San Francisco Mafia- Aage, Safari and Kernov Win!!!

[edocsil]

Let me re-state that.

I have no intention in playing a game that is un-winable from DAY 0.

Ya, I don't really see how you were supposed to win. The two others I can only assume had to sell you out to win or at least had a win condition that conflicted with yours. I could have stayed with you guys, but it is pretty simple math that I am far safer after claiming and then siding with the town. Would have been better if the traitors only knew each other, that would be a hilarious scenario. Perhaps we should have been only able to talk to our leaders through anonymous mod PMs, because this was a bit broken.

[Flow520]

Edoc, I dont see the value in town protecting you over victor-/ if you dont give up that third name like aage suggests...
I imagine Dlanor also knows the identity of the last prisoner... If Dlanor will out the last prisoner, I say we lynch Edoc and let Dlanor SK the last prisoner during the night.

Right now I think Dlanor is more dangerous, so I'm going to Unvote, Vote Dlanor.

[aage]

Edoc, I dont see the value in town protecting you over victor-/ if you dont give up that third name like aage suggests...
I imagine Dlanor also knows the identity of the last prisoner... If Dlanor will out the last prisoner, I say we lynch Edoc and let Dlanor SK the last prisoner during the night.

Sorry but this is just stupid why would you trust a prisoner mafia to do what we want?

[Flow520]

Edoc, I dont see the value in town protecting you over victor-/ if you dont give up that third name like aage suggests...
I imagine Dlanor also knows the identity of the last prisoner... If Dlanor will out the last prisoner, I say we lynch Edoc and let Dlanor SK the last prisoner during the night.

Sorry but this is just stupid why would you trust a prisoner mafia to do what we want?

I was thinking because of the frustration Dlanor is expressing with the unfairness of the role that Dlanor might be willing to out the last prisoner and have fun killing Edoc during the night. Though, confirming my doubt of this actually occurring, I did state the obvious of Dlanor being more dangerous and placed my vote accordingly... : p

[edocsil]

Edoc, I dont see the value in town protecting you over victor-/ if you dont give up that third name like aage suggests...
I imagine Dlanor also knows the identity of the last prisoner... If Dlanor will out the last prisoner, I say we lynch Edoc and let Dlanor SK the last prisoner during the night.

Sorry but this is just stupid why would you trust a prisoner mafia to do what we want?

Yes, well / (replaced victor) has ~ a 1 in 10 chance of correctly identifying the scum. So long as the doc protects me from the prisoners kill (the vice head inherits it) I will happily give you his name tomorrow. This is also why I won't give you his name until tomorrow, as there would be no point in the doc protecting me if I have no use, and I would kind of like to live.

[kernov]

Nice posts everyone. Some gritty information there from Edoc has got us chatting. And im not going to put my vote back on him.

It does seem obvious that we have to take the bigger threat out first, but saying that i think Edocs claim and information is more than him trying to avoid a lynch. I think it could quite easily lead to a game winning move for Edoc! We need to be more than careful.
Vote Dlanor

[edocsil]

Nice posts everyone. Some gritty information there from Edoc has got us chatting. And im not going to put my vote back on him.

It does seem obvious that we have to take the bigger threat out first, but saying that i think Edocs claim and information is more than him trying to avoid a lynch. I think it could quite easily lead to a game winning move for Edoc! We need to be more than careful.
Vote Dlanor

If I were an usurper this would be quite the play, the only thing is it will become quite obvious that I do not have a recurring NK and is the only thing you really need to worry about from the mafia. Do not trust me, it is healthier for you, but do not doubt that I need the scum dead just as much as the town does.

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well just like that my role is useless.... the claim is implausible, but we will get to that after the convict is dealt with, as you say edoc "usurper" would make for quite a brilliant move, a prisoner who needs the "top dog" killed to win, he makes us lynch his leader, then at night knowing the doc isn't protecting me, he kills the investigator, he refuses to talk leaving town to lynch him the following day and the final convict a 1/8 chance of pulling off a lone killer win for scum....
but we'll see
and by the way, with you and Dlanor confirmed, my chances of finding the scum are actually one in seven, vic has already eliminated daze and flow on the list of potential escapees on nights 0 and 1 respectively, leaving;
1. Fircoal
2. JudahsLion
3. Aage

7. Gabriel13
8. kernov
9. Drabod


12. mass miracle
just thought town should know, in case they need to survive the situation above.

