Modern Warfare Mafia Day 6(Town Win!)

[Army of GOD]

It must've been one of those welfare flashbangs that I always use that never work on people/claymores. >.<

[LSU Tiger Josh]

Vote Strike Wolf I found you guilty sir lol.

[Army of GOD]

Haha, Vote strike wolf. He hasn't failed us yet so I guess we can trust him.

[strike wolf]

I'm not actually surprised here seeing as I was visited by spiesr last night. No reason to hesitate on role claim. I am a tracker. I could follow someone during the night without being detected and see who they visited/targetted. I used my ability on UTAlan on Night 0 getting no result. On Night 1 I investigated LSU, my results that he visited vodean was confirmed in thread. Night 2-I visited wercool, I believe my results were tampered with on this by taco-man here as I got the result that he visited himself. On night 3 I tracked spiesr and received information that he visited me. I didn't mention that he had visited me sooner as I thought it would be premature to say it before any investigation fell on me.

[LSU Tiger Josh]

unvote I checked with the mod and even on dying mod stated that all actions will be simultaneous such as a vigilante still sending and doing his night kill on a night he might be killed by scum.

[ga7]

Dude lol, sometimes scum go just a little step too far but you took that a mile further, "I happened to track the framer who just died thus proving me innocent" is entertaining though
The "wercool visited himself" makes no sense for a busdriver anyway. Normally with a tracker or a watcher you'd see two people visited anyway. But since Wercool is the only guy you used that is actually alive, why not clear the matter with him and ask him if he even used a night action that night?
(my money is actually on both of them being guilty :p)

[ga7]

Hmm this could be the last scum actually, I hope so as 2 scum teams of 3 would be hard to swallow. And since Strike wolf was making cult theories it'd make sense if he's part of the mafia. Anyway if this proves correct holy shit LSU you actually visited 3 scum in 3 consecutive nights

[strike wolf]

Ga, there wasn't any "just happened to visit Spiesr the night he framed me". I found him suspicious early on yesterday when he was pushing for UTA's lynch. When UTA turned up mafia I suspected Spiesr of being cult so I followed him. As far as wercool, I wasn't really sure what him coming up as visiting him meant at the time and thought maybe it had something to do with his role that scewed my results or that he actually did visit himself. I didn't want to risk exposing myself as a power role to any potential scum so I didn't pursue the matter.

Give me a chance to prove my innocence tonight. Select a target for me to track and have LSU investigate me again. If you still think I'm scum tomorrow after the results come back lynch me then but at least give me one night to try and prove my innocence.

[ga7]

Let's imagine for a minute you're telling the truth. Something doesn't add up with your behavior this present day then: you just got your result of spiesr targeting you, he is revealed as a mafia framer and the only thing you would think to say is a vague comment about the forces in presence? And even more, asking LSU what he did? Seriously? Not even a "Uh oh I saw that coming" or an even smarter "I was visited by him!"? You obviously knew what a framer was so it makes even less sense.
I'll go check other loopholes in your fakeclaim

[wercool]

okay ill claim, i am also a cop. my investigations so far have been. investigated colton night0 got guilty. night 1 investigated UTAlan got innocent. night 2 lsu came up innocent. night 4 investigated army of god and got guilty. so what do you think?

[ga7]

After rereading the whole thread...

Strike Wolf went against LSU's no lynch day 1 by joining the bandwagon late on him, before changing his mind when the town votes went away.

Spiesr's play was very interesting and I'm glad he got NKed as he would have been hard to find out with his subtlety. He had this a posteriori revealing take on cult back at day 1:

After analyzing the little that I know about this game at this point I am strongly leaning towards the idea that this game is has recruiting in it. It seems like letting the recruiter(s) get his first recruit safely was the entire point of having a night 0. In light of this possibility I don't think I can really support a no lynch at this point as the most likely recruiters are anti-town roles. Giving them more free time to recruit can't be a good thing in that case, especially when they would have the potential to subvert town power roles like cop.

I sure hope he was just wanting to spread confusion as he foresaw Vodean getting lynched since he was trying to help him out of his noob mistakes. It would make sense anyway for cult to make us believe there is a recruiter, but then there was Vodean being a moron and screwing up his work.

Cena, which is 99% clear townie (even with taco man busdriving he has been behaving town when he was actually posting) had surprisingly good insights:

Not much to speculate on...We did have a night 0 so obviously we have some non-killing power roles out there but I'm sure most have already figured that out. From the size of the game I can't imagine there being much of a third party...possible cult recruiter, possible serial killer...could also mean mafia has a cop/role blocker or any other role that could apply in that scenario. there are 12 people in this game so it would be hard to imagine more than 3 (maybe 4 at most...) mafia members unless there's just a lot of power roles. Too much just joke posting to really have any kind of lead...

unvote vote strike wolf the people that try to use logic so early on are ALWAYS scum, 100% of the time....SCUMZOR

Ok, that is random

Im posting, Im posting.

My personal opinion is that there would not be as many killing roles as ga7 has fantasised; LSU can be aggressive when at L-2 and that UTAlan or vodean are scum being as how they jumped on a 3 vote wagon. That being said, unvote vote vodean however, despite his logic I am suspicious of him.

