San Francisco Mafia- Aage, Safari and Kernov Win!!!

[Dlanor A. Knox]

Vote Count

Flow (1): edoc
Edocsil(2): victor, dazey


With 12 alive it takes 6 to lynch

@Mod: With 12 alive, it normally takes 7 to lynch. Are you certain this vote count is correct?

[Dlanor A. Knox]

Killing mafia is not the same as killing prisoner escapees, but I agree that he may be a threat. Fircoal believes you, and I have reason to believe Fircoal, so I'll throw a vote edoc'sil.

Kernov, I want this one dead. :S This is blatent wagon jumping.

"This person thinks you're ok, and I like this person, so you MUST be right!"

Please. You might aswell say "Edocsil isn't my scum buddy, so lets mislynch him!"

[kernov]

You want Aage ! im gona go back read though this stuff again , Aages last post is spoken his way , ive had no scum tells of him that i can remember so far.

[aage]

Killing mafia is not the same as killing prisoner escapees, but I agree that he may be a threat. Fircoal believes you, and I have reason to believe Fircoal, so I'll throw a vote edoc'sil.

Kernov, I want this one dead. :S This is blatent wagon jumping.

"This person thinks you're ok, and I like this person, so you MUST be right!"

Please. You might aswell say "Edocsil isn't my scum buddy, so lets mislynch him!"

Saying I have reason to believe Fircoal doesn't mean I think he's awesome it means i have reason to believe he is telling the truth...

If Fircoal is as honest as I believe him to be, Victor is telling the truth and Edoc is a lying bastard. Please explain WHY we would want to wait another day to kill him? He was a prisoner, that means he did something bad, otherwise he wouldn't have been locked up. It probably also means that he IS a third party player (which you intend to lynch today) since only one of the two mafia dead was a prisoner, and a secret one at that. Why do you believe Edoc'sil is part of the mafia while Victor clearly said he was a prisoner escapee?

[Dlanor A. Knox]

Nice misinterpretation Aage-scum. Scum means Prisoner mafia AND Regular mafia. If you read my posts, you would realize that.

It is unlikely that Edocsil is mafia. He is either Prisoner or town. I said this in my 2nd post before this one. YOU just refuse to READ.

[edocsil]

Killing mafia is not the same as killing prisoner escapees, but I agree that he may be a threat. Fircoal believes you, and I have reason to believe Fircoal, so I'll throw a vote edoc'sil.

So why do you believe Ficoal? He is the oldest player here and the last you should trust unless you already know his alignment.

[VioIet]

Vote Count

Flow (1): edoc
Edocsil(3): victor, dazey, aage,
Drabod (1): kernov,


With 12 alive it takes 6 to lynch

[aage]

Nice misinterpretation Aage-scum. Scum means Prisoner mafia AND Regular mafia. If you read my posts, you would realize that.

FYI, there are two dead prisoners - one that was secretly mafia and one that was secretly town. Honestly I couldn't give a crap about what your defenition of "scum" is, since generally it's "the bad guys", meaning mafia. And you still didn't bother to respond to my question, namely why we should not kill Edoc'sil tomorrow? By your theory, victor dies tonight, which is highly improbable because any doc out there will be protecting him, and this gives us the absolute proof Edoc'sil is a prisoner. This nets us a dead flavor cop that we'll be needing for the rest of the game, and possibly a dead innocent towny today while we could also have lynched Edoc'sil the Prisoner Escapee.

Please explain to me how you are not his partner in crime? You choose to believe 1 player over 3 others, while he hasn't even counterclaimed yet? Oh, please.

So why do you believe Ficoal? He is the oldest player here and the last you should trust unless you already know his alignment.

Honestly it wouldn't matter because if they both were scum this'd have been the worst scumplay in history. By tomorrow they'd both be dead. The chances of them lying are microscopic, and the only one saying they are lying is you. And you've been called out by them. Please tell me why you wouldn't be lying?

