i will buy conquer club

[jefjef]

If I pitch in a dollar could I have site ban wrong button pushing powers? I have a list of 132 that I would be willing to spend that dollar on.

[mibi]

if you bought the site, will you do an xml update?

[Army of GOD]

What will you do about healthcare?

[scipioafricanus1]

HOLY HELL!

I actually laughed at one of Army of God's posts!

[Qwert]

Every Map maker have Agrement with Lack,so this mean that you need to make new agrement with map makers when you buy CC.

How much you think that Maps worth in CC?
How much you ready to invest in Map Foundry?
When you buy CC,will you remove some maps out of play?






































ps-this offer sound like some joke

[72o]

Every Map maker have Agrement with Lack,so this mean that you need to make new agrement with map makers when you buy CC.

Interesting point. What are the terms of that agreement? Can Lack sell the rights to use the maps to the new owner of the site? Or would that owner have to obtain new agreements from each map maker?

[StephenB]

this offer sound like some joke

Thanks for pointing that one out, I hadn't realised.

[Johnny Rockets]

Depending on the wording of the agreement, either the maps are property of C.C. and thus Lack's to dispose of as he sees fit, or every author would need to be negotiated with for the site to continue using them.

Which them poses the question of how much is a map worth, OR which map is worth what, as some are obviously more popular than others.

If the maps are not C.C. property, then this would change the value of the site significantly.

What do you think your maps are worth Qwert? Serious question.

Johnny Rockets

[Timminz]

What do you think your maps are worth Qwert? Serious question.

Last I heard, the going rate was $25, or equivalent, per map. Granted, that was quite a while ago.

[Knight2254]

I've been involved with a lot of purchases of companies and thing thing nobody has mentioned yet is earnings multiples. Usually purchases are made at prices relative to either EBITA (earnings before interest, taxes, and amortization) or net income times an earning multiple. Multiples are dependent on a number of things and vary depending on the state of the economy. It's essentially the sum of future earnings potential.

Thus if the site is raises 100K per year, we might expect a multiple of 7-8 (conservative and is reasonable in this economy) so a total purchase price of 700-800K. At the height of the boom I saw many manufacturing companies getting multiples of 12-15.

[ronsizzle]

i think the maps are property of lackattackinc.

the map makers sell their souls for 25 dollars.

10 maps would die during this transition.

mapmakers will have 401k and vacation days when the transition occurs.

[Bruceswar]

i think the maps are property of lackattackinc.

the map makers sell their souls for 25 dollars.

10 maps would die during this transition.

mapmakers will have 401k and vacation days when the transition occurs.

And which 10 are those?

[hahaha3hahaha]

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[natty dread]

Austerlitz is a great map. I'd rather remove crossword if any...

[Johnny Rockets]

I've been involved with a lot of purchases of companies and thing thing nobody has mentioned yet is earnings multiples. Usually purchases are made at prices relative to either EBITA (earnings before interest, taxes, and amortization) or net income times an earning multiple. Multiples are dependent on a number of things and vary depending on the state of the economy. It's essentially the sum of future earnings potential.

Thus if the site is raises 100K per year, we might expect a multiple of 7-8 (conservative and is reasonable in this economy) so a total purchase price of 700-800K. At the height of the boom I saw many manufacturing companies getting multiples of 12-15.

God-Dammit Man!!!!

Quit Cock-Blocking my cheque book!



JRock

[72o]

I've been involved with a lot of purchases of companies and thing thing nobody has mentioned yet is earnings multiples. Usually purchases are made at prices relative to either EBITA (earnings before interest, taxes, and amortization) or net income times an earning multiple. Multiples are dependent on a number of things and vary depending on the state of the economy. It's essentially the sum of future earnings potential.

Thus if the site is raises 100K per year, we might expect a multiple of 7-8 (conservative and is reasonable in this economy) so a total purchase price of 700-800K. At the height of the boom I saw many manufacturing companies getting multiples of 12-15.

In a past career path I did a fair amount of business valuation, and you are correct that earnings multiples are a widely accepted method of valuing investments. However, the earnings multiple you would use for valuing a metal fabrication company are widely different than that of a website such as this one. I'd be surprised if a widely accepted earnings multiple for a content-based website such as this one would exceed 1. This is mainly due to the fact that internet businesses are typically unstable, as we internet users tend to be a fickle bunch. Especially since the typical demographic on this site is young, and competing sites could steal away your business much more quickly and easily than in other businesses such as manufacturing, which develop customer bases more slowly, and retain those customers much longer. Since we already know that premium income is somewhere in the neighborhood of 125 to 150 dimes, that's probably a fair price for the website. Lack could probably make the case that an additional $25K or so in advertising revenue could be brought in by selling ad space displayed to freemium members.

