Final Fantasy VII Mafia - Shinra Corporation and Elena win

[ghostly447]

okay, may I request what you got from the investigation on zimmah?

[jgordon1111]

Ok SW I am slow why is Zimmah scum? A couple of you were right about WW before so if you can let me see what i have missed I would appreciate it.

[chapcrap]

Ok SW I am slow why is Zimmah scum? A couple of you were right about WW before so if you can let me see what i have missed I would appreciate it.

strike is a JOAT. He has one investigation. He obviously investigated zimmah last night and zimmah came up scum.

ghostly, that was very astute for a newer player to realize the whole role block thing about the kills last night. And he's right, it would be good to know, but if we already have a scum today (zimmah), it might be best to stay a little quiet for today and reveal info tomorrow, so you don't get killed for your info.

[ghostly447]

Well I cant role block so I dont have any info. And I didnt realize that SW had investigated Zimmah, so I started off by posting what I immediately thought. lol. And I am already willing to listen to what SW has to say about Zimmah, I thought his behavior was fishy on Day 2 XD.

[Dukasaur]

would that be ghostly447

Why do you say that?

was just a question to drunk i saw this thought it was what he was on about

Zimmah's misunderstanding caused a great deal of confusion, but I guess I understand it on his part. I think the biggest tell to come out of that was ghostly's play. He immediately jumped behind zimmah, but then made a few contradicting posts which were just...off. Not to mention he's from the US, and should have had no trouble understanding what "roll call" means. After he managed to back out of that, he immediately threw an FOS on Doom and newguy for simply stating that he was acting fishy (sort of a mini-OMGUS). Then he disappeared for 11 days, popped in to wish happy holidays, and hasn't been heard from since.

Yeah, this was what I was thinking about, although I was working from memory and didn't have time to go back and check it. Now that I've had some time and actually went and re-read the posts of Dec. 19th and 20th, it doesn't seem nearly as strong as I imagined it.

I withdraw the (implied) accusation.

[DoomYoshi]

It is pretty safe to say that if zinmah is mafia, jgordon is mafia too.

At this point, it would seem that Barrett is indeed over eager. There have been 2 kills, each on fairly quiet players. If I was forced to kill, I would either pick a scum target or an inactive.

Did anyone come to any conclusions regarding who wanted new guy dead?

[drunkmonkey]

It is pretty safe to say that if zinmah is mafia, jgordon is mafia too.

I had my suspicions about jgordon yesterday, as he was acting the same in regard to wildwilliam. I'm pretty sure strike is telling the truth here, but as yesterday, I'd rather use the day to discuss all we have rather than speedlynch.

[ghostly447]

I am willing to look more into Zimmah and Jgorden if there is a reasonable amount of people also wanting to.


And DoomYoshi, I believe the death of New guy was just because he wasnt that active so they didnt think anyone would make a huge fuss as to who wanted him dead. New guy wasnt active enough, in my opinion, to get anyone to want him dead for any specific reason.

But as always, if we find something on anyone that may have a hint of it, then I will happily delve into it.

[DoomYoshi]

Well, that was all I wanted to talk about today.

I can continue discussing anything that comes up, but there is no reason we can't start accumulating votes.

Vote zinmah

Barrett, you over eager maniac you: if zinmah flips scum, kill jgordon tonight.

[strike wolf]

Remind me why Jgordeon was connected with Zimmah specifically?

[chapcrap]

Remind me why Jgordeon was connected with Zimmah specifically?

This. I don't really understand the connection either.

[DoomYoshi]

Remind me why Jgordeon was connected with Zimmah specifically?

They reacted the same way to the case against William. Jgordon simply hid his reaction behind a veneer of language barrier and noobishness.

[drunkmonkey]

Remind me why Jgordeon was connected with Zimmah specifically?

They reacted the same way to the case against William. Jgordon simply hid his reaction behind a veneer of language barrier and noobishness.

I felt the same way. It doesn't convict jgordon in my mind, but it attracted my suspicion.

[chapcrap]

Remind me why Jgordeon was connected with Zimmah specifically?

They reacted the same way to the case against William. Jgordon simply hid his reaction behind a veneer of language barrier and noobishness.

That kinda makes sense, but it seems like he's been doing that about everything the whole game too. Maybe there is a connection between he and zimmah though.

[dazza2008]

I don't really see the connection with Zimmah and jgordo either but there could be. Just seems how he has acted throughout the game. Seemed to me like he did not understand why strike knew he was scum. I thought he was more unsure of the role than anything.

I agree we should keep the discussion going but I will vote Zimmah just now.

[jgordon1111]

Asking questions will get you lynched? I am talking about me not Zimmah, I just want evidence before someone is lynched,or know the specific's of why we are lynching someone. I dont think you will see one instance were I defended WW, As a matter of fact I wanted more evidence rather than go off on some other tangent about another player and draw the investigation from WW. The only thing I could go off of with WW other than his actions was the previous game I was In with him,where he acted the exact same way,Where in that one both of us were town. Doom you tried this role fishing crap with me last time and then claimed it was a misunderstanding, I would appreciate it if you didnt do it again. I will say you are good and if you arent scum your good at trying to find them, but you are at the wrong tree again with me,lets drop it at that for now. I dont want killed if you are right about Zimmah, I havent backed anyone only asked the questions I myself needed answered before a vote.

