BREAKING NEWS : Auto Assault Intensity Levels Aren't Sticky.

[spiesr]

What is better than the dice we have? (Which are completely random.) Do you want something programed so they streaks are impossible and it sets it so you automatically win exactly have your rolls or what?

[ManBungalow]

I think that you should get better dice for buying premium
Lol
I seem to remember that the dice are taken by sounds on the air or something from random.org?

[Suzy1]

I don't expect to win every roll of the dice nor do I expect to win every game. However, recently I lost 4 games due to getting a player down to 1 army and was not able to take any of them out..In one game 7-1, in another game 8-1, another game 7-1 and yet another game 12-3! As I said before, this discussion, with complaints from so many members, always ends up dismissed. There are better programs, that probably cost more than what you're using here. The members here really do not have a choice and will continue playing with BS dice. Just don't tell me that I am wrong about I am saying!

[hulmey]

I think that you should get better dice for buying premium
Lol
I seem to remember that the dice are taken by sounds on the air or something from random.org?

a computer cannot generate randomness, so static noise (like lighting is added to them)...random.org claim to use this type of RNG but really they couldnt afford to give away such technology at such a cheap price. So, you either believe or dont believe...

[yeti_c]

your little test doesnt prove that the dice arent sticky lol. Also randomness cannot be proved by throwing a few thousand dice!

The dice are sticky! Today, i cant stop winning 3vs2 and attacker wins every roll. Its been like that all day. other days its the opposite.

Did you even read what the test did?

C.

[spiesr]

I don't expect to win every roll of the dice nor do I expect to win every game. However, recently I lost 4 games due to getting a player down to 1 army and was not able to take any of them out..In one game 7-1, in another game 8-1, another game 7-1 and yet another game 12-3! As I said before, this discussion, with complaints from so many members, always ends up dismissed. There are better programs, that probably cost more than what you're using here. The members here really do not have a choice and will continue playing with BS dice. Just don't tell me that I am wrong about I am saying!

No matter how random the dice are shit like that will still happen to people. Random does not mean fair or that what should happen does, it means random. Anything can happen.

[RADAGA]

Autoattack are not sticky... Dice, in general are

Game 3385666

2008-10-13 19:59:33 - RADAGA attacked Registrar from Admissions and conquered it from FelixKrull
2008-10-13 19:59:37 - RADAGA attacked Student Lounge from Registrar and conquered it from FelixKrull
2008-10-13 19:59:40 - RADAGA attacked Cafeteria from Student Lounge and conquered it from FelixKrull
2008-10-13 19:59:49 - RADAGA attacked Quad from Cafeteria and conquered it from FelixKrull

EACH OF THAT WAS HELD BY 1 ARMY. IT COSTED ME 12 ARMIES TO GET THEM ALL FOUR.

3x1 defence! defence! defence! wield
3x1 defence! defence! defence! wield
3x1 defence! defence! defence! wield
3x1 defence! defence! defence! wield

PRECISELY LIKE THAT! You will say thats perfectly normal, of course, you cannot say anything else.

Sure it is because of the 666 in that game number, i know it!

[e_i_pi]

A quick laugh...

I am, for some inexplicable reason, reminded of H.P. Lovecraft's masterful collection of tales titled "The Reanimator".
In other news: Why didn't you just let it die?

Now onto business...

BUT you stated that you never lost over 500 armies to kill the 500 defenders. So it is pointless if you had 100.000 or 1.000.000 armies, it matters that you made 23 attacks and never saw defense beat your kills.

Actually, attack 3x2 have a gross 9% edge so, technically, then you should win 6... perhaps 7 of each 10 attacks (or, rather, have more than 500 armies killed to kill 500 defenders)

Here's some rock-hard stats for you RADAGA, not just 9% crap pulled out of the air:
x vs. y -- Defender wins
50 v 50 - 26%
100 v 100 - 18%
150 v 150 - 12 %
200 v 200 - 9%
250 v 250 - 6.5%
Unfortunately, Excel only goes to 255 columns, otherwise I could caculate up to 500v500. We can extrapolate though, as the relative reduction in win% is 3/4 per 50 armies added to both sides. So, 500 v 500, the defender wins about 1.43% of the time. You say attacker should win 6 maybe 7 times out of ten, ie - 30-40% of the time. To put it in perspective, defender wins 30% of the time at 37 v 37, and 40% of the time at 14 v 14.

okay, random is random, so it is not granted that you will win only 15 of your 23 attacks. But we are not talking about luck or bad luck, that would cause you to win more or less than the 15 estimate. We are talking about a flawless serie of 23 attacks.

Assuming defender wins 1.43% of the time 500 v 500, that means attacker wins 23 out of 23 times about 72% of the time. A flawless series of 500 v 500 attacks with the attacker winning occurs 3 times out of every 4!

[e_i_pi]

So, why we see every day, at least one of our attacks get horribly ponded by defence, making a 14 x 2 end up as a 1 x 2 in the end (happened to me, 8 days ago, in a game where I lost 40 to 18 previously)

So, we can deduce that either:

1) Dice are flawed, somehow, since on certain games you seem to get bad luck, no matter what you do, while in others they behave properly. (and I am NOT talking about loosing an even ammount of armies, but I mean by bad luck that it is loosing 5 to 10 times more armies than defence when one should have the edge)

OR

2) We lie, when we report those horrible dice rolls.
I let you choose.