[CaptainMoo]

i see that conquer club is worth an estimated 170,000 dollars.

i will pay lackattack 30 grand more than that for this site.

so that is an offer of 200 grand for conquer club.

this is a serious offer, and will wait to hear from lack himself...

I would think that the site is worth more than 170,000 dollars.

Where do you get your figures?

http://esitestats.com/www.conquerclub.com

that is where.

lol it also says Google.com http://esitestats.com/www.google.com is worth $777 million......ill snap that bargin up np

[riodeishere]

lol it also says Google.com http://esitestats.com/www.google.com is worth $777 million......ill snap that bargin up np

really if i had, 500k i'd buy paypal.com & paypal.co.uk
http://esitestats.com/www.paypal.com at only $297,971
http://esitestats.com/www.paypal.co.uk at only $203,010

i mean ebay payed $1.3billion, in stocks.(but they must have been riped off)
and paypal wants to have a multi billion turnover by 2050.
so great investment
great site Ron , perfect estimates.
but if were quite lack might not hear so shhhhhh

[Qwert]

ronc8649 wrote:
i think the maps are property of lackattackinc.

the map makers sell their souls for 25 dollars.

10 maps would die during this transition.

mapmakers will have 401k and vacation days when the transition occurs.

What??

*The Copyright Agreement
The author retains copyright on their work, and gives Conquer Club permission to use the imagery free of charge, for as long as Conquer Club sees fit on the Conquer Club website. Conquer Club cannot sell, lease, or lend the right to use the images to anyone else. The author swears that their map is their own work, or a legal derivative work and by submitting it, do hereby claim all responsibility for that being true.

10 maps will die?
This last i dont understand.

[72o]

Here's the agreement.

The author retains copyright on their work, and gives Conquer Club permission to use the imagery free of charge, for as long as Conquer Club sees fit on the Conquer Club website. Conquer Club cannot sell, lease, or lend the right to use the images to anyone else. The author swears that their map is their own work, or a legal derivative work and by submitting it, do hereby claim all responsibility for that being true.

So it looks like, if the conquer club website were sold, your agreement to allow conquer club permission to use the image would transfer to the new owner for as long as they see fit.

But, I'm not a lawyer, and I don't play one on TV, nor did I sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

[scipioafricanus1]

We have a winner.

72o is dead on

[ronsizzle]

thegreekdog is my lawyer, and he is in the process of the paperwork as we speak...

and yes, city mogul would be gone qwert! no more mogul....sorry guys. austerlitz has too many fans right now to kick it out. i would give a better explanation on it though for players. and improve graphics...

[ronsizzle]

lol it also says Google.com http://esitestats.com/www.google.com is worth $777 million......ill snap that bargin up np

really if i had, 500k i'd buy paypal.com & paypal.co.uk
http://esitestats.com/www.paypal.com at only $297,971
http://esitestats.com/www.paypal.co.uk at only $203,010

i mean ebay payed $1.3billion, in stocks.(but they must have been riped off)
and paypal wants to have a multi billion turnover by 2050.
so great investment
great site Ron , perfect estimates.
but if were quite lack might not hear so shhhhhh

you arent looking at the whole picture here. i didnt only derive at the numbers from that alone.

i would really flame you here, since that is what youre trying to provoke. but you dont have enough intelligence to come back with anything witty. maybe if your quite......oh, wait, you meant quiet. you wont wake the beast.

[laddida]

thegreekdog is my lawyer, and he is in the process of the paperwork as we speak...

and yes, city mogul would be gone qwert! no more mogul....sorry guys. austerlitz has too many fans right now to kick it out. i would give a better explanation on it though for players. and improve graphics...

Graphics are fine better than any other sites ive seen. Improve them too much you would lose some people if there are any upgradeable requirements. Some have restrictions at work and so on.

[nippersean]

ronc8649 wrote:
i think the maps are property of lackattackinc.

the map makers sell their souls for 25 dollars.

10 maps would die during this transition.

mapmakers will have 401k and vacation days when the transition occurs.

What??

*The Copyright Agreement
The author retains copyright on their work, and gives Conquer Club permission to use the imagery free of charge, for as long as Conquer Club sees fit on the Conquer Club website. Conquer Club cannot sell, lease, or lend the right to use the images to anyone else. The author swears that their map is their own work, or a legal derivative work and by submitting it, do hereby claim all responsibility for that being true.

10 maps will die?
This last i dont understand.

Chill qwert - only 5 of them will be yours

Also add - some of the worst valuation skills ever. It's about Ronc makes the site worth is the value