Ill go back to lurking now

Ah Wercool posted while I was rereading so that makes a new twist to it
Hmm I think you're honest, you wouldn't have to claim right now if you were scum as your actions aren't directly related to Strike Wolf. It also explains why you were after me day 1. You seem to be an insane cop (ie gets "innocent" instead of "guilty" and vice versa) which means three important things:
-AoG and me are innocent
-Taco busdrived LSU with a scum night 2 which makes Strike Wolf's claim bogus, as there is no way LSU is scum at this point, except if he was cult recruited but it is quite unlikely there is a recruiter
-It's highly doubtful there is a sane cop, an insane cop and on top of it a tracker in this game

That leaves Gregwolf (and well, Wercool) as unchecked, and if Strike Wolf is by some huge stretch town we know where to look next...
Vote Strike Wolf because of this final strike

[cena-rules]

okay ill claim, i am also a cop. my investigations so far have been. investigated colton night0 got guilty. night 1 investigated UTAlan got innocent. night 2 lsu came up innocent. night 4 investigated army of god and got guilty. so what do you think?

One of 2 things could have come from this. Either you are paranoid, which means that LSU would be scum, which i suppose is possible. Secondly you are telling the truth and were bus drivered(sp?) when you got UTA as innocent and therefore AOG is scum/cult?

Either way, Im going to believe noone for now so FOS strike wolf and wercool and AOG

[strike wolf]

Let's imagine for a minute you're telling the truth. Something doesn't add up with your behavior this present day then: you just got your result of spiesr targeting you, he is revealed as a mafia framer and the only thing you would think to say is a vague comment about the forces in presence? And even more, asking LSU what he did? Seriously? Not even a "Uh oh I saw that coming" or an even smarter "I was visited by him!"? You obviously knew what a framer was so it makes even less sense.
I'll go check other loopholes in your fakeclaim

I knew I was visited by him yes but I didn't feel pointing out that I was visited by him without knowing I had been investigated at the time was unnecessary. Maybe I was a bit careless there but I didn't find bringing attention to it would be the smartest thing as if I revealed that I was visited by him it would draw unnecessary attention to the fact that I was a power role.

As far as wercool's statement goes, if you got a guilty on colton (Ga7) night 0 why didn't you mention this in thread? I know you are more or less a noob at mafia but it doesn't make sense to me why you would not say anything other than a random vote against him and than being so willing to quickly change your vote to LSU than to no lynch while you have a guilty verdict on someone in the game. It seems to me you would have pressed for lynching Ga7 at least a little harder than you did if you had actually gotten a guilty verdict insane cop or not.

Yes I joined in on voting LSU late after initially FOSing him. I went away one day and he hadn't mentioned anything about the no lynch come back the next day or so and there was already a 4 person band wagon on him. I didn't like the idea of a no lynch so I pressed him for a reason and when I didn't like his reason I voted him. His reasoning turned out well for the town in the long run yes but I still don't agree with the logic. And yes I was late unvoting LSU, the reason at the time was actually that I had been theorizing he was in a 2 person cult (recruiter and first night recruit with you, Ga7) when cena came out and also supported the no lynch I didn't find it likely that there would be a three person cult group that early in the game and after rereading LSU's posts reevaluated my theory.

[safariguy5]

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strike wolf-1 (AoG, ga7)

[Army of GOD]

Unvote, I guess we should let this cool down first then.

I'm a bit confused by strike/ga7's drama because I'm not really sure what a framer does (swtiches two people's roles if they get investigated? Idk), but I'd have to assume wercool is a crazy-cop, considering UTA was guilty and I'm (at this point only I'd know) innocent. But then LSU coming up innocent? Would the results wercool is getting be random?

[safariguy5]

Vote Count

strike wolf-1 (ga7)

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

[LSU Tiger Josh]

Framer basically makes an innocent person look guilty if they were investigated that night.

[cena-rules]

Framer basically makes an innocent person look guilty if they were investigated that night.

Hmmmm, well assuming this is true, I think we should vote AOG as we have a cop investigation and if he is not scum then we can look at this "cop" in wercool

[ga7]

Damn you Cena, I start believing in you and you screw up your credibility
Guys, the bottom of this is that Wercool can't be sane. Why on earth would we have two sane cops? So at best he's insane, at worst he's random. I find insane more likely than random since everything fits but the LSU investigation, and our busdriver was still active that night. It would make sense for Taco to busdrive LSU after he claimed since it's a good way to protect a power role, so again it's pretty likely. It's a pity we don't know for sure what Taco did as if Wercool is indeed an insane cop that means the person he busdrived LSU with was scum.
At this point IMO there is two options, just going from sense: either Strike Wolf is scum or Wercool is. If Wercool was scum, why bother claiming at this point when he shut up about his investigations, even the guilty ones, from the start? The only other possibility is that Wercool is in fact a random cop but then that doesn't change anything for Strike Wolf's case, he's the most likely scum.

[wercool]

day 1 i wanted to make sure i wasnt paranoid so i didnt claim. day 2 strike wolf had allready claimed and if i counter-claimed him i would just look scummy. vote strike wolf

[ga7]

1 post in 2 days, this died why?

[strike wolf]

Sorry just haven't had much time to post last couple of days. Pretty much just found enough time to take my turns and make one comment in an unrelated thread.

As far as wercool's comment. It's a believable reason and I feel kind of dumb for not noticing the possibility that he was just being careful.

[safariguy5]

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[Army of GOD]

Eh, I feel like there's too much on you strike. I somewhat trust wercool in saying that he wanted to make sure he wasn't paranoid, I mean, that's smart, instead of "ZOMG HE'Z SCUMZORZ" after the first one. vote strike wolf

[safariguy5]

Vote Count
strike wolf-3 (ga7, wercool, AoG)
AoG-1 (Cena-rules)

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.