I'm going for the latter. If it started 14 x 2, and the defender stays at 2 the whole time, that means you lost 2 per roll. 14 minus 1 equals 13. 13 divided by 2 is 6.5. How did you roll 6.5 times? Give it up RADAGA, your lies are becoming tedious

[e_i_pi]

Anyone know what the odds of REAL dice rolling six straight sixes is?

Yes, it is 1/(6^6). And guess at how many times the dice have been rolled since the site started over two years ago...

And funny how many times this "once in a million" show up.....

1 in 46656 actually. Get your stats right

[RADAGA]

So, why we see every day, at least one of our attacks get horribly ponded by defence, making a 14 x 2 end up as a 1 x 2 in the end (happened to me, 8 days ago, in a game where I lost 40 to 18 previously)

So, we can deduce that either:

1) Dice are flawed, somehow, since on certain games you seem to get bad luck, no matter what you do, while in others they behave properly. (and I am NOT talking about loosing an even ammount of armies, but I mean by bad luck that it is loosing 5 to 10 times more armies than defence when one should have the edge)

OR

2) We lie, when we report those horrible dice rolls.
I let you choose.

I'm going for the latter. If it started 14 x 2, and the defender stays at 2 the whole time, that means you lost 2 per roll. 14 minus 1 equals 13. 13 divided by 2 is 6.5. How did you roll 6.5 times? Give it up RADAGA, your lies are becoming tedious

ZZZZ

14x2

3x2 def 2
3x2 def 2
3x2 def 2
3x2 def 2
3x2 def 2
2x2 def 2
1x2 def 1

is it that hard to see one getting pissed at losing several times in a row he just keep rolling? I am sure life must be hard for you, then.

The 9% "Crap" came from Hasbro itself....

anyway, dice are perfect, then, there is no need to invest anything more into research and development of random algorythims, since it is already perfected. NASA should use this data to calculate odds for it´s flights. It might have used it with challenger, I believe.

[comic boy]

Why is it always the good players that complain about the dice

[e_i_pi]

I'm going for the latter. If it started 14 x 2, and the defender stays at 2 the whole time, that means you lost 2 per roll. 14 minus 1 equals 13. 13 divided by 2 is 6.5. How did you roll 6.5 times? Give it up RADAGA, your lies are becoming tedious

ZZZZ

14x2

3x2 def 2 ->12v2
3x2 def 2 ->10v2
3x2 def 2 ->8v2
3x2 def 2 ->6v2
3x2 def 2 ->4v2
2x2 def 2 ->... hey wait a minute... now you're attacking with only 2? But you still have 4 attackers
1x2 def 1

This is the worst case of head pidgeon I've ever seen

[RADAGA]

Whatever. You got paid to defend the site, I gain nothing from trying to debunk it. It is flawed, but it is still the best one free online we can get. So I wont bother complaining anymore.

[Frop]

Whatever. You got paid to defend the site, I gain nothing from trying to debunk it. It is flawed, but it is still the best one free online we can get. So I wont bother complaining anymore.

[Frop]

Can someone please rename this thread to "BREAKING NEWS : Auto-Assault Intensity Levels Aren't Sticky.". Thanks.

[Snorri1234]

Can someone please rename this thread to "BREAKING NEWS : Auto-Assault Intensity Levels Aren't Sticky.". Thanks.

I was just going to say that.


Edit: And holy lol they did.

[e_i_pi]

Whatever. You got paid to defend the site

I did it pro bono. What part of that don't you understand - the pro or the bono?

[yeti_c]

I also changed the wordings in the inital post for ya!!

C.

[RADAGA]

Whatever. You got paid to defend the site

I did it pro bono. What part of that don't you understand - the pro or the bono?

the pro ... can you explain in detail for me, please? In no less than 300 words would be fine.

actually, do the same with the bono part, si vous plait

[Snorri1234]

Whatever. You got paid to defend the site

I did it pro bono. What part of that don't you understand - the pro or the bono?

the pro ... can you explain in detail for me, please? In no less than 300 words would be fine.

actually, do the same with the bono part, si vous plait

"Pro" is short for "professional"

And "Bono" is the leadsinger of U2. You know? That guy with the glasses.

[Bones2484]

Eipi is a professional singer?? Can I have your autograph?

[Jeff Hardy]

Why is it always the good players that complain about the dice

because the good players are normally the ones that play more games and are more likely to get a streak because of it
also, bad dice hurts them more because they lose more points

Whatever. You got paid to defend the site, I gain nothing from trying to debunk it. It is flawed, but it is still the best one free online we can get. So I wont bother complaining anymore.

nope, he just got free premium

[e_i_pi]

Eipi is a professional singer?? Can I have your autograph?

That's why Bill Gates invented copy paste. Go for it, my sigs over there ---->

[legionbuck]

I may be an old fart, but my experiences with Auto Assault leave much to be desired !!!

Since this feature is programmed to stop if you only have 3 left...why not tweak it to ONLY allow you to lose 3 at one click ??? That way, you have the same ability to CHOOSE to renew the assault, and if you don't like the losses you have suffered...either cease assaulting , or go to single click attacks. Seems like a more refined way to do things !!!




Semper Fi....and death to all terrorists !