I will say your info is helpful though, I'd like to hear a bit more before the lynch, more info is always beneficial.
1. Can you tell me about the role (not the person) of the final escapee?
2. can you tell us about the kills for the last two nights? (who made them, who killed who)
3. can you tell us about any other actions conducted by your faction?

[edocsil]

I will say your info is helpful though, I'd like to hear a bit more before the lynch, more info is always beneficial.
1. Can you tell me about the role (not the person) of the final escapee?
Traditional backup. Vanilla till the role it supports dies, and them assumes all powers. In this case a NK.
2. Can you tell us about the kills for the last two nights? (who made them, who killed who)
N1, the action was blocked, bulletproofed, or perhaps LSU didn't submit the action, didn't hear from him IIRC
N2, Karelpietertje was the kill Dlanor submitted.
3. can you tell us about any other actions conducted by your faction?

There isn't anything else to say about what we did, there were the two actual traitors, and they had no abilities to my knowledge, only their own knowledge. LSU/Dlanor had a NK every night the Vice Head Prisoner had no action, and I have my single unused NK.

[Dlanor A. Knox]

I will say your info is helpful though, I'd like to hear a bit more before the lynch, more info is always beneficial.
1. Can you tell me about the role (not the person) of the final escapee?
Traditional backup. Vanilla till the role it supports dies, and them assumes all powers. In this case a NK.
2. Can you tell us about the kills for the last two nights? (who made them, who killed who)
N1, the action was blocked, bulletproofed, or perhaps LSU didn't submit the action, didn't hear from him IIRC
N2, Karelpietertje was the kill Dlanor submitted.
3. can you tell us about any other actions conducted by your faction?

There isn't anything else to say about what we did, there were the two actual traitors, and they had no abilities to my knowledge, only their own knowledge. LSU/Dlanor had a NK every night the Vice Head Prisoner had no action, and I have my single unused NK.

BAKA.

BAKA BAKA BAKA.

[/]

There isn't anything else to say about what we did, there were the two actual traitors, and they had no abilities to my knowledge, only their own knowledge. LSU/Dlanor had a NK every night the Vice Head Prisoner had no action, and I have my single unused NK.

please answer the first part of my question, Which players has the prison escapee faction targeted to kill on both nights? because this isn't adding up, so far we know of a serial killer, a mafia godfather and your faction, but we have a potential of four night kills each night, since I too was targeted for a kill last night.

[Dlanor A. Knox]

There isn't anything else to say about what we did, there were the two actual traitors, and they had no abilities to my knowledge, only their own knowledge. LSU/Dlanor had a NK every night the Vice Head Prisoner had no action, and I have my single unused NK.

please answer the first part of my question, Which players has the prison escapee faction targeted to kill on both nights? because this isn't adding up, so far we know of a serial killer, a mafia godfather and your faction, but we have a potential of four night kills each night, since I too was targeted for a kill last night.

If it doesn't add up, it's because he's lying.

Clearly he has hidden powers. I have 1 factional NK.

He must be able to kill multiple people without my knowledge.

[Mass Miracle]

I am not buying what Edoc is selling, it is a last desperate attempt to save himself. I think we are better off with him gone.

[edocsil]

I will say your info is helpful though, I'd like to hear a bit more before the lynch, more info is always beneficial.
1. Can you tell me about the role (not the person) of the final escapee?
Traditional backup. Vanilla till the role it supports dies, and them assumes all powers. In this case a NK.
2. Can you tell us about the kills for the last two nights? (who made them, who killed who)
N1, the action was blocked, bulletproofed, or perhaps LSU didn't submit the action, didn't hear from him IIRC
N2, Karelpietertje was the kill Dlanor submitted.
3. can you tell us about any other actions conducted by your faction?

There isn't anything else to say about what we did, there were the two actual traitors, and they had no abilities to my knowledge, only their own knowledge. LSU/Dlanor had a NK every night the Vice Head Prisoner had no action, and I have my single unused NK.

Sorry guess that wasn't to visible. Look at your quote, I answered in there. I will copy it out.