[dazza2008]

Asking questions will get you lynched? I am talking about me not Zimmah, I just want evidence before someone is lynched,or know the specific's of why we are lynching someone. I dont think you will see one instance were I defended WW, As a matter of fact I wanted more evidence rather than go off on some other tangent about another player and draw the investigation from WW. The only thing I could go off of with WW other than his actions was the previous game I was In with him,where he acted the exact same way,Where in that one both of us were town. Doom you tried this role fishing crap with me last time and then claimed it was a misunderstanding, I would appreciate it if you didnt do it again. I will say you are good and if you arent scum your good at trying to find them, but you are at the wrong tree again with me,lets drop it at that for now. I dont want killed if you are right about Zimmah, I havent backed anyone only asked the questions I myself needed answered before a vote.

OK. So what questions? Have they been answere well enough yet. If not ask again and I or someone else will answer it.

[Djfireside]

I think the inital case thus far against Zimmah proves to be a good one. I am voting to at least see if it moves to get a discussion out of them and at this point seems good. Will have to go back as others will to see the events wrapped around WW, although he played it off well enough to have some townies follow him im sure the scums we playing along as well so there should be some good points to go for

As for Barrett, I think they are just being trigger happy on lesser active people to see if they can catch a submariner and just using their power. If you have the bullets, mine as well fire them.

Vote Zimmah

[DoomYoshi]

. If you have the bullets, mine as well fire them.

How could you possibly say this after 2 townies just died from a stray bullet? That is so wrong, at so many levels.

[strike wolf]

I'd say if you don't have to use the kill tonight don't use it. The JGordon case is interesting but not conclusive. I'd at least be more interested in a claim before killing him and if it depends on Zimmah being scum than the claim would either be premature today or no chance for him to get off the claim before night.

[DoomYoshi]

Asking questions will get you lynched? I am talking about me not Zimmah, I just want evidence before someone is lynched,or know the specific's of why we are lynching someone. I dont think you will see one instance were I defended WW, As a matter of fact I wanted more evidence rather than go off on some other tangent about another player and draw the investigation from WW. The only thing I could go off of with WW other than his actions was the previous game I was In with him,where he acted the exact same way,Where in that one both of us were town. Doom you tried this role fishing crap with me last time and then claimed it was a misunderstanding, I would appreciate it if you didnt do it again. I will say you are good and if you arent scum your good at trying to find them, but you are at the wrong tree again with me,lets drop it at that for now. I dont want killed if you are right about Zimmah, I havent backed anyone only asked the questions I myself needed answered before a vote.

I have never role fished you, nor am I now. I don't want you to claim, I want you to be Gatling Gunned or lynched. The fake claims are strong enough that there is no point asking for a claim.

[strike wolf]

Asking questions will get you lynched? I am talking about me not Zimmah, I just want evidence before someone is lynched,or know the specific's of why we are lynching someone. I dont think you will see one instance were I defended WW, As a matter of fact I wanted more evidence rather than go off on some other tangent about another player and draw the investigation from WW. The only thing I could go off of with WW other than his actions was the previous game I was In with him,where he acted the exact same way,Where in that one both of us were town. Doom you tried this role fishing crap with me last time and then claimed it was a misunderstanding, I would appreciate it if you didnt do it again. I will say you are good and if you arent scum your good at trying to find them, but you are at the wrong tree again with me,lets drop it at that for now. I dont want killed if you are right about Zimmah, I havent backed anyone only asked the questions I myself needed answered before a vote.

I have never role fished you, nor am I now. I don't want you to claim, I want you to be Gatling Gunned or lynched. The fake claims are strong enough that there is no point asking for a claim.

Going on that we have one fake claim and considering that they claimed a role that was already in the game. I don't think we can say that the fake claims are as strong as you consider them to be. I would only suggest that he be killed IF the vig is overeager.

[jgordon1111]

LOL thanks dazza, but chap answered the last one I had for SW, that he is joat and investigated Zimmah, Doom then it was a misunderstanding in the first game and this one I thought you were trying to get me to claim. Sw's role seems legit. And if zimmah turns out to be scum and I get killed in the night as you for some reason feverently desire, you have my congrats on making the town weaker by at least one more town possibly 2,beings 2 died last night. Even though town won last time I seem to remember your hand in town lynchings, the best you can do is let SW lead the investigations,and let him watch me next go around to see if I am scum or not.

[DoomYoshi]

LOL thanks dazza, but chap answered the last one I had for SW, that he is joat and investigated Zimmah, Doom then it was a misunderstanding in the first game and this one I thought you were trying to get me to claim. Sw's role seems legit. And if zimmah turns out to be scum and I get killed in the night as you for some reason feverently desire, you have my congrats on making the town weaker by at least one more town possibly 2,beings 2 died last night. Even though town won last time I seem to remember your hand in town lynchings, the best you can do is let SW lead the investigations,and let him watch me next go around to see if I am scum or not.

Not a valid option, as he has already used his investigation.

[strike wolf]

LOL thanks dazza, but chap answered the last one I had for SW, that he is joat and investigated Zimmah, Doom then it was a misunderstanding in the first game and this one I thought you were trying to get me to claim. Sw's role seems legit. And if zimmah turns out to be scum and I get killed in the night as you for some reason feverently desire, you have my congrats on making the town weaker by at least one more town possibly 2,beings 2 died last night. Even though town won last time I seem to remember your hand in town lynchings, the best you can do is let SW lead the investigations,and let him watch me next go around to see if I am scum or not.

Not a valid option, as he has already used his investigation.

Yes, I only have a roleblock and a protection left...out of the two. I don't plan on using my protection until later and I'm still looking for a good role block target.