[aage]

Nice misinterpretation Aage-scum. Scum means Prisoner mafia AND Regular mafia. If you read my posts, you would realize that.

FYI, there are two dead prisoners - one that was secretly mafia and one that was secretly town. Honestly I couldn't give a crap about what your defenition of "scum" is, since generally it's "the bad guys", meaning mafia. And you still didn't bother to respond to my question, namely why we should not kill Edoc'sil today? By your theory, victor dies tonight, which is highly improbable because any doc out there will be protecting him, and this gives us the absolute proof Edoc'sil is a prisoner. This nets us a dead flavor cop that we'll be needing for the rest of the game, and possibly a dead innocent towny today while we could also have lynched Edoc'sil the Prisoner Escapee.

Your bad logic is confusing me, lol

[Dlanor A. Knox]

Nice misinterpretation Aage-scum. Scum means Prisoner mafia AND Regular mafia. If you read my posts, you would realize that.

FYI, there are two dead prisoners - one that was secretly mafia and one that was secretly town. Honestly I couldn't give a crap about what your defenition of "scum" is, since generally it's "the bad guys", meaning mafia. And you still didn't bother to respond to my question, namely why we should not kill Edoc'sil today? By your theory, victor dies tonight, which is highly improbable because any doc out there will be protecting him, and this gives us the absolute proof Edoc'sil is a prisoner. This nets us a dead flavor cop that we'll be needing for the rest of the game, and possibly a dead innocent towny today while we could also have lynched Edoc'sil the Prisoner Escapee.

Your bad logic is confusing me, lol

You're a fool.

First off, if you actually READ MY POSTS, you would realize that lynching someone outside of Victor and Edoscil today garners more information.

Secondly, if you READ MY POSTS, the answer to "why I don't think we should lynch Edocsil today" was EXPLAINED ON THE PREVIOUS PAGE IN A LONG POST. But as scum, you don't need to read that. You just try and slander the name of anyone who goes after you.

I've had just about enough of you. Vote: AAGE

Reasons why he is scum:
Opportunistic Voting of Edoc
Misrepresenting my posts to make me look scummy (only scum wants to twists words. Town wants to find true intent)
Not reading the thread, but rather skimming and using only select points to make his idiotic arguments.

Anything else needed?

[aage]

You're a fool.

First off, if you actually READ MY POSTS, you would realize that lynching someone outside of Victor and Edoscil today garners more information.

Secondly, if you READ MY POSTS, the answer to "why I don't think we should lynch Edocsil today" was EXPLAINED ON THE PREVIOUS PAGE IN A LONG POST. But as scum, you don't need to read that. You just try and slander the name of anyone who goes after you.

I've had just about enough of you. Vote: AAGE

Reasons why he is scum:
Opportunistic Voting of Edoc
Misrepresenting my posts to make me look scummy (only scum wants to twists words. Town wants to find true intent)
Not reading the thread, but rather skimming and using only select points to make his idiotic arguments.

Anything else needed?

Voting Edoc'sil gagners even more information. You'll know Victor probably wasn't lying, you'll know Fircoal probably wasn't lying, you'll know I probably wasn't lying and we'll know you've been ignoring all this all day. But no, instead of this you decide to look for some other clue that probably has nothing to do with Edoc'sil, because if it would, Edoc'sil might still be lynched, which is what you're trying to prevent

As to what else would be needed, well, you could use some actual scumtells to vote me. "He disagrees with what I say" has never been and never will be an argument.

Also, please keep the Ad Hominem to yourself... We don't really like it around here.

[Dlanor A. Knox]

Really? So saying that I have "bad logic" is a better argument/not Ad Hom?

Nice contradiction you got there.

[VioIet]

Vote Count

Flow (1): edoc
Edocsil(3): victor, dazey, aage,
Drabod (1): kernov,
Aage (1): Dlannor


With 12 alive it takes 6 to lynch

Activity is slowing down so I will set a deadline for next Friday at midnight.