1. Can you tell me about the role (not the person) of the final escapee?
Traditional backup. Vanilla till the role it supports dies, and them assumes all powers. In this case a NK.
2. Can you tell us about the kills for the last two nights? (who made them, who killed who)
N1, the action was blocked, bulletproofed, or perhaps LSU didn't submit the action, didn't hear from him IIRC
N2, Karelpietertje was the kill Dlanor submitted.
3. can you tell us about any other actions conducted by your faction?[/quote]
There isn't anything else to say about what we did, there were the two actual traitors, and they had no abilities to my knowledge, only their own knowledge. LSU/Dlanor had a NK every night the Vice Head Prisoner had no action, and I have my single unused NK.

[edocsil]

I will say your info is helpful though, I'd like to hear a bit more before the lynch, more info is always beneficial.
1. Can you tell me about the role (not the person) of the final escapee?
Traditional backup. Vanilla till the role it supports dies, and them assumes all powers. In this case a NK.
2. Can you tell us about the kills for the last two nights? (who made them, who killed who)
N1, the action was blocked, bulletproofed, or perhaps LSU didn't submit the action, didn't hear from him IIRC
N2, Karelpietertje was the kill Dlanor submitted.
3. can you tell us about any other actions conducted by your faction?

There isn't anything else to say about what we did, there were the two actual traitors, and they had no abilities to my knowledge, only their own knowledge. LSU/Dlanor had a NK every night the Vice Head Prisoner had no action, and I have my single unused NK.

BAKA.

BAKA BAKA BAKA.

If you are going to call names mind doing it in English, not Japanese?

I am not buying what Edoc is selling, it is a last desperate attempt to save himself. I think we are better off with him gone.

Mass, whatever happens to me in a few days is up in the air, I may be lynched once the last of the prisoners are killed, but for now do you mind killing the leader of the prisoners, the one with the recurring NK?

[Dlanor A. Knox]

I will say your info is helpful though, I'd like to hear a bit more before the lynch, more info is always beneficial.
1. Can you tell me about the role (not the person) of the final escapee?
Traditional backup. Vanilla till the role it supports dies, and them assumes all powers. In this case a NK.
2. Can you tell us about the kills for the last two nights? (who made them, who killed who)
N1, the action was blocked, bulletproofed, or perhaps LSU didn't submit the action, didn't hear from him IIRC
N2, Karelpietertje was the kill Dlanor submitted.
3. can you tell us about any other actions conducted by your faction?

There isn't anything else to say about what we did, there were the two actual traitors, and they had no abilities to my knowledge, only their own knowledge. LSU/Dlanor had a NK every night the Vice Head Prisoner had no action, and I have my single unused NK.

BAKA.

BAKA BAKA BAKA.

If you are going to call names mind doing it in English, not Japanese?

I am not buying what Edoc is selling, it is a last desperate attempt to save himself. I think we are better off with him gone.

Mass, whatever happens to me in a few days is up in the air, I may be lynched once the last of the prisoners are killed, but for now do you mind killing the leader of the prisoners, the one with the recurring NK?

You mean, kill the person with 1 NK, rather than the one with MULTIPLE NK's? I am positive you have more than 1 kill.

To Town: My NK can be controllled. If you lynch Edoc today, who has MULTIPLE kills, I will use my NK on a target that town agrees upon.

[edocsil]

Pardon the triple post, but there was much that needed to be said.

There isn't anything else to say about what we did, there were the two actual traitors, and they had no abilities to my knowledge, only their own knowledge. LSU/Dlanor had a NK every night the Vice Head Prisoner had no action, and I have my single unused NK.

please answer the first part of my question, Which players has the prison escapee faction targeted to kill on both nights? because this isn't adding up, so far we know of a serial killer, a mafia godfather and your faction, but we have a potential of four night kills each night, since I too was targeted for a kill last night.

If it doesn't add up, it's because he's lying.

Clearly he has hidden powers. I have 1 factional NK.

He must be able to kill multiple people without my knowledge.

To anyone who believes this do the math. Scum have a kill, Zodiac has a kill, Prisoners have a kill. If I had a recurring kill how many would be dead D3? About 8 or 9 depending on how many were blocked or not. This even assumes that there were no Vig kills in the night, of which I suspect TG was one.

[edocsil]

You mean, kill the person with 1 NK, rather than the one with MULTIPLE NK's? I am positive you have more than 1 kill.

To Town: My NK can be controllled. If you lynch Edoc today, who has MULTIPLE kills, I will use my NK on a target that town agrees upon.

