Should people be allowed to have guns?

OwlLawyer · Post by **OwlLawyer** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:52 pm

You also have the freedom to learn proper grammar and spelling.

thephule77 · Post by **thephule77** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:54 pm

now looking at autoload's avatar, I think only people who have good eysight and are not wearing eyepatches should be allowed to have guns

Bozo · Post by **Bozo** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:57 pm

The worst statistik i have ever heard about guns ( i dont even think it's true) "You are more likly to shoot someone you care about than a criminal"

Any coments on this one would be interseting also in this argument i have heard i believe one statistic that is remotly acurate thats the in the us 30,000 people get killed by guns annually

OwlLawyer · Post by **OwlLawyer** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:00 pm

Bozo wrote:The worst statistik i have ever heard about guns ( i dont even think it's true) "You are more likly to shoot someone you care about than a criminal"

Well, first of all... it's "statistic"

Second of all, that statistic, without some explanation, is meaningless. If they mean purposely shoot someone you care about, well, not sure what to say about that, not sure if that is true.

If it means accidentally shoot someone you care about, then yeah, that would probably be true, because you are more likely to be around those you care about, so any accidental shooting would more likely involve a loved one.

Master Bush · Post by **Master Bush** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:22 pm

No, but people should have bombs!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2z-gx6C ... ed&search=

Machiavelli · Post by **Machiavelli** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:00 pm

I think the should stop allowing pistols, and other small guns to be sold, aswell as the bullets for these small guns.

Then make it illegal to have them aswell.

I dont have a problem with the big rifles or shotguns, because if someone is walking down the street with it, you are going to know it.

People would be allowed to own rifles and shotguns, so if a criminal does break into your house, you can defend your self.

Hunting would also not be a problem, because nothing there would change.

I know this is a bit idealistic but this is the best solution that I have and I think if some minor kinks were worked out, this system would be good.

Utafar · Post by **Utafar** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:03 pm

yeah except for the part where people end up having fire fights in there houses when a guy breaks in with an AK-47 instead of a handgun

RT anyone?

OwlLawyer · Post by **OwlLawyer** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:30 pm

Machiavelli wrote: if some minor kinks were worked out, this system would be good.

Yeah, because criminals would never saw off a shotgun, or obtain illegal handguns.

Rook38 · Post by **Rook38** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:34 pm

No guns. People say i'm so annoying that they will shoot me, if guns r banned i don't have to worry about this any more

foutballfreek15 · Post by **foutballfreek15** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:36 pm

No because i'll beat you w/ a bat, and guns should be legal because i hunt and i want to keep hunting.

Utafar · Post by **Utafar** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:44 pm

foutballfreek15 wrote:No because i'll beat you w/ a bat, and guns should be legal because i hunt and i want to keep hunting.

thats definatly not selfish

Rook38 · Post by **Rook38** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:48 pm

foutballfreek15 what happend to ur avatar?

Cheesemore · Post by **Cheesemore** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:53 pm

two things
1) you spelled allowed wrong
2) it says in the constitution that we are allowed fire arms, but I really don't care about this subject

foutballfreek15 · Post by **foutballfreek15** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:41 pm

I changed it to a picture of kentucky lake.

Caleb the Cruel · Post by **Caleb the Cruel** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:13 pm

I like this law they have here in Colorado called the 'Make My Day Law'
it allows for homeowners to shoot, even to death, anyone who enters their home if the homeowner feels threatened
this has decreased the rate of break-ins statewide
people here are also allowed to have conceiled weapons if they have a permit to do such
there is a 9mm in our pick-up, just in case we ever need it

P Gizzle · Post by **P Gizzle** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:13 pm

that's a pretty good law. how has the death toll been affected. is it more cuz people are more likely to have guns, or les cuz no one is trying to break into homes?

Rook38 · Post by **Rook38** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 8:16 pm

Without the "Make My Day Law", a rober can enter a home illigaly, and sue the owner for harm to his body

Utafar · Post by **Utafar** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:45 pm

Rook38 wrote:Without the "Make My Day Law", a rober can enter a home illigaly, and sue the owner for harm to his body

thats bullshit beyond which i have ever seen in my 15 years of life

Caleb the Cruel · Post by **Caleb the Cruel** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:50 pm

Utafar wrote:
Rook38 wrote:Without the "Make My Day Law", a rober can enter a home illigaly, and sue the owner for harm to his body
thats bullshit beyond which i have ever seen in my 15 years of life

that's why I'm glad I'm in colorado where they do have the make my day law

P gizzle-- i'm not sure on the exact stats on how this affected the death toll however i'm sure you find a site about this from some search engine

DIRESTRAITS · Post by **DIRESTRAITS** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:13 pm

The Constitution says we can have guns
YOur opinion doesn't matter

vtmarik · Post by **vtmarik** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:53 am

The constitution, when it was created, was worded very carefully to avoid misinterpretations in the future. However, they do happen. There really isn't any ambiguity in the second amendment:

"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

If the guns were only meant to be used by a militia, then why is the line "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" included? This amendment was made in accordance with the rules of this nation, that should the government ever fail in its ability to represent the people that it should be dismantled and replaced with a new government. Such a dismantling of a corrupt government would, inevitably, lead to war. The second amendment was put in place to ensure that the government wouldn't restrict the people's access to arms in the case of such an event.

Capt Killroy · Post by **Capt Killroy** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:30 pm

all law abiding people have the right to bear arms and shoot that motherfcker whos tring to do harm to his family

cowshrptrn · Post by **cowshrptrn** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:44 pm

DIRESTRAITS wrote:The Constitution says we can have guns
YOur opinion doesn't matter

The 2nd amendment is jsut that, an amendment jsut like prohibition (19th i think...) the whole point of them is to evolve with the times, since we no longer need them to drive indians off their land (we use lawyers and Jack Abramoff now) and a lot of people live in the city now and dont' need to shoot rabid wolves that attack their livestock.

Older people's gun deaths are most likely to be suicides. Suicides typically make up 56.5% of all gun deaths according to the Bureau Of Justice Statistics. In fact, drugs and suicides account for more than 2 out of every 3 gun deaths in the USA.

Los Angeles TImes wrote:In 1996 there were over 34,000 gun deaths in the U.S.

yeah 20,000+ deaths are def. worth the handful of robberies that were prevented. (btw, overdoses on pills etc are typically less successful as far as suicide's concerned)

OwlLawyer · Post by **OwlLawyer** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:46 pm

Cow - most of those deaths are illegal, criminals killing people, not accidental shootings....

if you outlaw guns, how will the problem be solved? It's already illegal to kill with guns, you think criminals will just turn in their guns?

jay_a2j · Post by **jay_a2j** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:09 pm

Los Angeles TImes wrote:In 1996 there were over 34,000 gun deaths in the U.S.

yeah 20,000+ deaths are def. worth the handful of robberies that were prevented. (btw, overdoses on pills etc are typically less successful as far as suicide's concerned)

Lets see, 4000 abortions a day in the US means 1,460,000 children killed each year in the US alone. Guns aren't the problem.

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