Also i may need one more replacement.

[Drabod]

I agree im not sure we need to go over the Flow thing again yet.

I suggest vote drabod

I think Drabs has not contributed that much of substance yet. We did just start to apply some pressure to him on day 2 but it didnt go far enough to get much info out of him. The game also has seemed to come to a bit of a halt at the moment. So lets try this unfinished business rather than go back over old ground. just an idea.

So kernov you wanted substance, well let me try this..............

I think immortal was the wrong word for a cupid, both me ans Sens had issues with the wording of our roles and relevant powers.
Out of the whole issue of this cupid thing you coming out and bringing up just the immortal thing shows you have totally missed the point of the whole cupid battle day2.

But this could be drabods ploy.

We never did get the chance to look into Drabs role more because of the deadline in day 2. I would love to vote for you Drabs but at the moment the Daze/Victor thing is the thing that concerns me more.

You claim to be cupid after sensfan does, then you claim to be immortal however sens was lynched. Meaning that you both were lying about being immortal, but you specifically stated you were. This then could be lack of knowledge of the role, due to your fake role claim.. Maybe,

Then at the end of the post you state the daze Victor thing concerns you more..... But then you post ......

You would be better of telling us why, until you jumped on the Sensfan BW on day 2, you consistently tried to frame Victor.

To me that seems you have just contradicted yourself completely, you accuse me of the one to be framing victor but after hes role claimed and stated that hes found a prisoner..... But your still pushing your concern on Vic and daze, but simply because they didnt answer the questions.... you changed your tactics and decided to vote me. Your all over the place Kernov and not consistant.....

And for that reason VOTE KERNOV

[kernov]

Your clutching as straws the Drabs just to justify an omgus vote for me.

The reason i voted for you was to see how everyone felt about putting pressure on you to find out more, but its gone nowhere because if you been reading the posts theres more important things going on.

Unvote Drabod now ive unvoted because the discussion im watching very closely between Aage and Dlanor is bringing up some good stuff and i feel i wil be able to make vote soon.

[aage]

Really? So saying that I have "bad logic" is a better argument/not Ad Hom?

Nice contradiction you got there.

This is because you genuinely have bad logic. There are three people saying Edoc'sil has escaped from prison, Edoc'sil himself is OMGUS'ing anything that is accusing him and you STILL manage to believe we should lynch someone else? I mean, isn't the point of this game to lynch scum? Didn't you just say "scum" was "mafia AND prisoners"? So why are we not lynching Edoc'sil?

Seriously guys...

[aage]

Sooo... I've been rereading your post and just realized something, Mr. Dlanor.

Rather than lynching Edo OR Victor today, why don't we lynch a third player, and let Victor's thing resolve itself tomorrow?

If Victor really is a prisoner cop, the prisoners will want him dead. He'll die, and we'll know for SURE that edo is scum.

In this situation, we lose Victor (according to him, he's dying tonight no matter what ANYWAY, so that can't be stopped), but we will also have Edo die.

Most likely, ONE of Victor and Edo have to be scum (if not both... remember Mafia and Prisoners are different) and so if we let them both live today, we will catch 1 scum for sure tomorrow.

What this allows us to do is have a free lynch today, and a chance to lynch a DIFFERENT scum.

Do people like this idea? It gives us more chances at killing scum. ^_^

It's a great idea except for some things:
- Victor won't die if there is a doc. Since there probably is (cause I haven't ever played a game here without a cop) he won't die and your stalling tactics have no result.
- We have to lynch Edoc'sil tomorrow thus wasting a day anyway. I doubt the Zodiac will be kind enough to take this guy out for us since it gives him another unsuspected day. Scum kill, same story.
- You claim we get more chances for killing scum, however what you're doing is simply switching two day scenarios, and possibly granting Edoc'sil another Night ability if he has any. Possibly masoned/teamed up/lovers? The fact that Kernov also claimed Cupid and seems to be trying to divert the argument AWAY from the two of you, makes me suspect you two are his lovers. And in that case I can understand you're going this far to protect your fiancé. It however doesn't mean your fiancé is innocent. Far from it.
- You're very eager for Victor to die. Afraid of him?


