First of all, I am arguing more for argument's sake than for anything else. I fully believe the rule was and is in place solely because there are a far greater number of community players than there are mod players and it's to be fair to all the community that everybody gets a chance to play rather than a few people hogging all the games.
Ffraid wrote:denominator: Interesting argument. Almost had me. Man, Player Z really sucks
. But the point is not how bad Player Z is. He gets to join multiple games in either scenario. The point, I think, is that you don't know whether Players B through W, who got to join games because players X and Y didn't get to snap up as many as they possibly could before anyone else even had a chance to play, fared any better, or worse, than Players X and Y would have, had they been allowed to continue playing. A point which is supported by the first Whac-A-Mod competition, where the same people joined multiple games and the mods still won. I just don't see any evidence that the mods are giving themselves any advantage by setting a rule that will allow more people the opportunity to play.
To quote a fictional pirate, the rules are really more of guidelines. Obviously, there is nothing to prevent anyone from joining every game there, and the only punishment offered is sam pointing out that those who hog games risk not getting their medal. I read this as "don't join all the games and you won't be punished" rather than a strict "once you win one, if you join another you get banned for life". Again, this was all for fun more than anything and I've heard nothing but that sentiment echoed in this thread.
IF the rules were strict rules, I would have an issue with the overall score. However, like all things, there are far more variables, like people joining multiple games, the random maps, and the multiple-player games that only have 1 mod in them. But again, it's all for shits and giggles so it's all cool.
Ffraid wrote:Now, I do agree that they have an obvious advantage by being the ones who get to pick the settings, but that is not the statement to which I originally objected.
Nor a problem. I'd love to see some aspect where players pick settings, but I can see that being way too hard on the mods and so many ways that the community would abuse it, so it's best to leave that untouched.
Ffraid wrote:Not to sound like a mod suck up, because I am not a forum frequenter and I don't know any of them any better than I know you, but I have to agree with Pander, and I would imagine that you do as well, that the main purpose would seem to be to give people a chance to play the mods, who probably don't usually play too many public games (and to win medals
).
I fully agree with you here. I play in enough tournaments that I see a few of the coloured names in games here and there, but it's fun to have a little friendly competition every once in a while. The medals are just an added bonus in my opinion, the same as they are in the rest of the game.
Ffraid wrote:One question, when you say that "you are limiting who can play on one side of the battle," are you talking about the mods' side? Because there are a limited number of mods, but the rule discouraging people from playing in too many games would seem to be an attempt to not limit who all is playing for the community.
My view was (this is entirely hypothetical, I have absolutely zero evidence to back this up and it's more just an interesting thought than anything else) that if we take my above example of the 4 players and assign a rank to each of them as follows:
Mod A = Major
Player X = Colonel
Player Y = Captain
Player Z = Cadet
It seems logical to follow that the Captain and Colonel are far more likely to beat the Major than the Cadet (we all know that on CC this is not always the case). So essentially the Mods would be selecting more games against the Cadet than against the Colonel or Captain simply because the Colonel and Captain will get their win faster. Which means that the Mods are limiting the number of games that they play against high ranks while increasing the number against low ranks.
Again, this is all hypothetical and more of a thought experiment than anything else. But I think it's also fair to say that Player Z will probably come back after 10 losses simply because he wants to get his medal rather than actually having any fun at that point.
All in all, kudos to the Mods for a well run show, and please don't take any of my posts here personally.