Ooh, now I have multiple NKs per night? And they are recurring? Awesome. Am a now bulletproof too? Daykills perhaps? She has already admitted to being the Head Prisoner, you can lynch her.

[Dlanor A. Knox]

You mean, kill the person with 1 NK, rather than the one with MULTIPLE NK's? I am positive you have more than 1 kill.

To Town: My NK can be controllled. If you lynch Edoc today, who has MULTIPLE kills, I will use my NK on a target that town agrees upon.

Ooh, now I have multiple NKs per night? And they are recurring? Awesome. Am a now bulletproof too? Daykills perhaps? She has already admitted to being the Head Prisoner, you can lynch her.

You're scrambling now.

This player is more of a threat to town.

[edocsil]

You mean, kill the person with 1 NK, rather than the one with MULTIPLE NK's? I am positive you have more than 1 kill.

To Town: My NK can be controllled. If you lynch Edoc today, who has MULTIPLE kills, I will use my NK on a target that town agrees upon.

Ooh, now I have multiple NKs per night? And they are recurring? Awesome. Am a now bulletproof too? Daykills perhaps? She has already admitted to being the Head Prisoner, you can lynch her.

You're scrambling now.

This player is more of a threat to town.

I don't get it, this isn't a winning move for you. Even if you manage to get me lynched I will just sell out your vice and you will both die. Revenge works I guess, if you can't have it the one who betrayed you shouldn't be able to. I might scramble a little bit if you had even the slightest shred of of evidence that I had multiple NKs in a single night, but you do not, nor have I ever run into a role that can do that here besides an arsonist, and that is a loophole in as of itself.

[Dlanor A. Knox]

You mean, kill the person with 1 NK, rather than the one with MULTIPLE NK's? I am positive you have more than 1 kill.

To Town: My NK can be controllled. If you lynch Edoc today, who has MULTIPLE kills, I will use my NK on a target that town agrees upon.

Ooh, now I have multiple NKs per night? And they are recurring? Awesome. Am a now bulletproof too? Daykills perhaps? She has already admitted to being the Head Prisoner, you can lynch her.

You're scrambling now.

This player is more of a threat to town.

I don't get it, this isn't a winning move for you. Even if you manage to get me lynched I will just sell out your vice and you will both die. Revenge works I guess, if you can't have it the one who betrayed you shouldn't be able to. I might scramble a little bit if you had even the slightest shred of of evidence that I had multiple NKs in a single night, but you do not, nor have I ever run into a role that can do that here besides an arsonist, and that is a loophole in as of itself.

Really? You have claimed a factional NK of your own.

What if you also are a JOAT? You could have a JOAT kill, and your factional kill. 2 kills. Simple.

[dazerazer]

@Mod: Can I trade in all my abilities at night for just ONE day kill? PLEASE?

AHAHAHAHAHA!!! ROFLMAO!!!


Ya fool! Ya just went and let everyone know you got night actions. Before all the info on you came out.

Besides the mod loves me. Smooches Vio.

I am pretty upset at the prospect of you quittin and insultin Vio. She's the best mod eva!! Aint nobody's fault if you played it wrong.

I still don't trust edoc. Even if he a mob traitor, his motives aint town. He gotta NK the godfather to win. Dont mean he wanna help town. He just wanna win.
If all the mobs lynched, and then the godfather NK, and just town and edoc left, town lose, edoc wins. Ain't that right?

However, dlannor just gotta go. You don't mess with Vio.

Unvote

Vote Dlannor.

[VioIet]

Vote Count

Edocsil (2): mass, judahs,
Dazey (1): Dlanor,
Judah (1): aage,
Dlannor (4): edoc, flow, kernov, Dazey

With 12 alive it takes 6 to lynch

Still seeking a replacement for Fircoal, unless he miraculously responds.

[aage]

Ya fool! Ya just went and let everyone know you got night actions. Before all the info on you came out.

In that case that apparently didn't matter...


Anyway, we need 2 more votes on Dlanor to kill him. WHAT IS STOPPING YOU GUYS?

1. he admitted to being scum
2. he admitted to having nightkill(s)
3. Edoc says he's the guy that sends in the kill, which makes sense because LSU was inactive during N1.

Seriously, do you guys want more kills during the night?

As to why Dlannor is pulling an all-out war with Edoc'sil, I think it's a game of whoever dies first

[Drabod]

Vote Dianor simple reason she has kills, and wants town to die......