals only in a 5 man game.

If no one thinks its a big deal, then i guess whatever, but I think you should have a reason for having 49.

Like you said, you added one to Illinois so why not just take it out?

Coleman · Post by **Coleman** » Tue May 01, 2007 3:52 pm

What's wrong with neutrals?

Futurama wrote:Tell my wife, hello.

Okay, I went through and checked the history, the 49 occurred when Ohio had a split. Illinois was split earlier to make it 48. I am not sure why Ohio or Illinois were split though. I am assuming it had something to do with continent/bonus balancing or the like.

Oh, and the current breakdown:
3 Players
16 per player
1 Neutral

4 Players
12 per player
1 Neutral

5 Players
9 per player
4 Neutral

6 Players
8 per player
1 Neutral

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Tue May 01, 2007 6:21 pm

Well, I've been following the production of this map from when it first started out, and I must say I am pretty impressed, especially by the visuals.

I think going with the flags like a number of other people suggested was an interesting and unique way to go. I like it.

The color scheme is also very pleasing to the eye. The colors don't stand out too much and strain my eye...I like that!

And I think the lakes being playable will make this map very interesting, somewhat similar to Alexander the Great's Empire map, but as the lakes are a central figure, I think they will play much more of a strategic role for everyone than the seas in that map.

And I recall you mentioning a long while back ago in the post that eventually you'd fix up the names and align them, or at least I think I recall reading that

Hm, I'm jumping around, but the way the Title is currently, looks a little odd. It hink it may be the graphics...it feels a little out of place and pasted on almost like. The rest of the map blends nicely together, but I don't get that same meshing feel. The same may be true of the Mini-map also.

And the non-gameboard water also looks a little odd when comparing it to the lakes, but that may not be a bad thing, it just caught my eye.

Something to consider, perhaps making the 'hold' descriptions a little more noticeable. How? I am not sure, maybe the use of some colors could do that. Maybe a blue on the 'lake' words...I don't know. Just a small idea.

Hm and lastly, the compass also looks and feels a little odd to me. I'm not sure why, I can't quite put my finger on it...Ah oh well!

Keep up the good work!

--Andy

The1exile · Post by **The1exile** » Tue May 01, 2007 6:27 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:And I think the lakes being playable will make this map very interesting, somewhat similar to Alexander the Great's Empire map, but as the lakes are a central figure, I think they will play much more of a strategic role for everyone than the seas in that map.

Just on a side note - I would disagree that the seas in Alex's empire aren't strategic - on the contrary, med and aegean seas are very hotly contested territories for control of Ptolemy and Kassander (unsurprisingly due to their significant reduction of borders).

The Great Lakes -- [Quenched]

NO FLags