Victor, when we have Edoc'sil lynched, would you mind checking out this dude's alignment?

[kernov]

Before i vote can aage please confirm who he thinks my lovers are? as hes mentioned in the above post, please.

[aage]

Before i vote can aage please confirm who he thinks my lovers are? as hes mentioned in the above post, please.

I suspect there is a relationship between Edoc'sil and his protector, Dlanor. This may or may not be caused by any Cupid interferance, and frankly it doesn't matter. If they're lovers, I don't think we'll miss them and if they're not, they probably are in liege, and we should kill them both.

[kernov]

I am now convinced the chosen lovers by cupid are not told who they are. This leads me back to Daze and Victor Who said they Where chosen by Sens. Also Sens did turn on one of them, i think he new but didnt want to say as there story was helping him.

We need to check one of them out Vote Victor Fos daze

[Dlanor A. Knox]

Before i vote can aage please confirm who he thinks my lovers are? as hes mentioned in the above post, please.

I suspect there is a relationship between Edoc'sil and his protector, Dlanor. This may or may not be caused by any Cupid interferance, and frankly it doesn't matter. If they're lovers, I don't think we'll miss them and if they're not, they probably are in liege, and we should kill them both.

In other words, I'm threatened by Dlanor's ability to critical think and not follow the unconfirmed cop blindly, and I want Dlanor dead"

Yeahhhhhhhh SCUM HERE.

[Dlanor A. Knox]

I am now convinced the chosen lovers by cupid are not told who they are. This leads me back to Daze and Victor Who said they Where chosen by Sens. Also Sens did turn on one of them, i think he new but didnt want to say as there story was helping him.

We need to check one of them out Vote Victor Fos daze

The vote on Victor is useless. Again, neither of these two should be lynched today.

However, if you have a case on Daze, I'd like to hear it.

[kernov]

Daze claimed to be one of Sensfans chosen lovers, with Victor. I have read everything my chosen lovers have posted in this entire game and i have come to the conclusion they dont know who they are. This being the case why would Daze and vic know that Sens picked them. It would be easier if i posted my lovers but its something im not willing to do.

I see its agreed Vic wont die so unvote, vote daze

[aage]

Before i vote can aage please confirm who he thinks my lovers are? as hes mentioned in the above post, please.

I suspect there is a relationship between Edoc'sil and his protector, Dlanor. This may or may not be caused by any Cupid interferance, and frankly it doesn't matter. If they're lovers, I don't think we'll miss them and if they're not, they probably are in liege, and we should kill them both.

In other words, I'm threatened by Dlanor's ability to critical think and not follow the unconfirmed cop blindly, and I want Dlanor dead"

Yeahhhhhhhh SCUM HERE.

You still haven't managed to give a single reply to my theory, except "it sucks". Also, this "unconfirmed cop" has been confirmed by 2 others. I take it you don't genuinely believe Victor, Fircoal and I are the remaining mafia?
No, but seriously. You're assuming high and low that we should all read your posts because they're the best in the world or something, and then when someone else posts something he's just some idiot? Possibly because he figured out you're working together with Edoc'sil and you're trying to cover that up by a huge OMGUS? I mean, seriously, this is even more monumental bad play than Safariguy's bomb in the RDR game. And what's worse, the rest of the players aren't doing a thing.

Also Kernov, I'm pretty sure the lovers know who they are. The point, however, is that you should have never claimed to be Cupid in the first place... There's nothing to gain for the lovers to come out so I suppose naturally they don't come out...

[kernov]

I claimed as i thought Sensfan was telling porkies about being another cupid , just my luck there where 2 in the game. Also just my luck ive prob picked scum as at least one of my lovers lol. Let me think what i do about it